Bonus & Offers: Betano bonus system (Page 2)

Langhans_innen wrote on 09.01.2025 at 13:11:
In any case, even with the less recommendable providers, you should always be open to taking an offered bonus if it could still be profitable under the weak general conditions. I'll take BAH as an example again: 100% with 5X D+B from the last time doesn't count as such. Simply because of the high turnover, which requires a lot of bets with tax deductions and inevitably has a negative impact on profitability. Or these current missions at Betano: what am I supposed to do with a 50% free bet win only if the real money bet has to be smashed first? Or this lurking for free bets in order to evaluate a Provider positively: what's the point of a €5 free bet every Thursday if I leave €100 in tax over the course of the week? A good exception is of course Bet365 in a positive sense: the monthly EZ Bonuses with the betting credits are of course very lucrative, which is why you always have a mathematical advantage within the framework of these promotions if you approach the real money turnover carefully in order to then collect the freebets. But using Bet365 as a regular bookie and the only betting option is suicide due to the weak odds. The same applies, or even more so, to Oddset and comparable German providers.... No one can generate annual profits if they only bet there regularly. It's like gambling at StarGames...it works for an evening or a week...at some point you're at zero. The bottom line is that you have to spend a certain amount of time in order to get yourself into a position that is not completely hopeless - this requires a pool of several providers and a constant comparison of odds. Otherwise you have no chance in the long term...especially as the house advantage always and in all cases remains the final opponent

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Stromberg wrote on 09.01.2025 at 14:42:

As I said, I understand what you want to say, if you want to count on plus in the long term, which probably only very few people succeed in doing, there is no way around it, I agree with you.

If you've given up the idea, for whatever reason, an extra €50 or €100 is just nice, even if the Wagering requirements aren't that great.

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Langhans_innen wrote on 09.01.2025 at 15:02:

don't give up, Stromi You're a cool calculator - you've proven that many times and so has Butterbrezel, for example - if you want to. It would annoy me so much if I booked such a shit bonus and got predictable problems with the implementation just because I wanted a bit more (book) capital to shoot around But these are all just my very personal views, which nobody has to adopt or can find stupid...We are just a forum, you exchange ideas and in the end everyone can and should do it the way they like it best

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Stromberg wrote on 09.01.2025 at 17:05:
I see it a little differently with sports Bonuses, especially if I bet daily anyway, than with slot bonuses, for example.

If I continue to play with the bonus as I would without it, and have enough time to wager, then I just make a win or loss as I would without the bonus, whether the money can be paid out for the moment or not is irrelevant for the time being.
If you only Deposit a 50 once a month and bet on the Bundesliga and then want to cash out if you win, then of course it makes little sense to take a bonus.

If I bet regularly and wager thousands of euros a month on smaller bets, in my eyes it doesn't really matter whether I continue to play with the Bonus money until it is lost or wagered at some point, or whether I pay out my winnings after a few bets, continue to play with the rest until it is lost and deposit my winnings somewhere again. And if the remainder is not lost, it would not have been lost as bonus money either.

I don't know if I've made myself clear😄

I usually do it with a 50% bonus so that I deposit €100 and then have €150. Then I play two attempts at a combination of 3 or 4 with a bet of €25 each. If one goes through, there is a very good chance of at least taking the €50 as a win after the wagering ( with conditions max 4x turnover depositor and bonus). I've actually had good experiences with this. Otherwise, I still have my Hunni, which is not withdrawable, but as I'm always betting anyway, that's not really a problem.

Of course, you're certainly right that the 50 extra euros aren't much use to me if every win is a few percent less than with another bookie.

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Langhans_innen wrote on 09.01.2025 at 17:43:
Then it's different for me, if you now even include the slot department, again differentiated In the casino I never play without a bonus...never...Of course, the Bonuses are also meticulously checked for suitability in advance, even if the Risk rate is much more difficult to predict, as the machines simply do what they want too often. With sports bonuses, I play through in my mind's eye and also in Excel beforehand what has to happen, how and to what extent at what point in time so that I can make a real money profit from this. As soon as a negative scenario gains too much of an upper hand and the chance of coming out of it with a plus, for example, is only 40/60, I don't book it either. Capital preservation is everything, the next opportunity is sure to come. I'm also not the classic bettor who is particularly well versed in any areas/disciplines...I'm sure many of you are more experienced in that area I tend to scrape together my wins through calculation and look for opportunities where the chance outweighs the risk as much as possible. Sports betting is just numbers and probabilities...Apart from tennis matches, which I can watch passionately for hours on end and where I at least know my way around, the whole genre is much more about formulas and calculations than goal celebrations and excitement. I have zero interest in the Bundesliga, for example, but these leagues have the highest odds and are therefore suddenly very interesting. It may sound boring and brittle to real sports fans, but I like doing it and as long as it works, I won't deviate from it. Just a part-time job

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Stromberg wrote on 09.01.2025 at 17:55:
Ultimately that's it, pay and calculate if it is to be run successfully in the long term.

No question about it! That enthusiasm for sport is not the key to success, but mathematics in the broadest sense. Well enough about that... 😃

I used to take Bonuses for slots before regulation, but they were always nonsticky.
I've never had a good experience with any of the others, even though mathematically speaking, a bonus with good conditions maximizes the chances of winning.

But once, maybe 8 years ago at cherrycasino (was it called that? Belonged to the cherry group like sunmaker) I took a 200% €30 for €10.
I was actually able to make €500 out of it with good wins on Immortal Romance and Cloud Quest (field cleared to 50 cents, was €250)... But then they didn't want to pay out to the bank and then the typical Andanger mistake, gambled it all away during the discussions.... 💩😂

Cool, Gaziantep scored 2 more goals while I was writing this🍻

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Langhans_innen wrote on 09.01.2025 18:00:

Thank you very much for the shop talk and I can only hope that we haven't bored the community too much

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RedKaos wrote on 09.01.2025 at 18:25: So my bonus was rejected by email and shortly afterwards a 100% one-off bonus came at the start of the Bundesliga.

But another topic, which I have been observing in a Facebook group for some time now, are bets on goal scorers in the first half. Depending on the team and player, the odds range from an average of 3 to around 7, although there are of course higher odds, but goals are extremely unlikely.
I have now observed someone who always splits his bets in this respect, usually 3 to 4 goalscorers combined, on 20 bets 19 were wrong, although usually 1-2 were right out of 3-4 and one came in at 10 bets 1000 win. And 200 bets.

Maybe I'll give that a try too 😅

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RedKaos wrote on 09.01.2025 at 18:25: So my bonus was rejected by email and shortly afterwards a 100% redemption bonus came at the start of the Bundesliga.

But another topic, which I have been observing in a Facebook group for some time now, are bets on goal scorers in the first half. Depending on the team and player, the odds range from an average of 3 to around 7, although there are of course higher odds, but goals are extremely unlikely.
I have now observed someone who always splits his bets in this respect, usually 3 to 4 goalscorers combined, on 20 bets 19 were wrong, although usually 1-2 were right out of 3-4 and one came in at 10 bets 1000 win. And 200 bets.

Maybe I'll try that too 😅

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