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I would also like the overview. You can then see at a glance (without clicking on the tip) what the final result is and not just that the Tip worked out.
I would include information about the author on the analysis page. The wish has already been expressed to see statistics from the respective author.
Maybe before the blue info box (where it says when the event takes place) would be a good place for this. You could put things like: Average odds, number of tips submitted so far (e.g. 10), win rate (i.e. how many tips have been won in total, e.g. 3/10), current winning streak (e.g. 1/1) and possibly also "All tips" (all tips from the author would be shown here in chronological order).
The question is, however, whether my idea of where to put the whole thing would be well received by the other authors and readers and whether this effort is worthwhile for GUTS.
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And in the end it's a thread where the tipsters are happy about some statistics about how their own bets turned out!
That makes Andre more work than he already had before, I had already written back then when it started that Andre will take on posting a bet every day, let alone find the right choice of words every day!
You're bound to repeat yourself.
So for me it has become a fun thread for a few gamblejoemembers who had already mentioned their tips in the thread before!
Additional work for Andre and money for a few!
Maybe you should collect a few suggestions and rethink the whole thing and start from scratch, because it brings almost nothing .
If the analysis is correct, they say great research or who knows what, if it goes wrong they say that's sport.
It's enough if everyone posts their bets in the sports betting thread like they used to and that's that .
There the participation and the exchange was or is significantly higher than here . It requires less to no work for Andre and saves money!
Then Andre should rather start a sensible betting game as he has done recently and increase the price pool if Gamblejoe really wants to invest coins for the sports betting area.
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There could be a few more authors, but you should be careful here. Imagine there are 30 authors who post here regularly. Do you really want to read 20-30 every day? It's hard to keep track of them all. That would also be a lot more work for Andre, as he would always have to read and check the analyses. I'm not sure what a moderate number is, but I think around 10 active authors would be a good number. We're currently at 5 or so, so we're on the right track. I personally only write 1-2 tips a week, other authors write one Tip a day.
You can do such great research, sometimes things happen in sport that you don't plan for or didn't expect. For example BVB-PSG, PSG hadn't scored in only 2% of their games so far this season - what happens: they don't score against Dortmund. It was extremely unfortunate because they scored four times on aluminum, but that's just the way it is sometimes. Everyone who bets should know that. Regardless of whether the tips work out or not, it's just an assessment. None of us can have any influence on that.
Regarding the sports betting thread: it can quickly become confusing. You don't know how many tips were correct, discussions can go on for several pages, etc.
My experience with the prediction games: I took part in the end-of-season spurt and my experience was that there is a high Risk of disagreement in a group of 5. There were groups that agreed quickly, but also groups where everyone wanted to predict something different. My solution was to vote democratically. It worked well, even if some people didn't really agree with the voting. But it was the only way I could think of to vote fairly on the tip. It's just different minds and different opinions, so it's obvious somewhere.
I also took part in the 1st prediction game, where everyone could decide for themselves individually. The disadvantage here is the effort that Andre put in. Did I think it was better than the Endspurt competition? Not really. It was a nice change to play with other users. Both prediction games were good in themselves, although I wouldn't organize the 1st prediction game again because the effort involved is far too great.
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Not every Tip is interesting for everyone, so half of them are easily lost.
So we don't have that many comments and likes anyway.
@ GJ:
Are there any statistics on how many users / visitors access the betting site? Is that currently of any use?
What others have already mentioned here is, in my opinion, the biggest improvement option:
The overview and the betting profiles.
A betting profile, like on competitor sites. A statistic for each user with the number of games,
Average odds, hit rate, win/loss percentage, favorite sport, etc.
In other words, a complete profile that potential new GJ customers can follow.
Users and tips should be highlighted in the overview.
E.g. the user with the highest lifetime profit, the most profit in the current month,
the current best win series, the best user for soccer, basketball, etc.
Preferably with filter options.
And e.g. the sponsored "tip of the day", which Andre assumes will score and will therefore be highlighted on the overview page
highlighted on the overview page.
The GJ betting tips page would then have to be ranked highly in Google so that people searching for betting tips come to the
the betting tips page and can follow their favorite user and then register with a new provider.
The variant with 20 EUR for 3 correct bets in a row is nice and, as we have seen several times now, not as easy as it sounds
not as easy as it sounds. But without new customers, it doesn't really add any value for GJ, does it?
With more users / more turnover, you could award the coins depending on the percentage win per month or quarter.
So place 1, 2, 3 for example.
This way, everyone could play "their" odds and "their" bets with "their" bets, which should make the whole thing more successful.
