Patizi wrote on 09/13/2024 06:26:
Why hate? Hopefully they win the CL and the championship. Let's go VFB.
Just thought it was realistic that they could catch a few against Real, that Dortmund's stats in Stuttgart are very good, that Stuttgart might struggle with the triple burden, that last season was overly good compared to all the years before and that they might already be a bit in Madrid this weekend. As I said...thought that was all realistic.
Btw. Due to all the basics I stick to the fact that the 1.70 is a great odds and this game can also inspire Anton and Guirassy.
You can't deny a certain VfB aversion
In this game, however, I agree with you for once, as I think the odds - as of today - are far too high for Dortmund and absolutely value.
Compared to the last direct duels, it's clearly Stuttgart, but these direct duels can only be included to a limited extent in the current odds, because 2 important players have changed directly. Based on the current form, I would realistically assess the game - without VfB glasses - as 50 / 50 or 40 / 60 per Dortmund.
The atmosphere at the home game can be inspiring, but as you mentioned, it can also be stressful if Dortmund score 1 or 2 goals early on. It depends a lot on the right mindset, the form of the day decides.
In Anton's case, I can really imagine him being unsettled by whistling concerts à la Cucurella as soon as he gets on the ball. In my opinion, he's not the mental monster who enjoys it and makes himself stronger (like a Kahn or a Lehmann, for example).
Guirassy is a different story. A few fans will certainly boo him, but in my opinion that will be the minority. The reason is simple: he has never sworn allegiance and has contributed a lot to Stuttgart playing in the CL this season.
It's stupid that he's moving to a direct competitor, but I read somewhere that he's getting three times the salary at Dortmund.
If you don't have a deep connection to the club but see it as an employer and want to stay in Germany, the move is completely understandable (assuming Bayern wasn't interested). Most fans know that too.
In this game, however, I agree with you for once, as I find the odds - as of today - far too high and absolutely value for Dortmund.
Compared to the last direct duels, it's clearly Stuttgart, but these direct duels can only be included to a limited extent in the current odds, because 2 important players have changed directly. Based on the current form, I would realistically assess the game - without VfB glasses - as 50 / 50 or 40 / 60 per Dortmund.
The atmosphere at the home game can be inspiring, but as you mentioned, it can also be stressful if Dortmund score 1 or 2 goals early on. It depends a lot on the right mindset, the form of the day decides.
In Anton's case, I can really imagine him being unsettled by whistling concerts à la Cucurella as soon as he gets on the ball. In my opinion, he's not the mental monster who enjoys it and makes himself stronger (like a Kahn or a Lehmann, for example).
Guirassy is a different story. A few fans will certainly boo him, but in my opinion that will be the minority. The reason is simple: he has never sworn allegiance and has contributed a lot to Stuttgart playing in the CL this season.
It's stupid that he's moving to a direct competitor, but I read somewhere that he's getting three times the salary at Dortmund.
If you don't have a deep connection to the club but see it as an employer and want to stay in Germany, the move is completely understandable (assuming Bayern wasn't interested). Most fans know that too.
I don't have a general dislike of Stuttgart. They were just raised so high to me. You know, I was also surprised that they pulled it off last season, but they don't belong up there. Let them confirm that for a few years first.
That's exactly how I would assess it with the 50/50 rather 40/60 per Dortmund. So these odds are extremely high for a x2.
I think that last statement is awesome. So you really see Stuttgart as a direct competitor of Dortmund. Dortmund have been playing in the top 4 for years (more likely even higher) and are regular CL participants. Now Stuttgart has been at the top once and automatically becomes a direct competitor? That's what I mean, it's so unrealistic. I don't know if it was you who saw Stuttgart in 5th-6th place before the season, but I don't see Dortmund there. I already see Dortmund in the top 3.
In this game, however, I agree with you for once, as I find the odds - as of today - far too high and absolutely value for Dortmund.
Compared to the last direct duels, it's clearly Stuttgart, but these direct duels can only be included to a limited extent in the current odds, because 2 important players have changed directly. Based on the current form, I would realistically assess the game - without VfB glasses - as 50 / 50 or 40 / 60 per Dortmund.
The atmosphere at the home game can be inspiring, but as you mentioned, it can also be stressful if Dortmund score 1 or 2 goals early on. It depends a lot on the right mindset, the form of the day decides.
In Anton's case, I can really imagine him being unsettled by whistling concerts à la Cucurella as soon as he gets on the ball. In my opinion, he's not the mental monster who enjoys it and makes himself stronger (like a Kahn or a Lehmann, for example).
