But what does Adana care? They were already relegated before it started. Even a 20-0 win wouldn't have changed anything. You can't compare Adana with others who aren't in their position.
They couldn't care less, which is why I wouldn't bet a penny there.
Imagine you bet on over 3.5 goals. But the game is rated 3:0. Cool, isn't it?
But they're probably all the ones who would have been relegated anyway
Imagine you bet on handicap Galatasaray (-2.5) and the game is scored 3:0. Do you know what your "Imagine" means? The bet will be declared void So it's simply not relevant from a betting point of view.
What about Manipulation with Italian teams? Didn't a team even get relegated once? I remember that in that case it was a team with big names. It's crazy, even in a really top league. Seems like you can find that everywhere. Maybe they even do shit everywhere.
Imagine you bet on handicap Galatasaray (-2,5) and the game is scored 3:0. Do you know what your "imagine" means? The bet will be declared void So it's simply not relevant from a betting point of view.
What about Manipulation with Italian teams? Didn't a team even get relegated once? I remember that in that case it was a team with big names. It's crazy, even in a really top league. Seems like you can find that everywhere. Maybe they even do shit everywhere.
Yes, it will be declared void, even though you would have won. You've at least been robbed of the chance to win the bet, which is pretty cheeky. That's why it's risky to bet there.
Joa, Juve (the team I support), but Juve weren't the only ones involved. Several clubs were also involved, you can read about it here Juventus Turin in Serie B: These stars went down to second class in 2006 | Goal.com Germany (In addition to Juve, Lazio Rome, AC Milan, AC Florence were also involved in the scandal. Initially, Lazio and Florence were also to be relegated. However, the Italian sports court was merciful. Only Juve were relegated to Serie .
Why were Juve relegated and the others not? Because a) they had the opportunity to punish a top club and b) as a deterrent maneuver for the future (look, we punished Juve, the 30-time champions, so we have no problem punishing others). Milan probably didn't dare to do that because a certain Berlusconi was president. But that's just a guess on my part.
Despite all the scandals and cases of corruption, I can tell you that no president has behaved like a child and asked his players to abandon the game during the match because he was unhappy with a referee's decision or sent his U19s to protest. In my opinion, that has an even more bitter aftertaste than losing a bet because of manipulation. In the vast majority of cases, you don't notice that anyway.
But I have to agree with you on one thing: it's not just Turkey that cheats. Cheating continues even in Italy (oh what a surprise). A few weeks ago, it even became known that results (such as assists) were falsified in the top basketball league (Serie A) so that certain bets could be won. Unfortunately, I can't find a German/English article on this. But I can translate the most important part for you (Basket, scommesse truffa sulla serie A scoperte da Le Iene. Napoli prende le distanze: "Parte lesa". Cosa è successo)
"Fraudulent betting in the basketball A series was revealed by a report from "Le Iene Show", the Italia Uno program. Essentially, some players in some Serie A basketball games were allegedly awarded non-existent assists and rebounds."
Yes, will be declared void even though you would have won. You were at least robbed of the chance to win the bet, which is cheeky. That's why it's risky to bet there.
Joa, Juve (the team I support), but Juve weren't the only ones involved. Several clubs were also involved, you can read about it here Juventus Turin in Serie B: These stars went down to second class in 2006 | Goal.com Germany (In addition to Juve, Lazio Rome, AC Milan, AC Florence were also involved in the scandal. Initially, Lazio and Florence were also to be relegated. However, the Italian sports court was merciful. Only Juve were relegated to Serie .
Why were Juve relegated and the others not? Because a) they had the opportunity to punish a top club and b) as a deterrent maneuver for the future (look, we punished Juve, the 30-time champions, so we have no problem punishing others). Milan probably didn't dare to do that because a certain Berlusconi was president. But that's just a guess on my part.
Despite all the scandals and cases of corruption, I can tell you that no president has behaved like a child and asked his players to abandon the game during the match because he was unhappy with a referee's decision or sent his U19s to protest. In my opinion, that has an even more bitter aftertaste than losing a bet because of manipulation. In the vast majority of cases, you don't notice that anyway.
But I have to agree with you on one thing: it's not just Turkey that cheats. Cheating continues even in Italy (oh what a surprise). A few weeks ago, it even became known that results (such as assists) were falsified in the top basketball league (Serie A) so that certain bets could be won. Unfortunately, I can't find a German/English article on this. But I can translate the most important part for you (Basket, scommesse truffa sulla serie A scoperte da Le Iene. Napoli prende le distanze: "Parte lesa". Cosa è successo)
"Fraudulent betting in the basketball A series was revealed by a report from "Le Iene Show", the Italia Uno program. Essentially, some players in some Serie A basketball games were allegedly awarded non-existent assists and rebounds."
