Langhans_innen wrote on 20.02.2025 at 23:57: This weekend it's time for "Advanced Bets" ...actually just wanted to look for promotions and then came across this complex material, which I now know is offered in a few betting shops. https://spinbetter1g.com/de/bonus/rules/advance-bet
I did a bit of cross-reading because I wanted to understand it. I'm not sure if it's quite right yet However, it is explicitly stated that this new form of betting does not offer any disadvantages for the bettor, only additional chances of winning. Roughly speaking, you place a bet before the game that has not yet been settled and therefore represents an additional value provided by the bookmaker in order to bet live on the same game. If both things are correct, it gets really expensive for the bookmaker, if both are wrong, it gets expensive for the player, because real money and imaginary money are due and if real money (prematch) is wrong and the "imaginary loan" (live) is correct, you get it as a gift and receive their net profit without having bet anything for it. If anyone has ever used this, I'd be interested to hear their experience report, although I don't think it's anything for me However, it could be interesting for people who like to bet live anyway, although an additional prematch bet is a basic requirement for using it at all.
Reads a bit like the bookmaker giving you a loan There must be something wrong.
So I still understand it a little differently when I look at the examples:
Both bets lose:
The bet with real money is lost as normal, the bets placed with advancebet credit are void, so no financial obligation from it.
The bet with real money loses, the advancebet wins:
Own bet lost as normal, the advancebet won is canceled.
Real money bet wins, advancebet bet loses:
Win of the real money bet is paid out, but the bet for the Advancebet is deducted from the win.
There is no example of both bets winning.
But the other examples and explanations suggest that everything is paid out minus the Advancebet stakes. (potential wins are used to cover the Advancebet bets)
So somehow like this...
Thank you Stromi for voluntarily taking on this difficult topic. I was secretly counting on you and Butterbrezel Of course, I'm all the more pleased that Slotliebe and Andre have also joined in. Incidentally, I didn't get my (half) knowledge of the definition from the link above, because I would only have been able to do that under the most difficult circumstances, as the topic in the Spinbetter example didn't really make sense to me. However, I couldn't post the source here because of third-party advertising. But I can send you the explanation another way as soon as I find it again. I wasn't able to do that in a hurry. So please be patient
Reads a bit like the bookie giving you a loan There must be something fishy going on.
At no time is it the case that your account could go into the red or something. Either the bets given as "credit" are canceled or the bets are settled with the win from the qualifying bet...
So if you have no more money to Deposit or can't make it to the nearest gas station to buy a psc, but you really want to place a bet, you can use this. Otherwise, I think you could simply deposit money without any disadvantage... 😄
@langhans :
What you have just sent me refers to another bookie. The description on the aff page is confusing at best...
Suggests that if your own bet loses and the Advancebet wins, the bookie will pay out the Advancebet bets (without the win).
I can't check whether this is actually the case with the bookie, I think I would need vpn? If it is, it would of course be much better than the offer from spinbetter...
I think the spinbetter examples are actually quite well explained.
Basically, you don't get anything for free, you just don't have to deposit and you pay for the "free bets" with your potential win from the qualifying bets.
If the win cannot cover these, because the bet is lost, canceled or something else, the bets with the "free bets" are also canceled.
Maybe the leverage bets will come soon. 😄And if you lose and don't settle your betting account within 3 days, Moscow Debt collection is just around the corner 😂
Stromberg wrote on 21.02.2025 at 10:29: Maybe the leverage bets will come soon. 😄And if you lose and don't settle your betting account within 3 days, Moscow Debt collection will be at the door 😂
They will no longer have access to Germany from Monday 😂
So today's top match in the best second division in the universe and the third-placed team gets odds of over 5 against the second-placed team. That is truly out of this world and it seems that the bookies know more again. I'll take DC, DNB and away win Lautern anyway
Stromberg wrote on February 21st, 2025 at 11:05 am:
I have to ask again, what big chance do you mean?
In the night from Wednesday to Thursday where all games were correct
Boston River win, Once Caldas win, Club America both score, Cruz Azul win, Inter Miami win
Again, all the favorites came easily!
Boah I want to sleep and then something like this
Parents are always complaining that I should sleep. But what can you do, everything is often right at night
If I post bills here, please don't bet 10 euros, that's too much for such big combos. Sure I sometimes hit some, but please only bet 3 euros . that's enough . Please
The last two bills I posted here were garbage.
Olli_Eule wrote on 02/21/2025 12:08 PM:
In the night from Wednesday to Thursday where all games were correct
Boston River win, Once Caldas win, Club America both score, Cruz Azul win, Inter Miami win
Again, all the favorites came easily!
Boah I want to sleep and then something like this
Parents are always complaining that I should sleep. But what can you do, everything is often right at night
If I post bills here, please don't bet 10 euros, that's too much for such big combos. Sure I sometimes hit some, but please only bet 3 euros . that's enough . Please
The last two bills I posted here were garbage.
Yes, you don't post anything like that beforehand, so nobody can hand in these bills. Sounds strange, but it's true
Olli_Eule wrote on 02/21/2025 12:08 PM:
In the night from Wednesday to Thursday where all games were correct
Boston River win, Once Caldas win, Club America both score, Cruz Azul win, Inter Miami win
Again, all the favorites came easily!
Boah I want to sleep and then something like this
Parents are always complaining that I should sleep. But what can you do, everything is often right at night
If I post bills here, please don't bet 10 euros, that's too much for such big combos. Sure I sometimes hit some, but please only bet 3 euros . that's enough . Please
The last two bills I posted here were garbage.
