Stromberg wrote on November 22nd, 2023 at 10:49 am:
Regarding the money.... I'm actually of the opinion that no one should earn as much money a year as 100 others do in their lives despite working full-time. And certainly not for playing football.
Of course you could say that they earn the money back for the club. Unfortunately, this is not always correct and only shows how crazy people are...
It's absolutely ok for me that they earn so much if it's possible. Everyone should get the maximum out of it if they can. And as you have just confirmed yourself, you are one of the reasons why this is possible. Even if you are only a very small cog in the whole thing. Take the cogs out and they no longer deserve it. The problem is that the cogs don't want to get out, so it's hard to understand why you can criticize something in terms of money when you're supporting it financially yourself.
But when things aren't going well in terms of play, you can show a little more bet than the overpaid men on the pitch, that's what you see. Only Müller tried everything again, that was it. Two of my pretty younger sisters play soccer in a women's team around the corner and the girls there show more bet than the soccer millionaires, why don't they get more money and the ones up there get less?
What a bunch of token footballers the Germans are, they can only play. Tip, heel, blah blah blah. They can't work at soccer, fight or put in 10% more bet
Stromberg wrote on November 22nd, 2023 at 10:44 am:
It's not about becoming world champion, and donnie didn't say he was a better footballer...
The fact is that for years there's been a team made up of players from top clubs that doesn't get much done. And I also see it as a mentality problem. In my opinion, the whole thing just doesn't have the same significance for the players as it used to and they don't give it 100 percent.
I didn't mention anything about world champions either. While we're on the subject of who said what and who didn't. Donnie clearly communicated in his statement that Nagelsmann probably understands less than Donnie. For me, that indicates that he sees himself as more competent and thinks he will do a better job.
They're all great footballers on the pitch, but not enough for the world's best because, for example, a Füllkrug doesn't have the level of the world's best. But you don't have the material to do anything different. You can only hope that something will come along and the future will be better. That's what I think...
It's absolutely ok for me that they earn so much if it's possible. Everyone should get the maximum out of it if they can. And as you have just confirmed yourself, you are also one of the reasons why this is possible. Even if you are only a very small cog in the whole thing. Take the cogs out and they no longer deserve it. The problem is that the cogs don't want to get out, so it's hard to understand why you can criticize something in terms of money if you're supporting it financially yourself.
Sure, you can't blame the players for taking what they get, no question. (It just becomes questionable in terms of character if you try to strike out because of the money or move to the most absurd leagues).
It really is a social problem that playing football is obviously worth more than saving lives as a doctor, caring for sick people as a nurse, etc.
But this doesn't just apply to football, but to "stars" in general.
Obviously, people are inherently predisposed to think that other people who are good at something are so great that they want them to sign their jerseys, buy the perfume they are promoting, follow them on social media, which in the end only drives up advertising salaries....
It's just a development in the world that I can't approve of 😄
I didn't mention anything about world champion either though. While we're at it, who said what and who didn't. Donnie clearly communicated in the statement that Nagelsmann probably understands less than Donnie. For me, that indicates that he sees himself as more competent and thinks he will do a better job.
They're all great footballers on the pitch, but not enough for the world's best because, for example, a Füllkrug doesn't have the level of the world's best. But you don't have the material to do something different. You can only hope that something will come along and the future will be better. That's what I think...
Yes, the European Championship is coming and then you can show what you can do again... As I said, I think it's more of a mentality problem than a player problem. It's okay against France, they're simply in a better position, but against Austria and Turkey it's not down to the players.
But they were only friendlies, so next year we'll see sehen✌️
I didn't mention anything about world champion either though. While we're at it, who said what and who didn't. Donnie clearly communicated in the statement that Nagelsmann probably understands less than Donnie. For me, that indicates that he sees himself as more competent and thinks he'll do a better job.