Yeah, or I'm saved from losing a bet. You can spin it any way you want. Speculation upon speculation!
The way I read it, it was Juve who were involved and that's why they got the harshest sentence. But it doesn't matter! The fact is that your club is not a child of sadness when it comes to Manipulation or whatever.
"Despite all the scandals and cases of corruption, I can tell you that no president has behaved like a child and asked his players to abandon the game because he was unhappy with a referee's decision or sent his U19s out in protest." Well, at least they didn't abandon the game. But why should they? They preferred to manipulate it. So then I prefer a team to say "F*ck you" and leave. By the way, we can also use your great example here with "Imagine you bet on over 3.5 goals." AND THEN a penalty is missed when the score is 3-0 because that's exactly how the game has to end. Then your Tip is wrong and after a while something like this comes up. Then you remember...hey, it was exactly the one game I was missing. Too bad! Because this game is then not rated 1.0. But at least they didn't get knocked off the pitch
Yes, you can point to the Turkish league, but then please also look at other leagues. It's precisely "your" club and "your" league that you support that has already done extremely badly. It's about money, titles and power. There's always the danger that shit will be done somewhere.
Yes, or I'm saved from losing a bet. You can spin it however you want. Speculation upon speculation!
The way I read it, it was Juve who were involved and that's why they got the harshest sentence. But it doesn't matter! The fact is that your club is not a child of sadness when it comes to Manipulation or whatever.
"Despite all the scandals and cases of corruption, I can tell you that no president has behaved like a child and asked his players to abandon the game because he was unhappy with a referee's decision or sent his U19s out in protest." Well, at least they didn't abandon the game. But why should they? They preferred to manipulate it. So then I prefer a team to say "F*ck you" and leave. By the way, we can also use your great example here with " Imagine you bet on over 3.5 goals." AND THEN a penalty is missed when the score is 3:0 because that's exactly how the game has to end. Then your Tip is wrong and after a while something like this comes up. Then you remember...hey, it was exactly the one game I was missing. Too bad! Because this game is then not rated 1.0. But at least they didn't get knocked off the pitch
Yes, you can point to the Turkish league, but then please also look at other leagues. It's precisely "your" club and "your" league that you support that has already done extremely badly. It's about money, titles and power. There's always the danger that shit will be done somewhere.
Well, yes, but manipulation = manipulation. It's the same as cheating. Do you punish someone with a 6 and not the other because the other has cheated less?
The problem is that wrong decisions can also be made with the VAR. I can name you umpteen cases (Germany-Spain Euro 2024 etc.). You can't immediately say that it was manipulation, especially not if you're still on the pitch (or on the touchline).
Yes, you should also pay attention to other leagues. That's also why I talked about the basketball case in Italy. In the meantime, I'm not keen on betting, precisely because I realize that there's a lot of money behind it.
frapi07 wrote on 04.04.2025 at 17:43:
Well, yes, but manipulation=manipulation. It's the same as with cheating. Do you punish someone with a 6 and not the other because the other has cheated less?
The problem is that wrong decisions can also be made with the VAR. I can name you umpteen cases (Germany-Spain Euro 2024 etc.). You can't immediately say that it was Manipulation, especially if you're still on the pitch (or on the touchline).
Yes, you should also pay attention to other leagues. That's also why I talked about the basketball case in Italy. In the meantime, I'm not keen on betting, precisely because I realize that there's a lot of money behind it.
It's not really about how you rate individual things. The fact is that even in a top league like Italy, big clubs have done a lot of shit. It's not just Turkey or the Turkish representatives. It's also Italy, for example Juventus Turin!
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are you sure about that? > 2.5 stands at 1.45 (32nd)
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Langhans_innen wrote on 04/04/2025 21:03:
are you sure? > 2.5 is at 1.45 (32nd)
Yes, so I posted it and 2-3 minutes later it was already 1-0 for Augsburg, I'm new here in the forum, my posts have to be checked by the admins first sorry!
Yes, so I posted it and 2-3 minutes later the 1-0 for Augsburg already came, I'm new here in the forum, my posts have to be checked by the admins first sorry!
it's not wild at all...short irritation and overlap, especially since I released your post That must have happened at the same time as the 1-0 ....congratulations on the good hand...you can hardly make it more timely
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They couldn't care less, which is why I wouldn't bet a penny there.
Imagine you bet on over 3.5 goals. But the game is rated 3:0. Cool, isn't it?
We're not the first to do that.
Turkish Supercup: Fenerbahce sends U19 and breaks off - kicker
Can remember many here going on about goals because of the U19s. Yeah fiddlesticks.
