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Deposit and withdrawal methods: Santander puts account on hold - help please (Page 4)

Topic created on 16th Aug. 2024 | Page: 4 of 10 | Answers: 136 | Views: 5,871
frapi07
Elite

Chriiiis wrote on 20.08.2024 at 19:58: I'm telling you, when the whole spook is over I'll never do anything over the account again!!!!!

Then I'll just sell the cryptos privately or buy vouchers online and go shopping with the money...... .

i hope everything works out in the end.

Look on the bright side, because it could have been worse for you. Imagine if this had been your first account... you would have had to send a SEPA direct debit mandate to each individual again and otherwise inform them of the new account number.

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Chriiiis
Rookie
Who knows what's in store for me...... illegal gambling, undeclared wins at the office... write to you soon from jail...

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JJepsa96
Rookie

Baccarat_Natural_9 wrote on 20.08.2024 at 20:06: A few years ago I had the same problem with the Städtische Sparkasse. I went there and had to speak to the branch manager. In the end, nothing happened, but I canceled the account myself and since then I have only deposited money into the online casino with Paysafecard credit, which I buy anonymously at the gas station or supermarket. In the meantime, I have also ordered a debit card from Paysafe and use this MasterCard to transfer my online wins to it. So far (toi toi toi) this has worked very well. The card can be used to top up a balance of up to EUR 5,000 and the good thing is that you can also use the card to withdraw cash directly from ATMs. I wouldn't make a single online casino transaction with a normal bank.

But with DE licensed bookmakers or casinos, there shouldn't be any problems with the bank either. Everything is legal then.

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gamble1
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Chriiiis wrote on 20.08.2024 at 20:24: Who knows what's coming to me...... illegal gambling, not stated wins at the office... write to you soon from jail...


Now don't panic at which office did you not report wins?

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Chriiiis
Rookie
Jobcenter. Unfortunately I'm on sick leave, early retired, hardly any money... I was always happy that at least some money came in from time to time, I never thought about doing something illegal

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frapi07
Elite
Chriiiis wrote on 20.08.2024 at 22:05: Jobcenter. Unfortunately I am on sick leave, early retiree, hardly any money... was always happy that at least some money comes in from time to time, never thought about the fact that I could do something forbidden


I think the note was already there, so your conversation didn't make anything worse, but... if you're living in such circumstances, why would you want to Risk something like that coming out with a conversation... I really wouldn't say anything more about it. Try to get a lawyer, tell him the truth and then he will be able to offer some solutions.

The authorities are not to be trifled with and there is a real risk that you will get into a lot of trouble. I don't know if you receive social benefit or other benefits.

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Chriiiis
Rookie
Well what does risking a conversation mean I have to communicate with the bank somehow, or should I give up my money? if that comes out then it's like this... Do I have to bear the consequences for it

I have written to a lawyer, I quote


Dear Mr. *****

thank you for your message. Unfortunately, we are currently unable to accept new mandates for capacity reasons. I am sorry not to be able to give you any other information. However, it is important to us to provide you with the best possible tips and advice on how to proceed, which you can do without us and therefore without incurring any costs. If the information is helpful to you, I would be very pleased to receive a positive review . Please do not mention in the evaluation that the advice was provided free of charge; legal advice is generally subject to a fee.

We are therefore happy to provide you with the following information and tips:

In the event of an account blocking, related severe delays and/or lack of information from your bank, you should contact the management board of your bank. Write a letter addressed to the board of directors, describing your circumstances in brief and requesting a review. You can find the address of the bank's board of directors on your bank's website under "Imprint". We generally recommend maintaining a polite tone, even if a blocked account can understandably be very stressful. Experience has shown that it can take some time to hear back from them.

If you do not receive a positive response from the bank manager, or if you do not receive a response at all, you can take the following steps yourself without having to instruct a lawyer:

1. Complain to the ombudsman of the banking association

You can apply for proceedings via this ombudsman's office. Describe the circumstances of your problems with the bank and ask for a review and mediation. Information and the specific procedure for such a procedure can be found here:

https://bankenombudsmann.de/

Ombudsman proceedings serve the purpose of consumer protection by settling disputes between disputing parties without the need for cost-intensive court proceedings. An ombudsman is an arbitrator with extensive practical experience in the relevant area of law - in this case banking law.

