What foundation? Most of them only last as long as you're in the 1st and 2nd division. There are some that have completely crashed like Emmes V
or many ex-GDR clubs are only now slowly coming back, with Rostock perhaps having the most consistency since 1990
In France, it's the same as soon as the drip of money falls away, even a traditional club falls very quickly, see Bordeaux.
Of course, what also plays a role are the string-pullers in the background. I say Bayern, Barca, Real, there are other forces at work in the background.
Touchy123 wrote on 28.11.2024 at 11:17: What foundation? Most only feed as long as you are 1st and 2nd division. There are some that have completely crashed like the Emmes V
or many ex-GDR clubs are only now slowly coming back, although perhaps Rostock has had the most consistency since 1990
In France, it's the same as soon as the drip of money falls away, even a traditional club falls very quickly, see Bordeaux.
Of course, what also plays a role are the string-pullers in the background. I say Bayern, Barca, Real, there are other forces at work in the background.
The foundation members, fan scene, stadium, brand rights etc. and of course not least money, sponsors etc., which you also get because you have a name.
Of course you can lose that again, there's no question about it. But to organically rebuild something like that now, as was possible a few decades ago, is much more difficult or even impossible.
Stromberg wrote on 28.11.2024 at 10:22 am: I can kind of understand both...
Don't think much of all these billionaire investors either.
But you also have to realize that without an investor, a new team will never be able to play first-class football again in the long term. Never again is perhaps an exaggeration, but it will be a very difficult path that will remain the exception, if only because even the traditional clubs will snatch up the best players if a small club is suddenly promoted to the first division.
Is the solution now to say that the 25 or however many clubs that built up the right foundation 30 to 50 years ago should now forever remain the clubs that play in the first division in a small rotation?
You get it!
You don't have to like it, but always saying how stupid everyone is because they have sheikhs etc. doesn't help either. The only logical thing to do would be to distance yourself completely from paid soccer. That's not an option for me, if only because of sports betting. At the end of the day, most people just grumble but take out subscriptions to watch, run to the stadium, buy fan merchandise or bet on it. Time moves on and in this day and age, money rules soccer. And if you want to win titles or simply play at the top, you have to go with the flow. And even the oh-so-great traditional clubs are having their money blown out the back.
Rumors and player changes
Nobody has liked this post so far
or many ex-GDR clubs are only now slowly coming back, with Rostock perhaps having the most consistency since 1990
In France, it's the same as soon as the drip of money falls away, even a traditional club falls very quickly, see Bordeaux.
Of course, what also plays a role are the string-pullers in the background. I say Bayern, Barca, Real, there are other forces at work in the background.
This post has been translated automatically
Rumors and player changes
Nobody has liked this post so far
The foundation members, fan scene, stadium, brand rights etc. and of course not least money, sponsors etc., which you also get because you have a name.
Of course you can lose that again, there's no question about it. But to organically rebuild something like that now, as was possible a few decades ago, is much more difficult or even impossible.
This post has been translated automatically
Rumors and player changes
Nobody has liked this post so far
You get it!
You don't have to like it, but always saying how stupid everyone is because they have sheikhs etc. doesn't help either. The only logical thing to do would be to distance yourself completely from paid soccer. That's not an option for me, if only because of sports betting. At the end of the day, most people just grumble but take out subscriptions to watch, run to the stadium, buy fan merchandise or bet on it. Time moves on and in this day and age, money rules soccer. And if you want to win titles or simply play at the top, you have to go with the flow. And even the oh-so-great traditional clubs are having their money blown out the back.
This post has been translated automatically