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Tips, tricks, strategies... : [PC Tool] Slot Tracker (Page 2)

Topic created on 05th Dec. 2019 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 32 | Views: 9,508
shoxxy
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[PC Tool] Slot Tracker

6th Dec. 2019, at 01:25 pm CET#11
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MarcT22186 wrote on 06/12/2019 at 07:46: Currently does not go on smartphone, because only the Kiwi has the developer function of the Chrome extension, but this can not access systemfiles.

And with root access also not?

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MarcT22186
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[PC Tool] Slot Tracker

6th Dec. 2019, at 01:56 pm CET#12
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Mo1985 wrote on 06/12/2019 08:49: Do the casinos allow the use of such software?

I know from my Poker days that some tools are banned and lead to freezing of funds and account closure.

As s1n88 wrote, the casino has no influence on this and the tool has no influence on the results.
In poker, however, the tools go far beyond the tracking and can / could show you probabilities of future actions or results. Here it is really only about the evaluation of acquired data

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MarcT22186
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6th Dec. 2019, at 01:58 pm CET#13
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shoxxy wrote on 06/12/2019 at 13:25
And with root access neither?

No, unfortunately it doesn't. The browser doesn't even offer the option in the first place

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shoxxy
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6th Dec. 2019, at 02:02 pm CET#14
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MarcT22186 wrote on Dec 06, 2019 at 1:58 pm
No, unfortunately it doesn't. The browser doesn't even offer the option in the first place.

Yes had also tried it once with the developer version of Chrome, but as you say, missing function

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6th Dec. 2019, at 02:12 pm CET#15
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As promised, a few pictures. These are from my "test" account, where I track sessions with free games and resulting results

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MarcT22186
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19th Dec. 2019, at 10:15 am CET#16
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Since there have been some inquiries here and also via Comm regarding a mobile version of the tool:
It is indeed the case that a mobile version is planned and already in the works.
There is even a working extension for Kiwi and Yandex, but not user-friendly. But the development is currently on hold, because ST is getting a fully functional CMS and the site will be completely redesigned accordingly.
Furthermore there will be a german version!

Source: Conversation with a developer - corresponding excerpt from the mail:
"The plan for next year is to have a mobile version and we're hopefully making some very significant changes to the extension and investigating if we can make it an executable installed on your PC or phone. This has been deprioritised because we're also working on a brand new website and UI and adding many new suppliers too.

I also hope to have a fully functioning CMS by the end of the year and the website localised in various languages (German is one of them) but finding developers is impossible these days so it takes much more time than expected.

The extension does actually work on Kiwi and Yandex but the user experience is not great so I'd rather not send you the installer."

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skyro
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9th Jan. 2020, at 01:14 pm CET#17
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i don't want to say anything bad, but the tool brings no advantage at all... what does it do for me to track slots? Nothing at all. I can't win more or less, I can't see which casino has the most wins because it's still all random, and the average consumer has too few spins to get reliable results, so explain to me what the advantage is of using this tool.

It's like keeping a list of how many times a coin has fallen on heads or tails.

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MarcT22186
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9th Jan. 2020, at 01:46 pm CET#18
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skyro wrote on 09.01.2020 at 13:14: I don't want to talk bad now but the tool brings purely no advantage... what does it bring me slots to track??? Nothing. I can't win more or less, I can't see which casino has the most wins because it's still all random, and a normal user has too few spins to get reliable results, so explain to me what is the advantage of using this tool.

It's like keeping a list of how many times a coin has fallen on heads or tails.

If that's your reasoning, then the tool alone gets you 0, however the more that use it, the better you can check if the slots are running halfway to spec
Since you can retrieve the data collected and summarized on the page

What other advantages this tool brings
1. For example, there was a thread here where a few people (purely from the feeling) have tested OCs and slots, with the perceived result that nothing works, exclusively minus. With the tool, you can actually see your sessions in front of your eyes.
2. The collected aluminum supplies can be disposed of! For example, the thread somewhere here with the claims BTG features always activate at 00:05.
3. Yes, this point takes some time, but it can help to adjust his own Bet Samples. When I read here that people with 20-30€ play Monopoly on 1€, I get goosebumps, especially when they complain that after 200€ there is no Ultra Epic win in the feature.
4. It illustrates extremely well the difference between low, mid, and high volatile slots.
5. The tool calculates the SRP (Statistical Return Percentage), i.e. the return on coin and not on betsize basis. Different betsizes distort the actual return. That's why the personal RTP value at VS is BS, for example.
6. You have a nice overview of your P&L, per OC, per slot, per session

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skyro
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9th Jan. 2020, at 01:52 pm CET#19
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MarcT22186 wrote on 09.01.2020 at 13:46
If that is your reasoning, then the tool alone brings you 0, however the more use it, the better one can check whether the slots run halfway according to the specs
Since you can retrieve the data collected and summarized on the page

What other advantages this tool brings
1. For example, there was a thread here where a few people (purely from the feeling) have tested OCs and slots, with the perceived result that nothing works, exclusively minus. With the tool, you can actually see your sessions in front of your eyes.
2. The collected aluminum supplies can be disposed of! For example, the thread somewhere here with the claims BTG features always activate at 00:05.
3. Yes, this point takes some time, but it can help to adjust his own Bet Samples. When I read here that people with 20-30€ play Monopoly on 1€, I get goosebumps, especially when they complain that after 200€ there is no Ultra Epic win in the feature.
4. It illustrates extremely well the difference between low, mid, and high volatile slots.
5. The tool calculates the SRP (Statistical Return Percentage), i.e. the return on coin and not on betsize basis. Different betsizes distort the actual return. That's why the personal RTP value at VS is BS, for example.
6. You have a nice overview of your P&L, per OC, per slot, per session.

completely fine, as I said was no hate. I just didn't see any advantages... I didn't know that the data is summarized. Can you explain about betsize? Better higher or lower or what do you think??? If I Deposit eg 20€ then I first play maximum with 10 cents, often only with 5 cents until some wins come. Unfortunately, only very moderate success so far. But I would never make with 20-30 € 1 € spins and certainly not in a BTG game, that is hopeless.

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9th Jan. 2020, at 02:10 pm CET#20
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skyro wrote on 09.01.2020 at 13:52

totally fine, as said was no hate. Just didn't see any advantages... that the data is summarized I didn't know. Can you explain about betsize? Better higher or lower or what do you mean??? If I Deposit eg 20€ then I first play maximum with 10 cents, often only with 5 cents until some wins come. Unfortunately, only very moderate success so far. But I would never make with 20-30 € 1 € spins and certainly not in a BTG game, that is hopeless.

The personal RTP, such as VS uses your stake in €. If you play e.g. standard min bet and now accidentally play a max bet and hit something that is > bet even if it is only x2 it can change your RTP positively - is also correct for now and positive is always good. However, a Deadspin can also unintentionally drag your RTP down and distort the actual picture
The SRP, on the other hand, works on the basis of coins, i.e. the slot currency, and shows you what your actual value is on this basis.
This gives you the advantage that you can better adjust your standard bet size to the slot without having extreme outliers. So you have a personal adjusted RTP.

As mentioned in the other thread, the RTP always fits over a sample size and someone wins your misclicks. But you yourself are frustrated and tell yourself because of that, RTP never fits and is BS.
Good example:
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Have had my best bonus in the session (x700) on 50cent, then up to 1.50 slowly descending almost only deadspins. My RTP is bomb in the session, but if I had continued to gamble on 50 cents I would have been DEUTHLY better off

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