And what do you mean by wait and see? until I get a letter? I'm really at a loss right now, especially as I'm an early retiree due to my illnesses and can't afford a lawyer
Chriiiis wrote on 17.08.2024 at 13:34: And how do you know that the bank won't release it 100%? it could just be a check.... I've read a lot on google now and in some cases it was enough if you prove where the money comes from. I don't even know why it's frozen, should I contact a lawyer directly?
Do your own research. You won't find any lawyers in the forum. In addition, dazzle_tea (who deleted himself) also shared his own experience with you and gave you good tips.
They don't freeze accounts just like that - you need to be aware of that. Have you ever had your account frozen because of a check?
Yes, if you received the money legitimately, then proof is sufficient. But it probably won't be enough here.
You can go there on Monday and ask why. If they tell you and you are accused of money laundering, then I would advise you to get a lawyer. However, I wouldn't comment on the incident, you won't be able to do much about it, at least according to my own research.
Chriiiis wrote on 17.08.2024 at 13:35: And what do you mean by wait and see? until I get a letter? I'm really at a loss right now, especially as I'm an early pensioner due to my illnesses and can't afford a lawyer
Yes, until they get in touch. Whether by post or by phone. An application to for a temporary injunction costs around €100 or so. You may be able to do it without a lawyer, but I would advise you to do it because they can also advise you and not just make applications.
then here https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/bankkonto-wegen-online-casinos-gesperrt-49007/4/ the "anonymous user"
and a few others if you google them, I think it makes sense to talk to the advisor, the banks just want to protect themselves, otherwise they could pay high penalties during audits. Not everything is immediately reported to the police....
i really want to ask you to stay positive, otherwise you can commit me directly !!!
Chriiiis wrote on 16.08.2024 at 22:23: Hello I have been playing for years on a cryptocasino site (s...e) and regularly let me pay out 1-3,000€ last I had a turnover of about 10-15000€ i.e. sometimes 5000 in sometimes 7 out.... the payouts then looked like this 2000 then 3000 then 1500....
now i couldn't do anything with my account, i called and they said i had to go to the branch and they weren't allowed to tell me anything. . now of course the fear, I assume that they want to check if there is money laundering (last week e.g. 5 times 1000€ transferred to Binance in one evening (Binance is not illegal!) otherwise no money from any casinos received on the account.
How do I proceed now?
i'm totally scared, especially as there's still €4000 in the account...Can they keep it?
Thank you
And you wrote that you don't have enough money for a lawyer!
You should really think about it and set priorities!
You don't have to hire Lenssen and Partner right away, a normal one only costs a few hundred, they should probably be available if you're pushing a few thousand back and forth!!!?
I just wonder why some say (also in other forums) take the bank interview and others say directly I am with 1 leg in jail and should directly take a lawyer
although the bank hasn't even said that they suspect I've been money laundering or something similar, the lady on the phone couldn't tell me anything about what was going on.
Chriiiis wrote on 17.08.2024 at 13:59: Here, for example, was a case where the person's account was also frozen without information, she got it afterwards after a clarification
then here https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/bankkonto-wegen-online-casinos-gesperrt-49007/4/ the "anonymous user"
and a few others if you google them, I think it makes sense to talk to the advisor, the banks just want to protect themselves, otherwise they could pay high penalties during audits. Not everything is immediately reported to the police....
i really want to ask you to stay positive, otherwise you can commit me directly !!!
1. Case: no, her account was terminated without notice. Where do you read that she got the account back? In addition, she has not provided any more updates, i.e. you don't know whether she has received a report (you get the information weeks/months later). I don't understand why you're using this as a reference case.
2. Case: It's also meaningless. He hardly writes any information and that's supposed to give you certainty that it's the same for you? There's so much information missing.
We don't say that it has to turn out like this, but that it's highly likely. So prepare yourself for it. It's better to be mentally prepared for the worst-case scenario. You'll know what to do and won't be so panicky.
Chriiiis wrote on 17.08.2024 at 14:19: mh, yes, I probably just want to hear that everything will be fine... but it certainly will. I'll go to the bank on Monday and ask what's going on first.
Right, that's all you can do at the moment and whether you want to tell them the truth or not is up to you.
I wouldn't make any statements about it.
You can give us an update on Monday as to whether they've said anything about it, how you've acted and what your next steps are.
XD Gamblers go to jail^^ There's not enough capacity for that. In addition, I have never read anywhere that there was a prison sentence. So it would be a novelty At most there was a fine - if you don't pay it, you can actually end up in prison, but otherwise rather not.
Your account will probably be terminated and charges filed, but nothing more. So, everything you've already found out. Don't worry about it.
Even if you don't pay, you won't go straight to jail, always spreading this half-knowledge.
Politicians in Germany have been campaigning for years to get around the bad reputation with the threat of imprisonment and to hold debtors accountable accordingly.
Therefore, payment in installments or, if not possible at all, the possibility is offered to work off the fine, e.g. by reducing it with community service, only those who still do not react will spend their daily rates in prison.
Chriiiis wrote on 17.08.2024 at 13:35: And what do you mean by wait and see? until the post arrives? I'm really at a loss right now, especially as I'm early retired due to my illnesses and can't afford a lawyer
You're also gambling to a great extent. A consultation with a lawyer doesn't cost the earth and I would have a conversation with the bank and listen to what it's all about. You'll then see whether you say anything or not.
btssultan wrote on 17.08.2024 at 19:03:
Even if you don't pay you don't go straight to jail, always spreading this half knowledge.
Politicians in Germany have been trying for years through campaigns to circumvent the bad reputation with the threat of imprisonment and to hold debtors responsible accordingly.
