Langhans_innen wrote on 19.09.2024 at 15:52:
if necessary, you could easily get the roads together with matched betting in a relatively balance sheet-friendly way...you just have to keep a close eye on where and when with which bet the credits to be received also pay off
Basically, you could look at it like this, using the example of the purple/pink cards:
You have to win 3 bets with odds of 3.
You then receive your reference bet (the smallest bet used to win one of the cards) x3 as a free bet.
Now let's assume that the actual probability of winning these bets is not 1 : 3 as the odds say, but 1 : 3.5, due to the bookmaker's margin (which may be a bit high, but it doesn't matter).
Then you would need an average of 10.5 bets, based only on the probability, to win the 3 cards.
Of course, you play with a 20 euro bet to get the highest possible reference value for calculating the freebets.
So I bet 210€ and win 3 bets, so I get 180€ back.
That means a €30 loss and €60 in freebets, which are always paid out without the bet.
If I then play 3 bets of €20 each, again at odds of 3, and win one, I get €40 and have made a win of €10 😄
If I tend to take risks with the freebet, I will most likely lose everything and the bookie will have €30 plus.
But if you're lucky or choose good bets and only need 9 bets then you've won 180€, put in 180€ and 60€ freebets.
If you're unlucky, you'll be broke before you have all 3 cards😂
As I said before, if you have a lucky streak, it's just mega and you get really good freebets. If you then Risk a bit more with it, it can go bang.
And if it doesn't work out at all, you've just given your money to winamax instead of other bookies 😄you just can't lose control, then it gets bad.
I generally see promos like collecting loyalty points or promotions like that in normal retail.
If you buy the product all the time anyway, it's nice. If you start buying it more or buying it at all because of it, then the bums have you where they want you 😄
Barcelona and Arsenal have certainly broken a few records..
Monaco are also very strong in the league at the moment and then at home. That's why I don't understand why everyone believed in Barcelona, when I placed the bet I had a bad feeling shortly afterwards. But everyone was so convinced.
And I went for it.
Aalborg and Huracan were actually much safer yesterday, because they were playing against lower-ranked opponents.
Maybe someone can explain to me why Barcelona was the favorite now. OK better squad, that will be it.
I also think that people are more interested in the Champions League than the cup in Denmark or the cup in Argentina. And that's why they bet on it?
Monaco currently also very strong in the league and then at home. That's why I don't understand why everyone believed in Barcelona, when I placed the bet I had a bad feeling shortly afterwards. But everyone was so convinced.
And I went for it.
Aalborg and Huracan were actually much safer yesterday, because they were playing against lower-ranked opponents.
Maybe someone can explain to me why Barcelona was the favorite now. OK better squad, that will be it.
I also think that people are more interested in the Champions League than the cup in Denmark or the cup in Argentina. And that's why they bet on it?
I also think that the squad, which is around 2.5 times as valuable, will perform just as well or better in its own, presumably better, league.
And I think the name and the CL experience alone also play a role. Last but not least, the market also plays a role, if many go for Barca, the odds drop...
Without the early red card, things might have turned out differently.
But basically, if you were skeptical from the start because of the favorite role, you had actually found a great value bet that you should have played 😄
Stromberg wrote on 20.09.2024 at 11:08 am:
So basically, you could look at it like this, using the example of the purple/pink cards:
You have to win 3 bets at odds 3.
You then get your reference bet (the smallest bet used to win one of the cards) x3 as a free bet.
Now let's assume that the actual probability of winning these bets is not 1 : 3 as the odds say, but 1 : 3.5, due to the bookmaker's margin (which may be a bit high, but it doesn't matter).
Then you would need an average of 10.5 bets, based only on the probability, to win the 3 cards.
Of course, you play with a 20 euro bet to get the highest possible reference value for calculating the freebets.
So I bet 210€ and win 3 bets, so I get 180€ back.
That means a €30 loss and €60 in freebets, which are always paid out without the bet.
If I then play 3 bets of €20 each, again at odds of 3, and win one, I get €40 and have made a win of €10 😄
If I tend to take risks with the freebet, I will most likely lose everything and the bookie will have €30 plus.
But if you're lucky or choose good bets and only need 9 bets then you've won 180€, put in 180€ and 60€ freebets.
If you're unlucky, you'll be broke before you have all 3 cards😂
As I said before, if you have a lucky streak, it's just mega and you get really good freebets. If you then Risk a little more with it, it can go bang.
And if it doesn't work out at all, you've just given your money to winamax instead of other bookies 😄you just can't lose control, then it gets bad.
I generally see promos like collecting loyalty points or promotions like that in normal retail.