Guirassy is a different story. A few fans will certainly boo him, but in my opinion that will be the minority. The reason is simple: he has never sworn allegiance and has contributed a lot to Stuttgart playing in the CL this season.
It's stupid that he's moving to a direct competitor, but I read somewhere that he's getting three times the salary at Dortmund.
If you don't have a deep connection to the club but see it as an employer and want to stay in Germany, the move is completely understandable (assuming Bayern wasn't interested). Most fans know that too.
I don't have a general dislike for Stuttgart. They were just lifted so high for me. You know, I was also surprised that they pulled it off last season, but they don't belong up there. Let them confirm that for a few years first.
That's exactly how I would assess it with the 50/50 rather 40/60 per Dortmund. So these odds are extremely high for a x2.
I think that last statement is awesome. So you really see Stuttgart as a direct competitor of Dortmund. Dortmund have been playing in the top 4 for years (more likely even higher) and are regular CL participants. Now Stuttgart has been at the top once and automatically becomes a direct competitor? That's what I mean, it's so unrealistic. I don't know if it was you who saw Stuttgart in 5th-6th place before the season, but I don't see Dortmund there. I already see Dortmund in the top 3.
The fact that Stuttgart is currently at least on a par with Dortmund is anything but unrealistic.
Stuttgart play better soccer by far, whether that will be more successful again remains to be seen.
I see Dortmund in 4th place at most... I see FCB, Leipzig and Leverkusen in front of them in normal form.
I don't have a general dislike for Stuttgart. They were just lifted so high for me. You know, I was also surprised that they pulled it off last season, but they don't belong up there. Let them confirm that for a few years first.
That's exactly how I would assess it with the 50/50 rather 40/60 per Dortmund. So these odds are extremely high for a x2.
I think that last statement is awesome. So you really see Stuttgart as a direct competitor of Dortmund. Dortmund have been playing in the top 4 for years (more likely even higher) and are regular CL participants. Now Stuttgart has been at the top once and automatically becomes a direct competitor? That's what I mean, it's so unrealistic. I don't know if it was you who saw Stuttgart in 5th-6th place before the season, but I don't see Dortmund there. I already see Dortmund in the top 3.
Of course Stuttgart is a direct competitor of Dortmund. I wrote my opinion on this on 30.08.2024.
Not seeing the runners-up in the previous season's table as a competitor to the fifth-placed team in the previous season is not technically correct and incomprehensible in my opinion, based on the above argument. The team squads from 3 years ago, for example, have very little to do with the current ones. Not for either team.
Soccer is a business where a lot can change in 1 year. The 10 years before have no relevance to the current or previous season.
There seems to be this Monopoly promotion at Winamax again soon. I haven't taken part in it or really noticed it, but I've read some positive things here and I think Stromi was really excited about it. Anyway, I just saw a pop-up with "Monopoly Coming soon"
Not seeing the runners-up in the previous season's table as a competitor to the fifth-placed team in the previous season's table is, in my opinion, factually incorrect and incomprehensible from the above argumentation. The team squads from 3 years ago, for example, have very little to do with the current ones. Not for either team.
Soccer is a business where a lot can change in 1 year. The 10 years before have no relevance to the current or previous season.
What has Stuttgart achieved? Once, without even having any other burden, they finished second against teams that easily have 10 more games in their bones. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Please keep your feet on the ground. Just because Dortmund reached the CL final doesn't make them an absolute top team in Europe and on a par with Real and co. We don't have to go back 3 years at VFB, 1 year and 4 months is enough. They only just managed to stay in the league, just like the year before. Just over a year ago and a relegation candidate and now you want to tell me you're on a par with a team that plays in the CL every year and not just the group stage. Be realistic and show a bit of humility. As if you've forgotten where you come from, you naturally see yourself on an equal footing with a club that has been playing at a different level for years Probably even on an equal footing with Fc Bayern
Langhans_innen wrote on 13.09.2024 at 19:48: Soon there seems to be this Monopoly promotion at Winamax again. I didn't take part in it or really noticed it, but I read some positive things here and I think Stromi was on fire for it. Anyway, I just saw a pop-up with "Monopoly Coming soon"
That was once before 1-2 years ago, the campaign was really cool but maybe only because it went relatively well for me xD
Not seeing the runners-up in the previous season's table as a competitor to the fifth-placed team in the previous season is not technically correct and incomprehensible in my opinion, based on the above argument. The team squads from 3 years ago, for example, have very little to do with the current ones. Not for either team.