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Yes, that's generally a problem that's difficult to solve. Soccer is just much more popular because it's more popular. That's nothing new. Then there are games that might not be interesting for some people because they don't follow the respective leagues. Without any statistics, I can tell you that the Bundesliga is the most popular. I don't really know the Bundesliga that well, roughly speaking, but I personally can't judge it as well as Serie A.
I wouldn't use these statistics for decisions, as they are misleading. We have them for every thread ("Views"). You can artificially increase them by pressing refresh (try it out) or if the same users are always here. It currently stands at 7k, but who knows how many views come from us. Easily 1-2k. The only statistics that are really useful are the Ref Link and the new registrations. Everything else is not reliable enough, unless GJ has statistics that have already removed exactly these parameters.
Sounds very good in itself, but also very sophisticated. Doesn't the Tipico app also have this function recently? So that you can follow people and retype their tips. I think there's also a scorer board.
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But it would be nice if there was one here.
I do think that GJ can call up the betting tips and filter the resulting ref link clickers. So I mean the overview page, not this thread.
It would be interesting to see how many new customers have been won as a result of the betting tips page since we started here, if GJ wants to publish this figure
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Yes, it's only been like this for a few weeks. But it's not a good solution because important statistics are missing, such as win rate or something. I think it's based on turnover, I don't know anymore.
Yes, I agree with you. Having your own betting profiles with statistics etc. sounds nice, but as I said, it all sounds mature and who knows whether GJ can go to this extra effort. It has to be worth it.
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. This "view" number is missing on the overview page and this value would not say much, as it can be manipulated. To be honest, I don't know if the refresh is a bug, but I noticed it at some point.
Yes, we don't even need the number itself, but only how many additional % it has become. So 10% more etc. Then they don't need to publish specific figures such as 300 registrations etc.
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In all the years I've been typing, almost none of the arguments you've mentioned apply!
I don't have a favorite typist or anything .
How much work should Andre do just so that 5-8 people can battle on a gamblejoe scoreboard? And then everyone has to read in the thread what a great tipper xy is!
You don't seriously think that because butterbrezel's stats are good, everyone is typing butterbrezel's stats?
Or because frapi was wrong 8 times they ignore his Tip?
Most of the bettors go by their own stats or gut feeling, there's no need for blubbo or rainmann.
You already have a battle at tippkick or something, that must be enough!
And if need be, Brezel can make his own statistics for the few figures, he's technically very knowledgeable!
So don't overdo it with statistics that don't interest most people except yourselves anyway!
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This wish came increasingly from several users/authors, not only from 1-2. That's why I also wrote that something like this seems very mature. But adding a few statistics that update themselves could be really good. Whether GJ does this and to what extent is up to them.
Yes, that's exactly how it is. I'm in a few groups and when someone wins a big combo, an incredible number of people demand that you post more and that you would like to go with them next time. Incredibly often. I don't want to take this too far, but it's really sick. Some even have their own groups where they make money with ref links and post their tickets just because they posted maybe 2-4 winning tickets.
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There are just enough stupid people who think someone with years of profit is posting their bets especially there is such an easy system to screw over many of these customers
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Yes, unfortunately true and if I'm right, then you mean that you send different people different results and then of course only show the winning ticket xD
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Good morning, I have just looked at the April 2024 commission report.
In the entire month we had 9 registrations in the sports betting area, including 2 new real money depositors and only earned a total of 70 euros.
Unfortunately, despite the huge community, hardly anyone registers with sports betting providers via our platform. We can only speculate as to the reason for this. In any case, the sports betting offer on GambleJoe is a loss-making business in every respect.
We do not generate any new traffic for our portal, nor do our users register anywhere that would generate any significant income, nor do we cover the costs for sports betting reviews, content writers or salaries.
So for months now, we have been pouring money directly into the sports betting sector from our casino revenue, which has also been declining, apparently without any prospect of success.
In fact, we now really need to think internally about whether and how we can make the sports betting segment lucrative in future...
because the topic of "sports betting on GambleJoe" was actually something of a test balloon - but at the moment everything is still open.
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That's pretty intense 😱
One reason will probably be that most of the listed bookies were already active and well-known before the regulation, so most users probably already had accounts there.
There were many more new bookies in the casino sector...
However, the fact that not even more traffic is being generated is quite disappointing and somehow confirms the opinions already expressed that probably only the few regular users in the sports betting area click through to the tips but no more than that...
It's a real shame, I have to say.
For 70 euros, Andre probably can't even release and evaluate the tips that come together in a month🙈
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Yes, I can only agree with Stromberg. You have been registered with most of them and I personally only use 1-2 providers (Tipico & Betano).
I think one of the main reasons will be that the content was almost exclusively casino-related for years. Accordingly, sports enthusiasts are on the move elsewhere. Facebook groups, Telegram groups etc.
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