Nah I still don't understand anything. Even if Inter had won 5-0, there is an obligation to buy over 27 million, so the transfer has nothing to do with the result. I see that at the start of the loan the market value was still below 27m, so he only went over 27m during the loan.
Btw. A B-team at Inter is still better than 2/3 of the league. A good example was Dortmund in Germany. 10 other people played in the league and they still got a 5:1. B-Elf can also have a positive effect in terms of showing themselves etc
Yes, they have an obligation to buy, but they got him for a bargain at the time. Last year (July 2023) they finalized the deal. As you wrote, €27m and a few other things like Bonuses etc. All in all, a total of around €38m.
Regardless of the market value, the price was really low. As I said, the two have been doing deals with each other for decades.
Yes, I agree with you. That's also why I thought Inter would win the league this year. They basically have 2 teams and have made a lot of good transfers in the summer. Onana was bought for good money and Sommer was brought in and Thuram was also worth it. I didn't think he would deliver like that. That's why it's so surprising that they didn't score more than 1 goal.
I've seen some videos and comments (including blogs) that agree that it really wasn't a surprise.
"Marotta's Inter lost to Carnevali's Sassuolo, who would have thought it?
Soccer is really strange. It produces surprising results. Would anyone have bet a euro on the wreck beating the Inter battleship? And how? Would you have bet everything you had? But no, we can't believe it. At the Mapei Stadium, where Marotta and Carnevali's teams faced each other, the unthinkable happened. One Italian champion and the other with one foot in Serie B. Sassuolo won 1-0. Incredibly, the Nerazzurri played a non-game. Although they were full of reserves, they could have put in a half-decent performance, but instead they did nothing."
This comment is littered with sarcasm xD
By the way, Sassuolo were the only team to beat Inter so far. Coincidences do happen xD
frapi07 wrote on 08/05/2024 09:39:
Yes, they have an obligation to buy, but got him for a bargain at the time. Last year (July 2023) they finalized the deal. As you wrote €27m and a few other things like Bonuses etc. All in all, a total of around €38m.
Regardless of the market value, the price was really low. As I said, the two have been doing deals with each other for decades.
Yes, I agree with you. That's also why I thought Inter would win the league this year. They basically have 2 teams and have made a lot of good transfers in the summer. Onana was bought for good money and Sommer was brought in and Thuram was also worth it. I didn't think he would deliver like that. That's why it's so surprising that they haven't scored more than 1 goal.
I've seen some videos and comments (including blogs) that agree that it really wasn't a surprise.
"Marotta's Inter lost to Carnevali's Sassuolo, who would have thought it?
Soccer is really strange. It produces surprising results. Would anyone have bet a euro on the wreck beating the Inter battleship? And how? Would you have bet everything you had? But no, we can't believe it. At the Mapei Stadium, where Marotta and Carnevali's teams faced each other, the unthinkable happened. One Italian champion and the other with one foot in Serie B. Sassuolo won 1-0. Incredibly, the Nerazzurri played a non-game. Although they were full of reserves, they could have put in a half-decent performance, but instead they did nothing."
This comment is littered with sarcasm xD
By the way, Sassuolo were the only team to beat Inter so far. Coincidences do happen xD
27 million + 5 million bonus possible = 32 million.
Why is the market value low? It will be adjusted in the same way as for Mbappe or Haaland. The market value will fit.
Of course they had a shot on goal. They even scored a goal, but it was just offside. In addition, a few things went just past the goal and they are not counted as shots on goal. With the chances Inter had, they could have or should have won.
In my opinion, you often make up nonsense. Sometimes totally incoherent or completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. And then you end up agreeing with me. Like with the B-Elf thing. First you accuse Inter of only playing with a B eleven and it's understandable that they then lose or you see Manipulation there and then you write that you agree with me that they are still better with the B eleven than 2/3 of the league. Wtf?
Why is the market value low? It will be adjusted in the same way as for a Mbappe or a Haaland. The market value will fit.
Of course they had a shot on goal. They even scored a goal, but it was just offside. What's more, a few things went just past the goal and they're not counted as shots on goal. With the chances Inter had, they could have or should have won.
In my opinion, you really often make up nonsense. Sometimes totally incoherent or completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. And then you end up agreeing with me. Like with the B-Elf thing. First you accuse Inter of only playing with a B eleven and it's understandable that they then lose or you see Manipulation there and then you write that you agree with me that they are still better with the B eleven than 2/3 of the league. Wtf?
Inter pays:
- Sassuolo 6 million for the loan, 27 for the obligatory transfer fee, that's already 33 million.
another 5 in the form of Bonuses (Inter won the league here)
- and 10 % of a future resale.
All in all, he could even cost more than 38 million. The emphasis here is on could, because the 10% of the resale could still apply. However, we are assuming the present and therefore the current figure is €38 million
Source: Frattesi all'Inter, ecco quanto incasserà la Roma - la Repubblica (Excerpt translated: "In total, he could cost €38 million, plus as much as will be added in the future if the player is sold on. And, curiously, all this will also fill Roma's accounts.")