If you buy the product all the time anyway, it's nice. If you start buying it more or buying it at all because of it, then the bums have you where they want you 😄
I'm really not stupid, but I still have to study to understand what you've written here. I also had to stop reading at some point 😂
type 3 X correctly in the given streets. Then the smallest bet x depending on which street you have full.
Example: Pink with a bet of 1 euro:
If you get all 3 streets right, you get a 3 euro free bet.
Actually totally simple. Now you just have to guess correctly 😂
Btw. If I'm not completely mistaken, you can split the free bet afterwards.
Patizi wrote on 09/20/2024 11:55 AM:
I'm really not stupid but to understand what you wrote here I still have to study. I also had to stop reading at some point 😂
type 3 X correctly in the given streets. Then the smallest bet x depending on which street you have full.
Example: Pink with a bet of 1 euro:
If you get all 3 streets right, you get a 3 euro free bet.
Actually totally simple. Now you just have to guess correctly 😂
Btw. If I'm not completely mistaken, you can split the free bet afterwards.
Yes, I somehow started writing and then the thoughts didn't stop and I just kept writing... 😂
I also didn't want to explain what the rules are, but whether or not you get a good deal on the promo with a statistically average or realistic hit rate.
I also think the approx. 2.5 x as valuable squad, an equally good or better performance last in their own, probably also better, league.
And I think the name and the CL experience alone also play a role. Last but not least, the market also plays a role, if many go for Barca, the odds drop...
Without the early red card, things might have turned out differently.
But basically, if you were skeptical from the start because of the role of favorite, you had actually found a great value bet that you should have played 😄
You're good at math, Stromi. I've got into the rules now, otherwise there's nothing to be gained
From a normal point of view, the roads Q8-Q15 are actually utopian to be able to tackle them strategically or in any orderly fashion. Even Q6 is not in a healthy risk/reward ratio to manage a) with combination bets or b) with single bets per left pocket/right pocket including the resulting loss due to the bookie margin. Especially as 3 bets with odds + 6 would first have to arrive somewhere. That's why I didn't choose the word "easy" appropriately, as the proportion of such odds is very low overall.
From Q4 onwards, I might seriously consider placing the bet with Winamax and hedging it elsewhere. Each attempt costs around 5-7% of the bet in normal cases. If you have a good hand with your outside choice, you might have the 3 roads together relatively soon and the credits would pay off. Same game with the Q3 section, where the chances are statistically even better. Maybe also with the 2.50, but I'm also very safety-driven and the latter may not be a choice for some people. The others (1.50-1.75-2) then take the conventional route.
I'll definitely keep my fingers crossed for you, Stromi. Maybe I'll be allowed to take a road somewhere without aiming for it directly. The next less risky action a la "Deposit XY and get 50% freebets back" is sure to come - there will certainly be less headaches and calculation effort, although I like that In the meantime, I'll continue to concentrate on the weekend's core business and fillet the boosters that appear according to the above-mentioned methodology, if they are suitable
Yeah I kind of started writing and then the thoughts didn't stop and I just kept writing... 😂
I also didn't want to explain what the rules are, but whether or not you make a good deal with the promo with a statistically average or realistic hit rate.
You can split up the freebets, yes 👍
Honestly, I kind of feel the same way 😂 You just can't stop writing 😂
Statistically absolutely possible. Just guess right and you'll make the worst win 😂
You're good at math, Stromi. I got into the rules after all, otherwise it's nothing
From a normal point of view, the roads Q8-Q15 are actually utopian to be able to tackle them strategically or in any orderly fashion. Even Q6 is not in a healthy risk/reward ratio to manage a) with combination bets or b) with single bets per left pocket/right pocket including the resulting loss due to the bookie margin. Especially as 3 bets with odds + 6 would first have to arrive somewhere. That's why I didn't choose the word "easy" appropriately, as the proportion of such odds is very low overall.
From Q4 onwards, I might seriously consider placing the bet with Winamax and hedging it elsewhere. Each attempt costs around 5-7% of the bet in normal cases. If you have a good hand with your outside choice, you might have the 3 roads together relatively soon and the credits would pay off. Same game with the Q3 section, where the chances are statistically even better. Maybe also with the 2.50, but I'm also very safety-driven and the latter may not be a choice for some people. The others (1.50-1.75-2) then take the conventional route.
I'll definitely keep my fingers crossed for you, Stromi. Maybe I'll be allowed to take a road somewhere without aiming for it directly. The next less risky action a la "Deposit XY and get 50% freebets back" is sure to come - there will certainly be less headaches and calculation effort, although I like that In the meantime, I'll continue to concentrate on the weekend's core business and fillet the boosters that appear according to the above-mentioned methodology, if they are suitable
I haven't even thought about hedging, that's too much effort and arithmetic for me now... 😄
Thanks for keeping your fingers crossed, I could do with that.
