Tips, tricks, strategies... : Videoslots - my former favorite (Page 5)

Kleinkariert wrote on 08/13/2019 at 10:52 AM
It's just that they really can't do that much about it other than request before making a deposit and handle the process quickly. The UKGC is constantly encouraging this and the MGA is following suit, more and more sensitive data is being requested and the Risk of over-regulation is already present where casinos are in constant fear of doing anything wrong and being fined millions directly.

The UKGC has already made adjustments that one is warned before depositing that possibly a check takes place and the Verification must take place directly to counter delays in the payout. If someone now deposits more, they have to react otherwise there is trouble and that is quite expensive. The casinos earn good sums, but must constantly very much abdrücken and set aside. You must not overestimate their income, are not poverty children but so rich that can pay millions every time most casinos are not.

1.12 million € penalty have put Videoslots in horror and they had to immediately restructure the whole bonus systems, the high taxes of some countries were suddenly a problem and they set the slot RTP down (at the providers where it went) and the loyalty department is actually no longer there. Now everything runs over the wheels.

I can understand your frustration though, whenever it is inconvenient these things come and then everything nicely one after the other.

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Quippie wrote on 08/13/2019 11:31 AM
That's right, I didn't know the rtp was reduced until today and only found out here. Even when asked whether this is true Videoslots has given no answer, which in itself is cheeky (Peter B. from the Videoslots chat I take times out, with which you get sometimes really answer).

Of course, they have the right to design their casino as they want it. But then only the "great" Clash of Spins" to advertise, but at the same time do not point to lowered values, is fraud

And whoever says otherwise, of course also accepts when a bank increases the overdraft interest without announcement, when the car Insurance increases, when the fixed network contracts increase, etc., etc., etc...
Normally, everyone MUST receive a notification, EU-wide and not only in Germany. After that, everyone can pick out again whether he wants to remain a customer or not.

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Unbeliver wrote on 08/13/2019 11:48 AM
They pointed it out in the news, at the time (that's where nobody looks in anyway...), you can't accuse them of that directly now. One can accuse them however this not directly e.g. on the starting side for everyone visibly to announce. Fraud is here a much too violent term and that does not apply however the proceeding is in any case not the yellow of the Egg

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Zwischenmeister wrote on 08/12/2019 at 11:49 pm
You're casually putting a "unique" at the beginning of that sentence, as if that's just some unimportant detail, like a different colored spin button.

But asked the other way around, WHAT THE f**kING HELL can be more important in gaming than just this Return to Player percentage!!!!

Sure, they "only" lowered the RTP, no big deal, before it was just TOO easy to bring out thousands of Euros every month, now it's just 1-2k, but VS doesn't go bankrupt...or how do you mean that?

But people so it is not, if one leads oneself this whole process times before eyes, then one must ask oneself nevertheless actually seriously the question, how it can be possible, which a store announces something so publicly and pulls through, without which a large outcry goes by the Zockerlager, without which the players remain row by row away from protest etc. etc.. Because that's what it's all about, you play (actually, at least it used to be that way) to win something, and they just say

"Oh by the way, from now on you simply win less with us. But that doesn't matter, we have a surprise for you: In the future, you only have to wager 5x (yes, only five times) as much as before to be allowed to take part in the battles like

But don't worry, there are less freespins to win than before.

And by the way, the regular email promos with 24-hour battle tickets and freespins will also be dropped from now on, of course. Everything clear? Fine guys, thanks for your understanding, let's move on - there's the Deposit button up there."

What normal company and in what industry could pull something like this off, all at the same time, without customers protesting, running away in rows, and possibly suing them? Name one!

It's not like we all got rich before, most of us lost before. How easy it is for them to get through the front door with such an awesome thing without being bothered really still amazes me.

Some are like lemmings here, no shit...

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Zwischenmeister wrote on 08/12/2019 at 23:49: What normal company and in what industry could pull off something like this, all at the same time, without customers protesting, running away in rows, and possibly suing them? Name one!

How the lemmings are here some, without shit...

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Ludio wrote on 08/13/2019 12:40 PM
In the food industry, the "golden cream puff" is awarded every year. Consumers can suggest there companies that have carried out hidden price increases.

In the industry, packaging contents are often reduced and sold at the same price or the packaging itself is enlarged, but the contents remain the same. In itself, the consumer can always inform himself on the packaging how much content is contained. But who always reads the fine print, especially for products that they buy again and again?

The only thing that changes is the price, which of course is to the disadvantage of the customer. And here I draw parallels to how Videoslots handled the RTP reductions

Too bad that something like this is not awarded in the casino industry.

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Ludio wrote on 08/13/2019 at 11:12 AM
Regarding this sentence, I have to add something here. It sounds just as if the UKGC or MGA has something to do with the higher tax rates. This is of course not the case. It is about higher taxes in the Scandinavian countries. This CAN pass a casino so to the players (with the lowered RTP), but it MUST not. Here I have to use the Betsson Group again as a comparison. This is particularly strong in the Scandinavian countries (the group was also founded there), so has exactly the same "problems" with these taxes, but has NOT passed them on to the players in contrast to Videoslots.

So Videoslots would not have had to do this, but they have and they have done so quietly. Many of the players who play there, still do not know that they play there with less RTP these games and a large part of the users here, it has also only had noticed back then, when someone had posted this here.

The whole behavior on the part of Videoslots in this case is, in my opinion, just very questionable and I'm sticking to that

Unbeliver wrote on 08/13/2019 11:43 AM
Now please don't misunderstand but what you write in the last two paragraphs can definitely be called a naive view
It is not about that an OC like VS really gets into trouble because they have to pay a par million penalty or because somewhere the taxes are a little higher. It is rather that the investors behind it, the numbers are now an example, panic because they earn instead of 20 only 17-18 million and then give the management the target to correct here. The example of Ludio with Betsson hits the nail pretty much on the head here.
It is also the case that the RTP cut also applies to players residing in Austria, for example, but VS does not pay any taxes here...
You can think of it what you want, but I do not think much of it.

Quippie wrote on 08/13/2019 at 11:20 AM
Thanks for the explanation. You probably know better than me about some things too

And totally agree that this has to be done BEFORE the first deposit. Videoslots is no exception. Only with them it upsets me the most, because there probably the mechanisms take effect too late or it was previously quite indifferent to how much you have deposited. Then please also immediately limit deposits from their side until everything is there. But taking money, that's what they do

Probably you could Deposit 5000 Euro at once and they would take it... if 100 Euro of it is paid out, then they would refuse. What would happen if you don't want to send a proof? Do you get the 5000 Euro back? Theoretically, yes, they do not know where the money comes from?

You could try it, write to them, you have bet money, which you did not have, so to my knowledge it can even be demanded. Is but perhaps only half knowledge, but my once to have heard something like that

That those who have a profit flow there or have a fairly balanced balance sheet feel well taken care of there is also understandable, because I myself have never had anything come through Videoslots. I never had much contact with them, because everything was smooth. But the more contact you have with them, the more evasive and put-off answers you get.

Since I praise me now really other casinos. Zb falls me there the noaccount casino. That had already requested a few months ago and quite close to the registration documents, whether you can afford to play. And there I had deposited a total of quite little (about 500) and paid out almost the same amount.

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