Well, think about it... there are several factors that determine the market value, including
- Age
- Performance
- Position (i.e. whether CAM/MID/DEF/AT) or whatever
- International recognition
these 4 factors can indeed not be influenced, but there is one more factor:
- Contract situation and that can also push the price up/down. Furthermore, there is no typical supply/demand if they know that Inter are interested in Frattesi anyway. They will reject any offers from other clubs. Inter, for example, didn't really need Raspadori because they got Thuram instead for 0€ (same position). Both were also coincidentally brought in by both clubs on July 1, 2023 (i.e. Thuram from Inter) and (Raspadori from Napoli).
Where am I writing bullshit? I even prove to you that the voices on X and several social media were very critical. Of course you can't know that, you don't speak Italian and you don't follow it.
I just think it's extremely funny that you think you're trying to tell me off everywhere, even on topics that you don't know anything about and that you contradict me on every little thing just on principle and are therefore completely wrong.
I write that Frattesi costs 38 million and you just contradict me wildly (and that without informing yourself beforehand) and only calculate the transfer fee + the bonus. Oh and the loan doesn't count towards the purchase price? Of course it counts towards the purchase price.
"First you accuse Inter of only playing with a B-eleven and it's understandable that they then lose or you see manipulation there and then you write that you agree with me that they are still better with the B-eleven than 2/3 of the league. Wtf!?"
Yes, even the B-Elf should be able to beat a current Sassuolo. in 8/10 cases. A draw could still happen, but losing? And that in the first and second half of the season and as the only team they could beat Inter (so far). What's going on has Sassuolo now found the secret formula to beat Inter?
The fact that they played with their reserves is a fact. Sanchez, Frattesi (he was often only used as a late substitute), Audero and so on and so forth.
and before you come back with "yes are pointless games, are considered friendlies anyway" - why did Torino (not Juve) play with a full complement after the derby (and after it was mathematically certain that Inter would win the league)? Barella, Canaloglu, Thuram Sommer, Darmian... I thought they were in chill mode?
Any idea what to bet on Bayern in the Betano Mission? Draw? I think Real are much stronger than Paris and Bayern, well. They're not that good. I think Real are more likely to win. Over goals could also go wrong
Donnie wrote on 08.05.2024 at 17:10: Any idea what to bet on the Betano Mission at Bayern? Draw? Think Real are much stronger than Paris and Bayern, well. They are not that good. Think Real are more likely to win. Over goals could also go wrong
Somehow there are 2 different statements about the promotion. The email says that you get a 10€ freebet if you lose your bet. In the missions on Betano it says that the freebet will be credited regardless of the outcome of the game.
Donnie wrote on 08.05.2024 at 17:10: Any idea what to bet on the Betano Mission at Bayern? Draw? Think Real are much stronger than Paris and Bayern, well. They are not that good. Think Real are more likely to win. Over goals could also go wrong
So I currently have 4 things in my head. Handicap Real, 3.5 over + win Real, simply 3.5 goals oooor Vini scores. Since there's the 10-man either way, I'm leaning towards the 2.20 for Vini's goal. Makes just over 30 euros when it comes.
Patizi wrote on 07.05.2024 at 16:00: Let's see how the activity is here.
I'll write down all the semi-final games and you take three of them + the corresponding tips. So maybe there will be some momentum here and one or the other has his combination Tip for the European Cup evenings. So
Paris - Dortmund
Real - Bayern
Bruges - Florence
Piraeus - Villa
Bergamo - Marseille
Leverkusen - Rome
I suspect that most people will go for the German games. These will also be my 3 tips. Both CL games at over 2.5 and for the Leverkusen game I also expect over 2.5 goals. All 3 together result in a 3.91 and you have a game every day if it goes through.
Incidentally, this was a little test on my part to see how the turnout is for something like this when there's nothing at stake and you just have to pack 3 of the 6 games as a combo, without justification. I thought the turnout would be very low, but I didn't think it would be that low either. It just shows what I thought, there has to be money in the game for people to participate. If I had simply thrown a 10 Euro Paysafecard into the ring, I guarantee that up to 20 people would have written in.
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Yes, they have an obligation to buy, but they got him for a bargain at the time. Last year (July 2023) they finalized the deal. As you wrote, €27m and a few other things like Bonuses etc. All in all, a total of around €38m.
Regardless of the market value, the price was really low. As I said, the two have been doing deals with each other for decades.
Yes, I agree with you. That's also why I thought Inter would win the league this year. They basically have 2 teams and have made a lot of good transfers in the summer. Onana was bought for good money and Sommer was brought in and Thuram was also worth it. I didn't think he would deliver like that. That's why it's so surprising that they didn't score more than 1 goal.
I've seen some videos and comments (including blogs) that agree that it really wasn't a surprise.
L'Inter di Marotta ha perso con il Sassuolo di Carnevali, chi l'avrebbe mai detto - ilNapolista
"Marotta's Inter lost to Carnevali's Sassuolo, who would have thought it?
