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Sports betting in general: General sports betting thread 2021 (Page 396)

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u****n

General sports betting thread 2021

20th Jun. 2021, at 08:53 pm CEST#4000
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Blubbo33 wrote on 20.06.2021 at 20:49
I throw them in the garbage, the only thing where you could be right is that from the 75 min. no one goes full risk. Have not seen a game where both close a non-attack pact

There is too much at stake. And to wait 75 minutes is too risky. And I even say that both want to win the game.

Oh, I was already too late. Thanks for your opinion, we will see. For me it looks like a non-aggression pact, just because there is so much at stake

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Jubla2014
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20th Jun. 2021, at 09:03 pm CEST#4001
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Servus!


I actually did not want to interfere in the disputes regarding the game Germany against Portugal, but still my assessment:
As much as I was happy about the victory of my motherland and homeland, because totally unexpected, but neutrally considered, it must be said quite clearly that Portugal is already very superior to the Germans in terms of soccer and technically.
But through our typical characteristics, such as fight, commitment, aggressiveness and willingness to run, we usually make up for technical deficits.
Let me give you an example:
Thomas Müller.
The boy often can't even receive the ball properly, but he has the incredible ability to anticipate things.
I've seen him in countless games, I've been to many training sessions at Säbener Straße.
He definitely can't play soccer.

We have never been the best in terms of play and technique, and we never will be.
Actually totally incomprehensible, because the DFB has about 7.1 million members, we have over 3 million active footballers.
We have never had a player like Iniesta, Modric or Pirlo.
I can actually only think of Scholl, whose technique was above average.
I have to agree with @unicorn about one thing:
From a purely footballing point of view, Portugal is one or even 2 classes better.
But anyway, we won, which makes me very proud.

Sorry for this long post.


Stay healthy!

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B****3

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20th Jun. 2021, at 09:16 pm CEST#4002
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I see that totally different, technically the German team is even very high quality, overall, they don't have these exceptional talents, but for that the whole team is technically on a very high level. And that's the advantage of the German in addition to the typical virtues.

Neuer technically the best goalkeeper
Hummels, slow but technically brilliant
Kroos, often lacks the will to fight, but one of the best technicians in Germany. Gündugan, sane, gnabry, goretzka, havertz etc.

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u****n

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20th Jun. 2021, at 09:17 pm CEST#4003
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Jubla2014 wrote on 20.06.2021 at 21:03: Servus!


I didn't really want to get involved in the arguments regarding the Germany vs Portugal game, but still my assessment:
As much as I was happy about the victory of my motherland and homeland, because totally unexpected, but neutrally considered, it must be said quite clearly that Portugal is already very superior to the Germans in terms of soccer and technically.
But through our typical characteristics, such as fight, commitment, aggressiveness and willingness to run, we usually make up for technical deficits.
Let me give you an example:
Thomas Müller.
The boy often can't even receive the ball properly, but he has the incredible ability to anticipate things.
I've seen him in countless games, I've been to many training sessions at Säbener Straße.
He definitely can't play soccer.

We have never been the best in terms of play and technique, and we never will be.
Actually totally incomprehensible, because the DFB has about 7.1 million members, we have over 3 million active footballers.
We have never had a player like Iniesta, Modric or Pirlo.
I can actually only think of Scholl, whose technique was above average.
I have to agree with @unicorn about one thing:
From a purely footballing point of view, Portugal is one or even 2 classes better.
But anyway, we won, which makes me very proud.

Sorry for this long post.


Stay healthy!

That's the way it looks. And Gosens in particular embodied the German virtues like no other and alone decided the game, even though the others didn't do too badly either. For me, German soccer lately has been characterized by sleeper soccer without commitment and will, which is why I had the impression it would go on like this. The more we have such personalities who show heart and passion, the better other deficits can be compensated

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B****3

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20th Jun. 2021, at 09:44 pm CEST#4004
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You won't win a world championship just by fighting
You have to have a high level of everything
And Germany has always been quite well staffed in that respect

It's better to have several good technicians than just one above-average one.

Beckenbauer, Netzer, Matthäus, Klose, etc.

The overall picture is decisive, of course you can also win by fighting, but I still need good players to beat a good team

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Olli_Eule
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20th Jun. 2021, at 09:54 pm CEST#4005
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unicorn wrote on 20/06/2021 at 21:17
That's the way it looks. And Gosens in particular embodied the German virtues like no other and alone decided the game, even if the others didn't do badly either. For me, German soccer lately has been characterized by sleeper soccer without commitment and will, which is why I had the impression it would go on like this. The more we have such personalities, who show heart and passion, the better other deficits can be compensated.

do you mean by passion that some players only play because they get money for it and a bonus?

