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Sports betting in general: Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

Topic created on 24th Feb. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 18 | Views: 2,698
Carmelo
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

24th Feb. 2024, at 01:37 pm CET#1
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Assuming the limit is exhausted and I now want to hand in a ticket and go to a Tipico branch, let's say: Do they only check whether I am blocked or do they also see that the limit has been used up? Do they check the limit database? I always ask myself how they can see how much I put into the machine there and how they want to enter it into the database? Surely nobody can check that? Many people here play at the betting machine.

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R3hab
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

24th Feb. 2024, at 02:25 pm CET#2
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You have a customer card with which you register beforehand, after depositing the money you are asked whether you want to Deposit the money into your account, so it's easy to track

Can you still bet anonymously offline? I don't think that's possible anymore

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Langhans_innen
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

24th Feb. 2024, at 02:43 pm CET#3
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Is this still related to your "Euro 2024 project", where - if I remember correctly - you want to bet €1,000 on two (?) sure-fire matches each, as you reported last year in September?

https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/sportwetten/allgemeines/einsatz-verlustlimit-bei-sportwetten-360846/#p360846

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Carmelo
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

24th Feb. 2024, at 02:43 pm CET#4
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Of course it works. The Tipico head office has said that they are obliged to issue a card from 2000 euros turnover, but here in my town people gamble without a card, just with a piece of paper. Even the employees only vaguely know when you have to issue a card. So I would rather say that they don't know at all.

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R3hab
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

24th Feb. 2024, at 02:54 pm CET#5
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Carmelo wrote on 24.02.2024 at 14:43: Of course you can. The Tipico head office has said that they are obliged to issue a KK from 2000 euros turnover, but here in my city people gamble without a card only with a slip of paper. Even the employees only vaguely know when you have to issue a card. So I would rather say that they don't know at all.


Here you're not allowed in without a card haha so something's wrong in your store


That can't be that you have to have one with us and you can just bet with you

So either the parts are manipulated or the boss is a zero checker and hasn't implemented any of the new rules

I also always use a foreign card to bet and can't bet without one

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Carmelo
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

11th Mar. 2024, at 06:27 pm CET#6
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What I don't understand is: If I have a limit of €2000 and this has been used up with an online betting Provider (Bwin) and I now want to go to Tipico, has the limit been used up or not? Because the cross-provider limit at bwin is 2000,- .... What is the limit in the store? 1000€ or not? Are you still allowed to play or not?

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Butterbrezel
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

11th Mar. 2024, at 06:34 pm CET#7
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Carmelo wrote on 11.03.2024 at 18:27: What I don't understand is: If I have a limit of 2000€ and this is used up at an online betting Provider (Bwin) and I now want to go to Tipico, is the limit now used up or not? Because the cross-provider limit at bwin is 2000,- .... What is the limit in the store? 1000€ or not? Are you still allowed to play or not?

Just try the Tipico store you trust.

If it doesn't work for any LUGAS reasons, the betting shop employee will tell you. And if the bet goes through, then it goes through.


Why is the "preliminary" clarification so important for you?

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Langhans_innen
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

11th Mar. 2024, at 08:40 pm CET#8
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I'm afraid that by the time you've at least theoretically dealt with your office matters relating to betting on Euro 24, the final will have long since been whistled off

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Carmelo
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

13th Mar. 2024, at 07:16 am CET#9
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Why is this so important to know? Because a higher limit can be requested online at bwin, but nobody knows what the limit is in the stationary stores. If I have spent 2000 at bwin, i.e. the full limit, but a 1000 euro limit applies in Germany. I don't understand this! Normally the bwin limit should also apply in stores! Tipico takes money and if you win, the employee calls customer service, who has to clarify everything first. In the end you get your depositor back if you are unlucky. But before that you may have already put thousands on the table. What exactly is the limit... or is there no limit in stores? They don't say anything. They only make a fuss when you win

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Stromberg
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