And here's another one: Another scandal in Turkey: President causes match to be abandoned - kicker
But they're probably all the ones who would have been relegated anyway
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Imagine you bet on handicap Galatasaray (-2.5) and the game is scored 3:0. Do you know what your "Imagine" means? The bet will be declared void So it's simply not relevant from a betting point of view.
What about Manipulation with Italian teams? Didn't a team even get relegated once? I remember that in that case it was a team with big names. It's crazy, even in a really top league. Seems like you can find that everywhere. Maybe they even do shit everywhere.
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Yes, it will be declared void, even though you would have won. You've at least been robbed of the chance to win the bet, which is pretty cheeky. That's why it's risky to bet there.
Joa, Juve (the team I support), but Juve weren't the only ones involved. Several clubs were also involved, you can read about it here Juventus Turin in Serie B: These stars went down to second class in 2006 | Goal.com Germany (In addition to Juve, Lazio Rome, AC Milan, AC Florence were also involved in the scandal. Initially, Lazio and Florence were also to be relegated. However, the Italian sports court was merciful. Only Juve were relegated to Serie .
Why were Juve relegated and the others not? Because a) they had the opportunity to punish a top club and b) as a deterrent maneuver for the future (look, we punished Juve, the 30-time champions, so we have no problem punishing others). Milan probably didn't dare to do that because a certain Berlusconi was president. But that's just a guess on my part.
Despite all the scandals and cases of corruption, I can tell you that no president has behaved like a child and asked his players to abandon the game during the match because he was unhappy with a referee's decision or sent his U19s to protest. In my opinion, that has an even more bitter aftertaste than losing a bet because of manipulation. In the vast majority of cases, you don't notice that anyway.
But I have to agree with you on one thing: it's not just Turkey that cheats. Cheating continues even in Italy (oh what a surprise). A few weeks ago, it even became known that results (such as assists) were falsified in the top basketball league (Serie A) so that certain bets could be won. Unfortunately, I can't find a German/English article on this. But I can translate the most important part for you (Basket, scommesse truffa sulla serie A scoperte da Le Iene. Napoli prende le distanze: "Parte lesa". Cosa è successo)
"Fraudulent betting in the basketball A series was revealed by a report from "Le Iene Show", the Italia Uno program. Essentially, some players in some Serie A basketball games were allegedly awarded non-existent assists and rebounds."
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Yeah, or I'm saved from losing a bet. You can spin it any way you want. Speculation upon speculation!
The way I read it, it was Juve who were involved and that's why they got the harshest sentence. But it doesn't matter! The fact is that your club is not a child of sadness when it comes to Manipulation or whatever.
"Despite all the scandals and cases of corruption, I can tell you that no president has behaved like a child and asked his players to abandon the game because he was unhappy with a referee's decision or sent his U19s out in protest." Well, at least they didn't abandon the game. But why should they? They preferred to manipulate it. So then I prefer a team to say "F*ck you" and leave. By the way, we can also use your great example here with "Imagine you bet on over 3.5 goals." AND THEN a penalty is missed when the score is 3-0 because that's exactly how the game has to end. Then your Tip is wrong and after a while something like this comes up. Then you remember...hey, it was exactly the one game I was missing. Too bad! Because this game is then not rated 1.0. But at least they didn't get knocked off the pitch
Yes, you can point to the Turkish league, but then please also look at other leagues. It's precisely "your" club and "your" league that you support that has already done extremely badly. It's about money, titles and power. There's always the danger that shit will be done somewhere.
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Well, yes, but manipulation = manipulation. It's the same as cheating. Do you punish someone with a 6 and not the other because the other has cheated less?
The problem is that wrong decisions can also be made with the VAR. I can name you umpteen cases (Germany-Spain Euro 2024 etc.). You can't immediately say that it was manipulation, especially not if you're still on the pitch (or on the touchline).
Yes, you should also pay attention to other leagues. That's also why I talked about the basketball case in Italy. In the meantime, I'm not keen on betting, precisely because I realize that there's a lot of money behind it.
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xGoal odds for Hannover are getting higher and higher
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Augsburg - Bayern over 2.5 goals
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are you sure about that? > 2.5 stands at 1.45 (32nd)
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Yes, so I posted it and 2-3 minutes later it was already 1-0 for Augsburg, I'm new here in the forum, my posts have to be checked by the admins first sorry!
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it's not wild at all...short irritation and overlap, especially since I released your post That must have happened at the same time as the 1-0 ....congratulations on the good hand...you can hardly make it more timely
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Now I need Rayo Vallecano to score a goal
Mechelen correct but not taken
and Reggiana and Cremonese both score not taken
Why am I thinking - just click
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