They're all great footballers on the pitch, but not enough for the world's best because, for example, a Füllkrug doesn't have the level of the world's best. But you don't have the material to do anything different. You can only hope that something will come along and the future will be better. That's what I think...
I didn't say that I know more about soccer than Nagelsmann. But putting a phlegmatic Brandt together with a completely out-of-form Gnabry against a compact and strong Austrian midfield is questionable. Someone needs to explain to me why Gündogan is captain, what he shows on the pitch is outrageous. Havertz as a full-back is also a stroke of genius. Strokes of genius wherever you look, maybe the coaches should understand that they shouldn't just line up by name but rather by ability for their own game. Club and national team soccer are two different things, many players are at big top clubs because they also benefit from their teammates and fit better into the system
Stromberg wrote on November 22nd, 2023 at 11:07 am:
Sure, you can't blame the players for taking what they get no question. (It just becomes questionable in terms of character when you try to strike out because of the money or move to the most absurd leagues).
It really is a social problem that playing football is obviously worth more than saving lives as a doctor, caring for sick people as a nurse, etc.
But this doesn't just apply to football, but to "stars" in general.
Obviously, people are inherently predisposed to think that other people who are good at something are so great that they want them to sign their jerseys, buy the perfume they are promoting, follow them on social media, which in the end only drives up advertising salaries....
It's just a development in the world that I can't approve of 😄
And if the performance isn't even right, phew.
Which you don't approve of but still support. To watch your stars, you just buy a subscription to Sky and support them. As I said, the thing with the cogwheel. I don't think doctors make a bad living either and earn good money. They won't be starving. I think this comparison with other professions is just nonsense and leads nowhere because everyone has a different view on it. I don't compare salespeople with footballers either. If you go by what you need and then classify what everyone should earn, firstly it's individual and secondly footballers should play for free.
Yes, the European Championship is coming and then you can show what you can do again... As I said, I think it's more of a mentality problem than a player problem. It's okay against France, they're simply in a better position, but against Austria and Turkey, it's not down to the players.
But they were only friendlies, so next year we'll continue sehen✌️
Of course, the last thing you wrote may also be a problem. They are only friendly matches. But well, it wasn't that good before.
I didn't say I know more about soccer than Nagelsmann. But fielding a phlegmatic Brandt together with a completely out of form Gnabry against a compact and strong Austrian midfield is questionable. Someone needs to explain to me why Gündogan is captain, what he shows on the pitch is outrageous. Havertz as a full-back is another stroke of genius. Strokes of genius wherever you look, maybe the coaches should understand that they shouldn't just line up by name but rather by ability for their own game. Club and national team soccer are two different things, many players are at big top clubs because they also benefit from their teammates and fit better into the system
Of course that's what you're telling me. You're completely doubting Nagelsmann's competence and telling me what he's doing wrong. I can just imagine you sitting in front of him and telling him that. Then you get out the magnetic board and draw him how it should actually be. If Germany had won 5:0, everything would have been ok. And what you say, club soccer and national team soccer are two different things.
Btw, every player benefits from his teammates. Even a Messi and a Ronaldo couldn't play alone against 11.
I think it also plays a part that these are only friendlies. What do the friendlies matter? The mentality problem, as Stromberg said, could also play a part.
Which you don't approve of but still support. To see your stars you just buy a subscription to Sky and support them. As I said, the thing with the cogwheel. I don't think doctors make a bad living either and earn good money. They won't be starving. I think this comparison with other professions is just nonsense and leads nowhere because everyone has a different view on it. I don't compare salespeople with footballers either. If you go by what you need and then classify what everyone should earn, firstly it's individual and secondly footballers should play for free.
Not to see my stars, to see the games I bet on (whether that's better or not remains to be seen...). For me, they are people like any other...
Of course doctors don't earn bad money either....
If you think it's normal and acceptable for a footballer to earn 100 million a year while others look to make ends meet or, in the worst case, can't even do that, then that's your opinion.
For me, this is a perversion of our society and the comparison is absolutely necessary.
