Ultimately, you have to realize that it's not (only) down to the coach at HSV, but at a higher level. In recent years, they have had all sorts of characters, ages and systems as coaches and nothing has worked. The fact that many are now mourning Tim Walter, whom they have massively criticized after every unsuccessful game, is somewhat schizophrenic. As a neutral observer, the schadenfreude has long since given way to pity
Emeyesty wrote on 26.11.2024 at 15:35: Ultimately, you have to realize that it's not (only) down to the coach at HSV, but at a higher level. They've had all kinds of characters, ages and systems as coaches in recent years and nothing has worked. The fact that many are now mourning Tim Walter, whom they have massively criticized after every unsuccessful game, is somewhat schizophrenic. As a neutral observer, the schadenfreude has long since given way to pity
With the metropolis as a city, the club could be a top club in Europe. It's unbelievable what potential is being wasted.
Instead, we have more and more soccer dwarfs who are rising to the top because Hamburg, Cologne and Schalke are not using their potential.
I think we should simply say goodbye to the romanticism of football. Everything evolves, including soccer. Teams like Schalke no longer have a place at the top. Another relegation would simply be right and just because they seem to only f**k things up. It's clubs like Leipzig, Hoffenheim and co. that are part of today's world. In 100 years, nobody will care how and when RB Leipzig came into being.
Patizi wrote on 27.11.2024 at 12:31: I think we should just say goodbye to the romance of football. Everything evolves and so does soccer. Teams like Schalke no longer have a place at the top. Another relegation would simply be right and just because they seem to only f**k things up. It's clubs like Leipzig, Hoffenheim and co. that are part of today's world. In 100 years, nobody will care how and when RB Leipzig came into being.
It's sad when you think like that. Pro traditional clubs and no Red Bulls, sheikhs, oil magnates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and all that snot. Unfortunately, there are too many who still support and sometimes even admire this filth. ManCity is so cool. They had to spend over a billion to become Champions League winners. I'd rather stick with my little shit club than ever buy a PSG jersey...
Donnie wrote on November 27, 2024 at 12:59 pm:
Sad when you think like that. Pro traditional clubs and no Red Bulls, sheikhs, oil tycoons, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and all that snot. Unfortunately, there are too many people who still support and sometimes even admire this filth. ManCity is so cool. They had to spend over a billion to become Champions League winners. I'd rather stick with my little shit club than ever buy a PSG jersey...
Ok I could also shout "f**king RB" "Stupid sheikhs" and and and OOOOODER just accept it. No matter how many times I shout how stupid they are, it won't change. Just saying you're not a fan of this or that isn't enough if you want to boycott it. If you have a real problem with the whole thing then you should really boycott it and not just talk about it. Because as long as you watch the big leagues and everything, you're supporting it. We even bet on it and hope that these teams that we supposedly find so stupid will win. And I can also tell you one thing about your example with the small shit clubs. If they were making big money and could suddenly play in higher leagues because of this money, then they would do it because logically it's about moving up for every club and player. Otherwise you can watch a hobby team that meets up on Sundays to play a bit of football. You can certainly even play there yourself.
Well, even in the district league you have to train 1 or 2 times a week. It depends on the area, but you can only play with friends on the football pitch on Sundays at 3pm.
I used to want to play in the district league myself, but it was too stressful for me and it's no good.
I'd be more interested in volleyball where you can let off steam once or twice a month somewhere in a school sports hall.
Do you also go to games from time to time, regardless of the sport? I used to play a lot of ice hockey myself, but now I'm extremely bored of the sport.
The bad thing is that the small district club from the neighborhood actually still plays in the Bundesliga
Nobody would have believed 20 or even 10 years ago that HSV and Schalke would wither away as second division clubs. A cautionary tale of how quickly a big club can go under with persistently bad decisions.
Even BVB was almost on the brink with its sporting near-relegation in 2000 and its financial near-collapse in 2004/2005.
Let's see who will be hit in 10-20 years, which nobody believes will happen now.
Only Bayern are probably secured for the next 20 years at least.
There are always changes. The whole history of mankind.
Maybe soccer will lose its appeal at some point. I generally think that artificial intelligence is going to change life so much somewhere down the line. I guess in 100 years' time, things will no longer exist the way we live now.
From my point of view, the only thing that matters to us is what's current, who knows in 20 years' time. Most likely there will be a Europa League where the current Champions League, Euroliga, conf will become the normal game.
Let's be honest, the Champions League has no future in its current form. 8 match days
That would be like ending the Bundesliga after matchday 8. Completely pointless.
Touchy123 wrote on 27.11.2024 at 15:56: Well, even in the district league you have to train 1 to 2 times a week. Certainly depends on the area, but you can only play with friends on the football pitch on Sundays at 3pm.
I used to want to play in the district league myself, but it was too stressful for me and it's no good.
I'd be more interested in volleyball where you can let off steam once or twice a month somewhere in a school sports hall.
Do you also go to games from time to time, regardless of the sport? I used to play a lot of ice hockey myself, but now I'm extremely bored of the sport.
I usually train once a week in the district league/district league
Landesliga/Landesklasse twice a week, with the top teams that want to be promoted possibly three times a week, although this is rarely the case because everyone works part-time and doesn't get paid a cent.