Soccer is really strange. It produces surprising results. Would anyone have bet a euro on the wreck beating the Inter battleship? And how? Would you have bet everything you had? But no, we can't believe it. At the Mapei Stadium, where Marotta and Carnevali's teams faced each other, the unthinkable happened. One Italian champion and the other with one foot in Serie B. Sassuolo won 1-0. Incredibly, the Nerazzurri played a non-game. Although they were full of reserves, they could have put in a half-decent performance, but instead they did nothing."
This comment is littered with sarcasm xD
By the way, Sassuolo were the only team to beat Inter so far. Coincidences do happen xD
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Take it easy, dear Hanshanshans
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27 million + 5 million bonus possible = 32 million.
Why is the market value low? It will be adjusted in the same way as for Mbappe or Haaland. The market value will fit.
Of course they had a shot on goal. They even scored a goal, but it was just offside. In addition, a few things went just past the goal and they are not counted as shots on goal. With the chances Inter had, they could have or should have won.
In my opinion, you often make up nonsense. Sometimes totally incoherent or completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. And then you end up agreeing with me. Like with the B-Elf thing. First you accuse Inter of only playing with a B eleven and it's understandable that they then lose or you see Manipulation there and then you write that you agree with me that they are still better with the B eleven than 2/3 of the league. Wtf?
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https://www.winamax.de/sportwetten/extras#mission-details-548
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Patizi versus Frapi
Topic doesn't matter.....the main thing is always back and forth, pro and con, for and against.
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Inter pays:
- Sassuolo 6 million for the loan, 27 for the obligatory transfer fee, that's already 33 million.
another 5 in the form of Bonuses (Inter won the league here)
- and 10 % of a future resale.
All in all, he could even cost more than 38 million. The emphasis here is on could, because the 10% of the resale could still apply. However, we are assuming the present and therefore the current figure is €38 million
Source: Frattesi all'Inter, ecco quanto incasserà la Roma - la Repubblica (Excerpt translated: "In total, he could cost €38 million, plus as much as will be added in the future if the player is sold on. And, curiously, all this will also fill Roma's accounts.")
Well, think about it... there are several factors that determine the market value, including
- Age
- Performance
- Position (i.e. whether CAM/MID/DEF/AT) or whatever
- International recognition
these 4 factors can indeed not be influenced, but there is one more factor:
- Contract situation and that can also push the price up/down. Furthermore, there is no typical supply/demand if they know that Inter are interested in Frattesi anyway. They will reject any offers from other clubs. Inter, for example, didn't really need Raspadori because they got Thuram instead for 0€ (same position). Both were also coincidentally brought in by both clubs on July 1, 2023 (i.e. Thuram from Inter) and (Raspadori from Napoli).
Where am I writing bullshit? I even prove to you that the voices on X and several social media were very critical. Of course you can't know that, you don't speak Italian and you don't follow it.
I just think it's extremely funny that you think you're trying to tell me off everywhere, even on topics that you don't know anything about and that you contradict me on every little thing just on principle and are therefore completely wrong.
I write that Frattesi costs 38 million and you just contradict me wildly (and that without informing yourself beforehand) and only calculate the transfer fee + the bonus. Oh and the loan doesn't count towards the purchase price? Of course it counts towards the purchase price.
"First you accuse Inter of only playing with a B-eleven and it's understandable that they then lose or you see manipulation there and then you write that you agree with me that they are still better with the B-eleven than 2/3 of the league. Wtf!?"
Yes, even the B-Elf should be able to beat a current Sassuolo. in 8/10 cases. A draw could still happen, but losing? And that in the first and second half of the season and as the only team they could beat Inter (so far). What's going on has Sassuolo now found the secret formula to beat Inter?
The fact that they played with their reserves is a fact. Sanchez, Frattesi (he was often only used as a late substitute), Audero and so on and so forth.
and before you come back with "yes are pointless games, are considered friendlies anyway" - why did Torino (not Juve) play with a full complement after the derby (and after it was mathematically certain that Inter would win the league)? Barella, Canaloglu, Thuram Sommer, Darmian... I thought they were in chill mode?
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Somehow there are 2 different statements about the promotion. The email says that you get a 10€ freebet if you lose your bet. In the missions on Betano it says that the freebet will be credited regardless of the outcome of the game.
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So I currently have 4 things in my head. Handicap Real, 3.5 over + win Real, simply 3.5 goals oooor Vini scores. Since there's the 10-man either way, I'm leaning towards the 2.20 for Vini's goal. Makes just over 30 euros when it comes.
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Incidentally, this was a little test on my part to see how the turnout is for something like this when there's nothing at stake and you just have to pack 3 of the 6 games as a combo, without justification. I thought the turnout would be very low, but I didn't think it would be that low either. It just shows what I thought, there has to be money in the game for people to participate. If I had simply thrown a 10 Euro Paysafecard into the ring, I guarantee that up to 20 people would have written in.
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Unfortunately not enough for Betano
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What do you think of goalscorer Vini?
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