2. Complaint to the Federal Financial Supervisory Authority (BaFin)

As the financial supervisory authority, BaFin is responsible for monitoring and regulating the banking sector. It also checks compliance with statutory regulations by all banks with a German full banking license, including your bank. Any unresolved account blockages can be easily reported to BaFin. Experience has shown that BaFin will then want to consult with your bank, which can and will put additional pressure on your bank. Information and the specific procedure for contacting BaFin can be found here:

https://www.bafin.de/DE/Verbraucher/BeschwerdenStreitschlichtung/BeiBaFinbeschweren/BeiBaFinbeschweren_node.html

You must be prepared for several weeks of processing time by these authorities. In our experience, however, you will always receive an answer.

In the meantime, a personal appointment with your bank's customer advisor could be useful. It may be easier to unblock an account in a direct conversation than by telephone, email or letter. This option is only available to a limited extent at so-called neobanks, or unfortunately not at all in some cases due to the lack of a branch network.

If you find this information helpful, I would be delighted to receive a positive review at . Please do not mention in the evaluation that the advice was provided free of charge; legal advice is generally subject to a fee.

Thank you in advance for your efforts and all the best for the future.






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frapi07
Elite
Yeah sure, you can communicate with the bank, but you wanted to tell them the truth in the hope that they would let you off with a black eye... that's what I don't understand. They don't care about you at the end of the day. They have to do their jobs and they certainly aren't risking their jobs just to do you a favor. There's hardly any humanity here. Deadline expired? Tough luck.

Okay, unfortunately the news doesn't read well. The only thing that will help is a lawyer + a temporary injunction. Then you won't have to wait months for them to release your money.

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Chriiiis
Rookie
I'll wait and see what comes out of it. maybe the bank is just annoyed by the crypto transfers, they don't like that, they like to cause stress. i'll wait a week for an answer, just like they told me in the branch

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frapi07
Elite

Chriiiis wrote on 20.08.2024 at 22:26: I'll wait and see what comes out of it. maybe the bank is just annoyed by the crypto transfers, they don't like that, they like to cause stress. i'm waiting a week for an answer, s o as they promised me in the branch

Unfortunately, I don't think so. You wrote that they confirmed your suspicion of money laundering on the phone. I've already explained to you that I was given the wrong information in a savings bank branch and I got the right information on the phone at the "main branch" of my savings bank and was able to resolve the problem over the phone. At the branch I went to, there was nothing in the system.

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Chriiiis
Rookie
I think you have misunderstood something, NO ONE has confirmed the suspicion of money laundering to me. I was told on the phone that at least there was no suspicion of money laundering (in response to my question) because they would probably see it.

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frapi07
Elite

Chriiiis wrote on 20.08.2024 at 23:38: I think you have misunderstood something, NO ONE has confirmed to me the suspicion of money laundering. I was told on the phone that at least there was no suspicion of money laundering (in response to my question) because they would probably see it.

But that's not what you wrote earlier... I quote: " But why did they tell me on the phone today, for example, that there was a suspicion of money laundering in the account, which is not the case with me?"

As I understand it, you called again today and were told on the phone that there was a suspicion of money laundering. If that's wrong, then you wrote it wrong.

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Chriiiis
Rookie
Sorry it should be "none". I have a new keyboard, which sometimes swallows letters.... So I was told on the phone that there was no entry, and if something like that was in the room it would usually be there.

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gamble1
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Chriiiis wrote on 20.08.2024 at 23:59: Sorry it should be "no". Have a new keyboard, which sometimes swallows letters.... So I was told on the phone that you don't have an entry, and if something like that was in the room it would usually be there.

Then it's something else again, but you can't assume that anyone has been notified yet


As frapi07 already wrote, the head offices usually have the right information and are actually the ones who pass everything on to the branch offices

Nowadays, they have handed everything over to the head office, it's not like in the past where your bank advisor could quickly give you a "home loan" from their own vault everything is collected and sent to the head office where decisions are made on all issues

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frapi07
Elite
Chriiiis wrote on 20.08.2024 at 23:59: Sorry it should be "no". Have a new keyboard, which sometimes swallows letters.... So I was told on the phone that you don't have an entry, and if something like that was in the room it would usually be there.

The sentence still doesn't really make sense with "no" instead of "one", because the end "which it doesn't do for me" would be superfluous. Hope you understand what I mean, if not, read the sentence like this:

But why did they tell me on the phone today, for example, that no suspicion of money laundering would be in the account, which it doesn't do for me?


In any case, if that is the case, then just wait and see. Ultimately, you decide how to deal with it, not us. We can only give you suggestions, nothing more, and whether you follow them is up to you.

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