Therefore, payment in installments or, if not possible at all, the possibility is offered to work off the fine, e.g. by reducing it with community service, only those who still do not react will spend their daily rates in prison.
I didn't write that you go straight to jail if you don't pay directly, but that you can go to jail for it. A small but subtle difference.
Of course you can agree installments. Some fines can't be paid in one go, e.g. if you get €50 for 30 daily rates, that's already €1500. Not everyone can pay such a bill in one go.
Nevertheless, this does not change my statement and this is certainly not half-knowledge. In the worst case, you go to jail, regardless of whether you refuse to pay the fine or you can't pay the fine. If you ignore it or don't take care of it, then it gets uncomfortable. I think for a maximum of 6 months (not a 100% statement) - unless you provide a statement of assets or pay the sum in one go (e.g. acquaintances). I once read that someone refused to pay the GEZ fees. He also didn't want to sign a statement of assets. He then had to go to prison for 6 months, after which he was released, if I remember correctly.
On the other hand, the banks are also not allowed to say when they have sent out a suspicious activity report.
i have just contacted the online advice center of caritas, because I am unsure about the lawyer's fees, unfortunately I am in dire straits.... I can't get the money.
Otherwise I'm thinking about buying this lawyer's letter for €9.99
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Do your own research. You won't find any lawyers in the forum. In addition, dazzle_tea (who deleted himself) also shared his own experience with you and gave you good tips.
They don't freeze accounts just like that - you need to be aware of that. Have you ever had your account frozen because of a check?
Yes, if you received the money legitimately, then proof is sufficient. But it probably won't be enough here.
You can go there on Monday and ask why. If they tell you and you are accused of money laundering, then I would advise you to get a lawyer. However, I wouldn't comment on the incident, you won't be able to do much about it, at least according to my own research.
Yes, until they get in touch. Whether by post or by phone. An application to for a temporary injunction costs around €100 or so. You may be able to do it without a lawyer, but I would advise you to do it because they can also advise you and not just make applications.
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https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/bankkonto-gesperrt-ohne-auskunft-374200/
then here https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/bankkonto-wegen-online-casinos-gesperrt-49007/4/ the "anonymous user"
and a few others if you google them, I think it makes sense to talk to the advisor, the banks just want to protect themselves, otherwise they could pay high penalties during audits. Not everything is immediately reported to the police....
i really want to ask you to stay positive, otherwise you can commit me directly !!!
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And you wrote that you don't have enough money for a lawyer!
You should really think about it and set priorities!
You don't have to hire Lenssen and Partner right away, a normal one only costs a few hundred, they should probably be available if you're pushing a few thousand back and forth!!!?
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I just wonder why some say (also in other forums) take the bank interview and others say directly I am with 1 leg in jail and should directly take a lawyer
although the bank hasn't even said that they suspect I've been money laundering or something similar, the lady on the phone couldn't tell me anything about what was going on.
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1. Case: no, her account was terminated without notice. Where do you read that she got the account back? In addition, she has not provided any more updates, i.e. you don't know whether she has received a report (you get the information weeks/months later). I don't understand why you're using this as a reference case.
2. Case: It's also meaningless. He hardly writes any information and that's supposed to give you certainty that it's the same for you? There's so much information missing.
We don't say that it has to turn out like this, but that it's highly likely. So prepare yourself for it. It's better to be mentally prepared for the worst-case scenario. You'll know what to do and won't be so panicky.
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Right, that's all you can do at the moment and whether you want to tell them the truth or not is up to you.
I wouldn't make any statements about it.
You can give us an update on Monday as to whether they've said anything about it, how you've acted and what your next steps are.
In any case, I wish you all the best for Monday.
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Even if you don't pay, you won't go straight to jail, always spreading this half-knowledge.
Politicians in Germany have been campaigning for years to get around the bad reputation with the threat of imprisonment and to hold debtors accountable accordingly.
Therefore, payment in installments or, if not possible at all, the possibility is offered to work off the fine, e.g. by reducing it with community service, only those who still do not react will spend their daily rates in prison.
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You're also gambling to a great extent. A consultation with a lawyer doesn't cost the earth and I would have a conversation with the bank and listen to what it's all about. You'll then see whether you say anything or not.
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I didn't write that you go straight to jail if you don't pay directly, but that you can go to jail for it. A small but subtle difference.
Of course you can agree installments. Some fines can't be paid in one go, e.g. if you get €50 for 30 daily rates, that's already €1500. Not everyone can pay such a bill in one go.
Nevertheless, this does not change my statement and this is certainly not half-knowledge. In the worst case, you go to jail, regardless of whether you refuse to pay the fine or you can't pay the fine. If you ignore it or don't take care of it, then it gets uncomfortable. I think for a maximum of 6 months (not a 100% statement) - unless you provide a statement of assets or pay the sum in one go (e.g. acquaintances). I once read that someone refused to pay the GEZ fees. He also didn't want to sign a statement of assets. He then had to go to prison for 6 months, after which he was released, if I remember correctly.
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But there would probably be no suspicion of money laundering as that would be noted.
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Maybe an account seizure? Do you have any debts or have you not paid any taxes? GEZ/KFZ something like that...
But let's hope that the suspicion of money laundering really isn't confirmed, then you've been extremely lucky.
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On the other hand, the banks are also not allowed to say when they have sent out a suspicious activity report.
i have just contacted the online advice center of caritas, because I am unsure about the lawyer's fees, unfortunately I am in dire straits.... I can't get the money.
Otherwise I'm thinking about buying this lawyer's letter for €9.99
-pepperpapers
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