Stromberg wrote on 02/21/2025 10:24 AM:
At no point is it the case that your account could go into the red or anything like that. Either the bets given as "credit" are canceled or the bets are settled with the win from the qualifying bet...
So if you have no more money to Deposit or can't make it to the nearest gas station to buy a psc, but you really want to place a bet, you can use this. Otherwise, I think you could simply deposit money without any disadvantage... 😄
@langhans :
What you have just sent me refers to another bookie. The description on the aff page is confusing at best...
Suggests that if your own bet loses and the Advancebet wins, the bookie will pay out the Advancebet bets (without the win).
I can't check whether this is actually the case with the bookie, I think I would need vpn? If it is, it would of course be much better than the offer from spinbetter...
I think the spinbetter examples are actually quite well explained.
Basically, you don't get anything for free, you just don't have to deposit and you pay for the "free bets" with your potential win from the qualifying bets.
If the win cannot cover these, because the bet is lost, canceled or something else, the bets with the "free bets" are also canceled.
For me it's the other way round...finds it confusing with Spinbetter and at least halfway comprehensible with the other one. I think the same thing is meant with both and neither offer is better or worse. In any case, I don't see myself as an "Advanced-Hans" in the near future...I'm not that much of a Risk taker anyway and it's better not to use instruments that you don't fully understand. However, I wanted to throw it out there so that we can at least theoretically break out of our 1X2 spiral Maybe it was just too late for my head yesterday and everything is much more plausible than you think....today I haven't really got around to making another entry yet.
Langhans_innen wrote on February 21st, 2025 at 1:15 pm:
For me it's the other way around...finds Spinbetter confusing and the other at least halfway comprehensible. I think the same thing is meant with both and neither offer is better or worse. In any case, I don't see myself as an "Advanced-Hans" in the near future...I'm not that much of a Risk taker anyway and it's better not to use instruments that you don't fully understand. However, I wanted to throw it out there so that we can at least theoretically break out of our 1X2 spiral Maybe it was just too late for my head yesterday and everything is much more plausible than you think....today I haven't really got around to making another entry yet.
😄So it's relatively clear to me how it works, and I don't really see any added value in it... Except, as I said, if for some reason you can't get any money into your betting account and absolutely have to bet😄
With the risk that your bet will be canceled even though it is correct...
Bayern vs Lederbusen CL .... That would be really bad if Bayern were to fail in a final in their own stadium. The season would be a complete disaster again despite the championship title.
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Thank you Stromi for voluntarily taking on this difficult topic. I was secretly counting on you and Butterbrezel Of course, I'm all the more pleased that Slotliebe and Andre have also joined in. Incidentally, I didn't get my (half) knowledge of the definition from the link above, because I would only have been able to do that under the most difficult circumstances, as the topic in the Spinbetter example didn't really make sense to me. However, I couldn't post the source here because of third-party advertising. But I can send you the explanation another way as soon as I find it again. I wasn't able to do that in a hurry. So please be patient
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At no time is it the case that your account could go into the red or something. Either the bets given as "credit" are canceled or the bets are settled with the win from the qualifying bet...
So if you have no more money to Deposit or can't make it to the nearest gas station to buy a psc, but you really want to place a bet, you can use this. Otherwise, I think you could simply deposit money without any disadvantage... 😄
@langhans :
What you have just sent me refers to another bookie. The description on the aff page is confusing at best...
Suggests that if your own bet loses and the Advancebet wins, the bookie will pay out the Advancebet bets (without the win).
I can't check whether this is actually the case with the bookie, I think I would need vpn? If it is, it would of course be much better than the offer from spinbetter...
I think the spinbetter examples are actually quite well explained.
Basically, you don't get anything for free, you just don't have to deposit and you pay for the "free bets" with your potential win from the qualifying bets.
If the win cannot cover these, because the bet is lost, canceled or something else, the bets with the "free bets" are also canceled.
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They will no longer have access to Germany from Monday 😂
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Have to ask again now, which big chance do you mean?
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In the night from Wednesday to Thursday where all games were correct
Boston River win, Once Caldas win, Club America both score, Cruz Azul win, Inter Miami win
Again, all the favorites came easily!
Boah I want to sleep and then something like this
Parents are always complaining that I should sleep. But what can you do, everything is often right at night
If I post bills here, please don't bet 10 euros, that's too much for such big combos. Sure I sometimes hit some, but please only bet 3 euros . that's enough . Please
The last two bills I posted here were garbage.
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Yes, you don't post anything like that beforehand, so nobody can hand in these bills. Sounds strange, but it's true
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Sometimes the parents are just right.
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For me it's the other way round...finds it confusing with Spinbetter and at least halfway comprehensible with the other one. I think the same thing is meant with both and neither offer is better or worse. In any case, I don't see myself as an "Advanced-Hans" in the near future...I'm not that much of a Risk taker anyway and it's better not to use instruments that you don't fully understand. However, I wanted to throw it out there so that we can at least theoretically break out of our 1X2 spiral Maybe it was just too late for my head yesterday and everything is much more plausible than you think....today I haven't really got around to making another entry yet.
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😄So it's relatively clear to me how it works, and I don't really see any added value in it... Except, as I said, if for some reason you can't get any money into your betting account and absolutely have to bet😄
With the risk that your bet will be canceled even though it is correct...
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It's warm today, so HSv embarrasses itself again. Whereby an X against Lautern is no disgrace.
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