My interim status is as follows...
Depositors 220€ since the start of the promo.
Account balance 120€.
Completed the light blue and pink ones. So 100€ freebets received, but 20€ of these have already been wagered.
Apart from that, one brown one so far. I haven't done the smaller ones yet.
What's the bonus situation like at neobet?
It is well known that they have reduced their weekly bonuses.
But I don't get anything anymore. There was once an odds boost or two for the European Championship and nothing since then.
Not even a Deposit bonus and bonus bets.
Stromberg wrote on 20.09.2024 at 12:45: How are the Bonuses at neobet?
It is well known that they have reduced their weekly bonuses.
But I don't get anything anymore. There was once an odds boost or two for the European Championship and nothing since then.
Not even a Deposit bonus and bonus bets.
They had a challenge this week where you had to bet and get free bets for it. I haven't had a 100% Deposit bonus for a few months now, it's about time again
I also think the approx. 2.5 x as valuable squad, an equally good or better performance last in their own, probably also better, league.
And I think the name and the CL experience alone also play a role. Last but not least, the market also plays a role, if many go for Barca, the odds drop...
Without the early red card, things might have turned out differently.
But basically, if you were skeptical from the start because of the favorite role, you had actually found a great value bet that you should have played 😄
Well I would have backed it with X2 and over 1.5 goals, even that would have been wrong.
So far no matter . My tendency was rather a draw.
I wouldn't have expected Monaco to win
.
But I've learned again that if I have a bad feeling, I shouldn't always listen to the windy experts and prefer not to bet at all.
slotliebe89 wrote on 20.09.2024 at 09:40: I also had to contact support about this. The freebet was then credited a little later.
I can't do all this anymore, I'm getting too old for it. Now they would like to see the email they sent me for the promo.
Of course I no longer have it, why should I, the promotion was also saved in my account.
Now they're trying something, but they can't promise, but that would be more than accommodating of them, as you could read between the lines.
The cross-reference that you can quickly check this in the mailing list using my email address was answered by saying that nobody has access to it
Be that as it may, I would only have liked to have had what I was entitled to.
I will avoid these actions in future, simply to preserve my peace of mind
I can't do it all anymore, I'm getting too old for it. Now they'd like to see the email they sent me for the promo.
Of course I no longer have it, why should I, the promotion was also saved in my account.
Now they're trying something, but they can't promise, but that would be more than accommodating of them, as you could read between the lines.
The cross-reference that you can quickly check this in the mailing list using my email address was answered by saying that nobody has access to it
Be that as it may, I would only have liked to have had what I was entitled to.
I will avoid these actions in future, simply to preserve my peace of mind
What kind of place is this that can't keep track of its own promos?
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Well, that gives hope after all, thanks for the quick answer, at least I'm not the only one
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Basically, you could look at it like this, using the example of the purple/pink cards:
You have to win 3 bets with odds of 3.
You then receive your reference bet (the smallest bet used to win one of the cards) x3 as a free bet.
Now let's assume that the actual probability of winning these bets is not 1 : 3 as the odds say, but 1 : 3.5, due to the bookmaker's margin (which may be a bit high, but it doesn't matter).
Then you would need an average of 10.5 bets, based only on the probability, to win the 3 cards.
Of course, you play with a 20 euro bet to get the highest possible reference value for calculating the freebets.
So I bet 210€ and win 3 bets, so I get 180€ back.
That means a €30 loss and €60 in freebets, which are always paid out without the bet.
If I then play 3 bets of €20 each, again at odds of 3, and win one, I get €40 and have made a win of €10 😄
If I tend to take risks with the freebet, I will most likely lose everything and the bookie will have €30 plus.
But if you're lucky or choose good bets and only need 9 bets then you've won 180€, put in 180€ and 60€ freebets.
If you're unlucky, you'll be broke before you have all 3 cards😂
As I said before, if you have a lucky streak, it's just mega and you get really good freebets. If you then Risk a bit more with it, it can go bang.
And if it doesn't work out at all, you've just given your money to winamax instead of other bookies 😄you just can't lose control, then it gets bad.
I generally see promos like collecting loyalty points or promotions like that in normal retail.
If you buy the product all the time anyway, it's nice. If you start buying it more or buying it at all because of it, then the bums have you where they want you 😄
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Monaco are also very strong in the league at the moment and then at home. That's why I don't understand why everyone believed in Barcelona, when I placed the bet I had a bad feeling shortly afterwards. But everyone was so convinced.