Soccer is a business where a lot can change in 1 year. The 10 years before have no relevance to the current or previous season.
At Dortmund, 2/3 were with their national teams. At Heidenheim it was only 2 or so. But I think Dortmund will win. But the two goals from Rainmann, for a 1.72, I don't think that's bad either. Dortmund haven't conceded one yet either but who knows vlt holds the zero for the third time.
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I agree that you have to beat Heidenheim.
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You can't deny a certain VfB aversion
In this game, however, I agree with you for once, as I think the odds - as of today - are far too high for Dortmund and absolutely value.
Compared to the last direct duels, it's clearly Stuttgart, but these direct duels can only be included to a limited extent in the current odds, because 2 important players have changed directly. Based on the current form, I would realistically assess the game - without VfB glasses - as 50 / 50 or 40 / 60 per Dortmund.
The atmosphere at the home game can be inspiring, but as you mentioned, it can also be stressful if Dortmund score 1 or 2 goals early on. It depends a lot on the right mindset, the form of the day decides.
In Anton's case, I can really imagine him being unsettled by whistling concerts à la Cucurella as soon as he gets on the ball. In my opinion, he's not the mental monster who enjoys it and makes himself stronger (like a Kahn or a Lehmann, for example).
Guirassy is a different story. A few fans will certainly boo him, but in my opinion that will be the minority. The reason is simple: he has never sworn allegiance and has contributed a lot to Stuttgart playing in the CL this season.
It's stupid that he's moving to a direct competitor, but I read somewhere that he's getting three times the salary at Dortmund.
If you don't have a deep connection to the club but see it as an employer and want to stay in Germany, the move is completely understandable (assuming Bayern wasn't interested). Most fans know that too.
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I don't have a general dislike of Stuttgart. They were just raised so high to me. You know, I was also surprised that they pulled it off last season, but they don't belong up there. Let them confirm that for a few years first.
That's exactly how I would assess it with the 50/50 rather 40/60 per Dortmund. So these odds are extremely high for a x2.
I think that last statement is awesome. So you really see Stuttgart as a direct competitor of Dortmund. Dortmund have been playing in the top 4 for years (more likely even higher) and are regular CL participants. Now Stuttgart has been at the top once and automatically becomes a direct competitor? That's what I mean, it's so unrealistic. I don't know if it was you who saw Stuttgart in 5th-6th place before the season, but I don't see Dortmund there. I already see Dortmund in the top 3.
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VFB is my favorite at home.
And they continue to play the better soccer.
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The fact that Stuttgart is currently at least on a par with Dortmund is anything but unrealistic.
Stuttgart play better soccer by far, whether that will be more successful again remains to be seen.
I see Dortmund in 4th place at most... I see FCB, Leipzig and Leverkusen in front of them in normal form.
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Of course Stuttgart is a direct competitor of Dortmund. I wrote my opinion on this on 30.08.2024.
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/sportwetten/tipps/sportwetten-tipps-2024-376672/247/#p411891
That's what I mean by your dislike of VfB.
Not seeing the runners-up in the previous season's table as a competitor to the fifth-placed team in the previous season is not technically correct and incomprehensible in my opinion, based on the above argument. The team squads from 3 years ago, for example, have very little to do with the current ones. Not for either team.
Soccer is a business where a lot can change in 1 year. The 10 years before have no relevance to the current or previous season.
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What has Stuttgart achieved? Once, without even having any other burden, they finished second against teams that easily have 10 more games in their bones. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Please keep your feet on the ground. Just because Dortmund reached the CL final doesn't make them an absolute top team in Europe and on a par with Real and co. We don't have to go back 3 years at VFB, 1 year and 4 months is enough. They only just managed to stay in the league, just like the year before. Just over a year ago and a relegation candidate and now you want to tell me you're on a par with a team that plays in the CL every year and not just the group stage. Be realistic and show a bit of humility. As if you've forgotten where you come from, you naturally see yourself on an equal footing with a club that has been playing at a different level for years Probably even on an equal footing with Fc Bayern
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That was once before 1-2 years ago, the campaign was really cool but maybe only because it went relatively well for me xD
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Schalke disappointing once again. Hopefully you didn't bet too much on my trust me brother tip.
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Super easyy
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Think Bayern will win even high
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After yesterday I can imagine that he'll be even better. His first goal is only a matter of time. He seems to fit in incredibly well.
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