I played successfully myself for many years.
I've actually been offered quite a bit of money since my youth to change clubs. I ended up quitting due to work because I just never felt like training. Of course, if I was just sitting in an office, I would probably have played until I was 40 if my knees and back would have allowed it
Do you know Sinan bal ? That was my work colleague. He gave away his talent, had offers to play higher up and turned them down. He could easily have played in the 4th division.
Patizi wrote on 27.11.2024 at 12:31: I think we should just say goodbye to the romance of football. Everything evolves and so does soccer. Teams like Schalke no longer have a place at the top. Another relegation would simply be right and just because they seem to only f**k things up. It's clubs like Leipzig, Hoffenheim and co. that are part of today's world. In 100 years, nobody will care how and when RB Leipzig came into being.
Hope dies last
That in 100 years the painting of great-grandpa will be hanging in the apartment
I don't think much of all these billion-dollar investors either.
But you also have to realize that without investors, a new team will basically never be able to play first-class football again in the long term. Never again is perhaps an exaggeration, but it will be a very difficult path that will remain the exception, if only because even the traditional clubs will snatch up the best players if a small club is suddenly promoted to the first division.
Is the solution now to say that the 25 or however many clubs that built up the right foundation 30 to 50 years ago should now forever remain the clubs that play in the first division in a small rotation?
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With the metropolis as a city, the club could be a top club in Europe. It's unbelievable what potential is being wasted.
Instead, we have more and more soccer dwarfs who are rising to the top because Hamburg, Cologne and Schalke are not using their potential.
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The worst thing is that the small neighborhood club from the neighborhood actually still plays in the Bundesliga
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It's sad when you think like that. Pro traditional clubs and no Red Bulls, sheikhs, oil magnates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and all that snot. Unfortunately, there are too many who still support and sometimes even admire this filth. ManCity is so cool. They had to spend over a billion to become Champions League winners. I'd rather stick with my little shit club than ever buy a PSG jersey...
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Ok I could also shout "f**king RB" "Stupid sheikhs" and and and OOOOODER just accept it. No matter how many times I shout how stupid they are, it won't change. Just saying you're not a fan of this or that isn't enough if you want to boycott it. If you have a real problem with the whole thing then you should really boycott it and not just talk about it. Because as long as you watch the big leagues and everything, you're supporting it. We even bet on it and hope that these teams that we supposedly find so stupid will win. And I can also tell you one thing about your example with the small shit clubs. If they were making big money and could suddenly play in higher leagues because of this money, then they would do it because logically it's about moving up for every club and player. Otherwise you can watch a hobby team that meets up on Sundays to play a bit of football. You can certainly even play there yourself.
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I used to want to play in the district league myself, but it was too stressful for me and it's no good.
I'd be more interested in volleyball where you can let off steam once or twice a month somewhere in a school sports hall.
Do you also go to games from time to time, regardless of the sport? I used to play a lot of ice hockey myself, but now I'm extremely bored of the sport.
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I've never been to the arena in Leipzig. Only once as a tourist in the city in front of the stadium. It's quite a big bowl.
I think back in 1960 it was one of the biggest stadiums in the world next to the Maracana. I'm not sure now, nou Camp might be similar.
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Nobody would have believed 20 or even 10 years ago that HSV and Schalke would wither away as second division clubs. A cautionary tale of how quickly a big club can go under with persistently bad decisions.
Even BVB was almost on the brink with its sporting near-relegation in 2000 and its financial near-collapse in 2004/2005.
Let's see who will be hit in 10-20 years, which nobody believes will happen now.
Only Bayern are probably secured for the next 20 years at least.
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Maybe soccer will lose its appeal at some point. I generally think that artificial intelligence is going to change life so much somewhere down the line. I guess in 100 years' time, things will no longer exist the way we live now.
From my point of view, the only thing that matters to us is what's current, who knows in 20 years' time. Most likely there will be a Europa League where the current Champions League, Euroliga, conf will become the normal game.
Let's be honest, the Champions League has no future in its current form. 8 match days
That would be like ending the Bundesliga after matchday 8. Completely pointless.
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I usually train once a week in the district league/district league
Landesliga/Landesklasse twice a week, with the top teams that want to be promoted possibly three times a week, although this is rarely the case because everyone works part-time and doesn't get paid a cent.
I played successfully myself for many years.
I've actually been offered quite a bit of money since my youth to change clubs. I ended up quitting due to work because I just never felt like training. Of course, if I was just sitting in an office, I would probably have played until I was 40 if my knees and back would have allowed it
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Hope dies last
That in 100 years the painting of great-grandpa will be hanging in the apartment
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I don't think much of all these billion-dollar investors either.
But you also have to realize that without investors, a new team will basically never be able to play first-class football again in the long term. Never again is perhaps an exaggeration, but it will be a very difficult path that will remain the exception, if only because even the traditional clubs will snatch up the best players if a small club is suddenly promoted to the first division.
Is the solution now to say that the 25 or however many clubs that built up the right foundation 30 to 50 years ago should now forever remain the clubs that play in the first division in a small rotation?
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