And I went for it.
Aalborg and Huracan were actually much safer yesterday, because they were playing against lower-ranked opponents.
Maybe someone can explain to me why Barcelona was the favorite now. OK better squad, that will be it.
I also think that people are more interested in the Champions League than the cup in Denmark or the cup in Argentina. And that's why they bet on it?
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I also think that the squad, which is around 2.5 times as valuable, will perform just as well or better in its own, presumably better, league.
And I think the name and the CL experience alone also play a role. Last but not least, the market also plays a role, if many go for Barca, the odds drop...
Without the early red card, things might have turned out differently.
But basically, if you were skeptical from the start because of the favorite role, you had actually found a great value bet that you should have played 😄
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I'm really not stupid, but I still have to study to understand what you've written here. I also had to stop reading at some point 😂
type 3 X correctly in the given streets. Then the smallest bet x depending on which street you have full.
Example: Pink with a bet of 1 euro:
If you get all 3 streets right, you get a 3 euro free bet.
Actually totally simple. Now you just have to guess correctly 😂
Btw. If I'm not completely mistaken, you can split the free bet afterwards.
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Yes, I somehow started writing and then the thoughts didn't stop and I just kept writing... 😂
I also didn't want to explain what the rules are, but whether or not you get a good deal on the promo with a statistically average or realistic hit rate.
The freebets can be split up, yes.👍
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You're good at math, Stromi. I've got into the rules now, otherwise there's nothing to be gained
From a normal point of view, the roads Q8-Q15 are actually utopian to be able to tackle them strategically or in any orderly fashion. Even Q6 is not in a healthy risk/reward ratio to manage a) with combination bets or b) with single bets per left pocket/right pocket including the resulting loss due to the bookie margin. Especially as 3 bets with odds + 6 would first have to arrive somewhere. That's why I didn't choose the word "easy" appropriately, as the proportion of such odds is very low overall.
From Q4 onwards, I might seriously consider placing the bet with Winamax and hedging it elsewhere. Each attempt costs around 5-7% of the bet in normal cases. If you have a good hand with your outside choice, you might have the 3 roads together relatively soon and the credits would pay off. Same game with the Q3 section, where the chances are statistically even better. Maybe also with the 2.50, but I'm also very safety-driven and the latter may not be a choice for some people. The others (1.50-1.75-2) then take the conventional route.
I'll definitely keep my fingers crossed for you, Stromi. Maybe I'll be allowed to take a road somewhere without aiming for it directly. The next less risky action a la "Deposit XY and get 50% freebets back" is sure to come - there will certainly be less headaches and calculation effort, although I like that In the meantime, I'll continue to concentrate on the weekend's core business and fillet the boosters that appear according to the above-mentioned methodology, if they are suitable
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Honestly, I kind of feel the same way 😂 You just can't stop writing 😂
Statistically absolutely possible. Just guess right and you'll make the worst win 😂
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I haven't even thought about hedging, that's too much effort and arithmetic for me now... 😄
Thanks for keeping your fingers crossed, I could do with that.
My interim status is as follows...
Depositors 220€ since the start of the promo.
Account balance 120€.
Completed the light blue and pink ones. So 100€ freebets received, but 20€ of these have already been wagered.
Apart from that, one brown one so far. I haven't done the smaller ones yet.
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It is well known that they have reduced their weekly bonuses.
But I don't get anything anymore. There was once an odds boost or two for the European Championship and nothing since then.
Not even a Deposit bonus and bonus bets.
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They had a challenge this week where you had to bet and get free bets for it. I haven't had a 100% Deposit bonus for a few months now, it's about time again
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Absolutely...
Well, in my case it was worth it for them too, I'd say. I always took it with me, and rarely used it 😂
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Well I would have backed it with X2 and over 1.5 goals, even that would have been wrong.
So far no matter . My tendency was rather a draw.
I wouldn't have expected Monaco to win
.
But I've learned again that if I have a bad feeling, I shouldn't always listen to the windy experts and prefer not to bet at all.
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I can't do all this anymore, I'm getting too old for it. Now they would like to see the email they sent me for the promo.
Of course I no longer have it, why should I, the promotion was also saved in my account.
Now they're trying something, but they can't promise, but that would be more than accommodating of them, as you could read between the lines.
The cross-reference that you can quickly check this in the mailing list using my email address was answered by saying that nobody has access to it
Be that as it may, I would only have liked to have had what I was entitled to.
I will avoid these actions in future, simply to preserve my peace of mind
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What kind of place is this that can't keep track of its own promos?
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