There are only two possibilities: either it's about money or passion for the German team.

The stupid thing is that the substitutes who don't play a single game get just as much bonus as those who bust their asses on the pitch.

But of course, if the substitute players, would get less money than the regular players, then they also think, why should I go first, if I hardly see coal

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u****n

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20th Jun. 2021, at 10:12 pm CEST#4006
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himmel80 wrote on 20.06.2021 at 21:54
do you mean by passion that some players only play because they get money for it and a bonus?

There are only these two possibilities, either it's about money or passion for the German team.

The stupid thing is that the substitutes who don't play a single game get just as much bonus as the ones who bust their asses on the pitch.

But of course, if the substitute players, less coal would get than the regular players, then they also think, why should I go first, if I hardly see coal

I think no one plays in the German national team because he wants to earn something in addition. For that, the players are already paid enough by their clubs and nobody will depend on the additional bonus. You are there to represent your country in a worthy way and to give everything for it. You should see it as an honor to be there, whether as a substitute or a regular. And really no one will waste a single thought on the bonus, let alone be there just for the bonus. In the best case scenario, each player will not earn more than one additional month's salary

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Olli_Eule
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20th Jun. 2021, at 10:21 pm CEST#4007
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unicorn wrote on 20.06.2021 at 22:12
I don't think anyone plays in the German national team because they want to earn something extra. Players are already paid enough for that by their clubs and no one will depend on the extra bonus. You are there to represent your country in a worthy manner and to give everything for it. You should see it as an honor to be there, whether as a substitute or a regular. And really no one will waste a single thought on the bonus, let alone be there just for the bonus. In the best case, there will be no more than one additional monthly salary for each player

400,000 for winning the title. In former times there were 1290 D-Mark and a television
LOL.... there we see where Germany has landed

But you are right for the bissle Tip, the players do not care, with millions earned in the clubs

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Xavi22
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20th Jun. 2021, at 10:24 pm CEST#4008
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Sorry guys, but I think you all know a little bit about soccer.
And you should know that it's not always the team that wins, where the players can hold the ball up longer or handle the ball better. Technique is only a small part of the whole.
And that everyone can be wrong sometimes and that some analyses are good or not so good is also clear. The discussion is also crucial in the end and can open some people's eyes.
Italy I would not have typed after the lineups, it came anyway.
Turkey I was typing X2 again and again and it did not come, happens.

About the Germany game:
For me Germany was clearly better, we deserved to win and were better in almost all respects. I am also convinced that we would win again against them, if they get on. In my opinion, the French win that against the 🇵🇹

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Jubla2014
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20th Jun. 2021, at 10:43 pm CEST#4009
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@Blubbo33

Please try to see this objectively.

We have always come mostly through the struggle.
The 1954, 1990 and 2014 World Cups we could only win by a lot, a lot of luck, we mostly only came via the fight.
2014 is still relatively fresh in our memory:
A great group game against Portugal and an unbelievable semifinal against Brazil, that was it.
You should never have won against Ghana, the USA, Algeria and France, or drawn against Ghana.
Even in the final you were worse than Argentina.
Symbol: Basti Schweinsteiger with a bleeding wound, a tireless fighter.

European champion in 1980 and 1996.
Super, but how did you muddle through?
in 1996, the quarterfinals against Croatia, which you should never win.

Only the 1974 World Cup and the 1972 European Championship were good games.

Our results have always been great and successful, but you also have to consider the how.

I don't want to talk badly about our performances then and now, but we have always lacked the playing class.

And the fact that we have millions of active footballers, and therefore we have completely different possibilities than other nations, the result of good technicians is much too negative.
Not a single one stands out, unfortunately.
Kroos, in your eyes one of the best, has for years been only a little light at Real compared to Luka, although the latter is already 35.
As much as you can discuss the persona non grata Özil, technically very good.
But he also sought the wide at Real when Luka moved from Spurs to Madrid, I think half a year later.
Ergo: no chance of a regular place.

For sure we have some solid technicians, but for the abundance of available "material" much, much too little.

It doesn't matter, because our squad already has enormous potential, dynamic, fast, robust and determined.
But a feast for the eyes for someone like me, who loves technical cabinet pieces, it is not and never will be.


Nevertheless
I hope that we will get far. Maybe we'll get the title.

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