13th Mar. 2024, at 08:21 am CET#10
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Carmelo wrote on 13.03.2024 at 07:16: Why is this so important to know? Because a higher limit can be requested online at bwin, but nobody knows what the limit is in the stationary stores. If I have spent 2000 at bwin, i.e. the full limit, but a 1000 euro limit applies in Germany. I don't understand this! Normally the bwin limit should also apply in stores! Tipico takes money and if you win, the employee calls customer service, who has to clarify everything first. In the end you get your depositor back if you are unlucky. But before that you may have already put thousands on the table. What exactly is the limit... or is there no limit in stores? They don't say anything. Only when you win do they make a fuss

It's amazing how difficult it is to find an answer...

Some sites say that the limit only applies to online offers. Others say it applies to online offers and gambling halls.
I can't find anything about betting shops...

If you want a definite answer, use this contact form...

https://www.gluecksspiel-behoerde.de/de/kontakt

When I made an inquiry on a Saturday, I actually received an answer straight away on Monday morning. Unbelievable but true.

There are a lot of arcade goers here, how does that work?

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T0uchTheSky
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

13th Mar. 2024, at 08:29 am CET#11
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Ask the needle, he is a permanent guest at Asian restaurants and amusement arcades

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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

13th Mar. 2024, at 09:26 am CET#12
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Carmelo wrote on 13.03.2024 at 07:16: Why is this so important to know? Because a higher limit can be requested online at bwin, but nobody knows what the limit is in the stationary stores. If I have spent 2000 at bwin, i.e. the full limit, but a 1000 euro limit applies in Germany. I don't understand this! Normally the bwin limit should also apply in stores! Tipico takes money and if you win, the employee calls customer service, who has to clarify everything first. In the end you get your depositor back if you are unlucky. But before that you may have already put thousands on the table. What exactly is the limit... or is there no limit in stores? They don't say anything. They only make a fuss when you win

There's no limit in offline arcades either, maybe there's no limit at all offline and they just make a fuss because they don't want to pay

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follieror

Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

15th Mar. 2024, at 07:02 am CET#13
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I absolutely agree with you that the fact that nobody knows the exact betting limits in fixed betting shops is a serious problem.

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Carmelo
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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

26th Apr. 2024, at 04:36 pm CEST#14
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The way I see it, there can be several limits for players. Although these are entered in the limit file, they do not provide any protection for the player.

I have an online betting account with Tipico. Limit: 3000 euros.
Now I have a customer card in the store for Bet3000: I can gamble online with the customer card. I have increased the limit from 1000 to 3000 euros.

So I can practically gamble away 6000 euros?

No one understands this. I thought you only have one limit that applies everywhere. I maxed out the limit online and then got a new customer card in the store (limit was practically 0) and was then allowed to use another 1000 euros.

If I went to another betting store now, I would have another 1000 euros. Right?

As the limit applies to all providers, you can have your limit increased at several providers and have far more to play with than you want to lose (if you didn't have it under control)

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Betting office: Are there limits according to the LUGAS file?

27th Apr. 2024, at 09:11 am CEST#15
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Carmelo wrote on 26.04.2024 at 16:36: The way I see it, there can be several limits for players. These are entered in the limit file, but do not provide any protection for the player.

I have an online betting account with Tipico. Limit: 3000 euros.
Now I have a customer card in the store for Bet3000: I can gamble online with the customer card. I have increased the limit from 1000 to 3000 euros.

So I can practically gamble away 6000 euros?

No one understands this. I thought you only have one limit that applies everywhere. I used up the limit online and then got a new customer card in the store (limit was practically 0) and was then allowed to use another 1000 euros.

If I went to another betting store now, I would have another 1000 euros. Right?

Since the limit applies to all providers, you can have the limit increased at several providers and have far more to play with than you want to lose (if you didn't have it under control)

I would say: no

You Deposit €1000 at Tipico and gamble it away. Your betting limit for the month has been reached. You can't deposit anything more at bet3000 or anywhere else except Tipico, as you can gamble 3000€ with them.

That's how I interpret it, but who knows if it's correct.

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