But you're right, I should think about not supporting the whole thing any more...
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It's absolutely ok for me that they earn so much if it's possible. Everyone should get the maximum out of it if they can. And as you have just confirmed yourself, you are one of the reasons why this is possible. Even if you are only a very small cog in the whole thing. Take the cogs out and they no longer deserve it. The problem is that the cogs don't want to get out, so it's hard to understand why you can criticize something in terms of money when you're supporting it financially yourself.
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What a bunch of token footballers the Germans are, they can only play. Tip, heel, blah blah blah. They can't work at soccer, fight or put in 10% more bet
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I didn't mention anything about world champions either. While we're on the subject of who said what and who didn't. Donnie clearly communicated in his statement that Nagelsmann probably understands less than Donnie. For me, that indicates that he sees himself as more competent and thinks he will do a better job.
They're all great footballers on the pitch, but not enough for the world's best because, for example, a Füllkrug doesn't have the level of the world's best. But you don't have the material to do anything different. You can only hope that something will come along and the future will be better. That's what I think...
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Sure, you can't blame the players for taking what they get, no question. (It just becomes questionable in terms of character if you try to strike out because of the money or move to the most absurd leagues).
It really is a social problem that playing football is obviously worth more than saving lives as a doctor, caring for sick people as a nurse, etc.
But this doesn't just apply to football, but to "stars" in general.
Obviously, people are inherently predisposed to think that other people who are good at something are so great that they want them to sign their jerseys, buy the perfume they are promoting, follow them on social media, which in the end only drives up advertising salaries....
It's just a development in the world that I can't approve of 😄
And if the performance isn't even right, phew....
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Yes, the European Championship is coming and then you can show what you can do again... As I said, I think it's more of a mentality problem than a player problem. It's okay against France, they're simply in a better position, but against Austria and Turkey it's not down to the players.
But they were only friendlies, so next year we'll see sehen✌️
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I didn't say that I know more about soccer than Nagelsmann. But putting a phlegmatic Brandt together with a completely out-of-form Gnabry against a compact and strong Austrian midfield is questionable. Someone needs to explain to me why Gündogan is captain, what he shows on the pitch is outrageous. Havertz as a full-back is also a stroke of genius. Strokes of genius wherever you look, maybe the coaches should understand that they shouldn't just line up by name but rather by ability for their own game. Club and national team soccer are two different things, many players are at big top clubs because they also benefit from their teammates and fit better into the system
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Which you don't approve of but still support. To watch your stars, you just buy a subscription to Sky and support them. As I said, the thing with the cogwheel. I don't think doctors make a bad living either and earn good money. They won't be starving. I think this comparison with other professions is just nonsense and leads nowhere because everyone has a different view on it. I don't compare salespeople with footballers either. If you go by what you need and then classify what everyone should earn, firstly it's individual and secondly footballers should play for free.
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Of course, the last thing you wrote may also be a problem. They are only friendly matches. But well, it wasn't that good before.
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Of course that's what you're telling me. You're completely doubting Nagelsmann's competence and telling me what he's doing wrong. I can just imagine you sitting in front of him and telling him that. Then you get out the magnetic board and draw him how it should actually be. If Germany had won 5:0, everything would have been ok. And what you say, club soccer and national team soccer are two different things.
Btw, every player benefits from his teammates. Even a Messi and a Ronaldo couldn't play alone against 11.
I think it also plays a part that these are only friendlies. What do the friendlies matter? The mentality problem, as Stromberg said, could also play a part.
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Not to see my stars, to see the games I bet on (whether that's better or not remains to be seen...). For me, they are people like any other...
Of course doctors don't earn bad money either....
If you think it's normal and acceptable for a footballer to earn 100 million a year while others look to make ends meet or, in the worst case, can't even do that, then that's your opinion.
For me, this is a perversion of our society and the comparison is absolutely necessary.
But you're right, I should think about not supporting the whole thing any more...
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