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AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
17th Jul. 2017, at 02:54 pm CEST#1
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Here is some info about Dead or Alive that will be interesting for many gamers here. This info is not from me - but I found it by chance in an American review / article.
Original link in english: http://www.netentcasinos.reviews/2015/04/02/dead-or-alive-slot-strategy-guidehow-to-play-smart-while-chasing-that-big-win/
Since this is all in English - I thought - I translate it for you. You will also see that many things I have already written in my other info also apply here. Just what the distribution of profits for bit hits.
Now to the essential...
# Info about Dead or Alive:
5 wheel slot with 9 paylines (which you can also minimize/select on the desktop version)
The game has Scatter wins, Sticky Wilds and a freespins feature
Freespins are triggered by at least 3 Scatters (revolvers)
StickyWilds are available only in the freespins
Freespins number: 12 and are counted double as Win factor X 2
With right luck you can win a win factor of 6000 x bet
Freespins can be extended if you get all 5 different Sticky Wilds figures (at least one per wheel)
one time extension of 5 freespins
Minimum bet 0.09 (with all 9 paylines active)
Maximum bet 18 Euro (with all 9 paylines active)
Maximum win: 54.000 Euro
RTP of 96.8%
# How to play Dead or Alive (Strategy and Range)
You should look for an OC where NetEnt games are available (logically) - but it is important that you choose a casino where you have not yet used your welcome bonus. So register at a fresh casino. Preferably a casino which provides you with 150, 200 or even 300% bonus. This is important because you need a large starting balance to be successful in DoA. With the exception of a random good run which can also happen (but is rare).
Take a look here in the casino overview for the bonus offers and choose one for yourself
Please check the bonus conditions whether Dead or Alive is allowed with bonus. Some casinos forbid it completely, others say OK - but counts only with 20% to the turnover requirements or 0% - others again say is allowed without restriction (very rare). Please take this seriously - otherwise you may find yourself biting the AR...!
Ok - to the Deposit ... You must note that you need a playable balance that is about 300 - 400 times my desired bet amount.
# Examples for 400-fold heights based on 3 betting examples:
0,09 Euro x 400 = 36 Euro (play without bonus - not worth it)
0,18 Euro x 400 = 72 Euro (play here without bonus - not worth it)
0,27 Euro x 400 = 108 Euro (play here without bonus - not worth it)
0,36 Euro x 400 = 144 Euro (from here on the bonus becomes interesting)
0,45 Euro x 400 = 180 Euro
0,54 Euro x 400 = 216 Euro
0,72 Euro x 400 = 288 Euro
0,90 Euro x 400 = 360 Euro
1,35 Euro x 400 = 540 Euro
1,80 Euro x 400 = 720 Euro
# from here it becomes really steep ... above that are still possible if you have a good win and want to Risk it. Could me just angry that I have not maxht at least times for 0.90 cents or so... I moron
2,70 Euro x 400 = 1080 Euro
3,60 Euro x 400 = 1440 Euro
4,50 Euro x 400 = 1800 Euro
5,40 Euro x 400 = 2160 Euro
7,20 Euro x 400 = 2880 Euro
9,00 Euro x 400 = 3600 Euro
13,50 Euro x 400 = 5400 Euro
18,00 Euro x 400 = 7200 Euro
So you need the capital that comes out of it (with a decent bonus 1/2 or 1/3 as own share)
Again the hint - ask before if you can play Dead or Alive with Bonus money! Very often you can but unfortunately with the restriction that it only goes with the cash portion ... so only with your 1/2 or 1/3 share!
# Select the right bonus
- if you take higher percentages in Bonuses so mostly 200% and up - the turnover requirements are also higher under certain circumstances. Often it is about 50x or 60x bonus. If it is even higher - in no case take because it is almost impossible to implement. 50x-60x times is already a house number!
- with a 100% bonus you should not use any offer that is higher than 40x wagering
- also check if you have to convert ONLY the bonus or also your deposit, often it is so that you read e.g. 40x convert and think (Boah is that much). But if only the bonus is meant here - this may be much less than 30x bonus + deposit!
Current note: At Videoslots this does not work - because you get there the bonus in 10% steps only paid out if you have fulfilled turnover requirements. I.e. you get a bonus and only after fulfilling 10% of the turnover requirements you automatically get 10% of the bonus credited. Is a very very untypical condition!
# Pay out after a high profit
as soon as you have a really high profit - no idea on 0,45 1200 Euro - pay out. If you still have bonus turnover to fulfill, look for games with a high RTP without high win possibilities and fulfill the conditions there. But before that, again, look at the list of turnover requirements. Often games like Blood Suckers, Golden Shamrock, Diamond Dogs, Devil's Delight, Hot City etc. are not allowed or have very low percentages to fulfill. Unfortunately, no real tips can be given here - as the list of games differs from casino to casino.
# Statistical info about the game - now it gets really interesting
These stastics are based on the turnover of 1.5 million spins with real money in Dead or Alive!
Bonus round / freespins come on average every 150 spins
The chance to get the bonus round including the additional 5 spins is 1:8000, i.e. it happens about every 8,000 spins
Furthermore, it happens on average only every 40,000 spins that you get a high win with over 1,000 times your bet. This means that every 40,000 spins you can get either 5 scatters or a complete wild line.
So much for the relation and what you are getting into!
# Important note:
You should play at least 600 spins when you play Dead or Alive to get the chance of a decent profit. Therefore also above the hint with the 400x bet balance which one needs. Most of the time you play even 100 spins more with it. The chance to land a BigHit increases thereby of course!
# Winning distribution during the 1..5 million real money spins
When collecting these statistics, there were a total of 3,441 triggers of the freespins. This means that a total of 516,150 spins have been played.
List of winnings included:
X times the stake | number of wins | percentage of wins
0000 - 0099 times the stake = 3,215 winnings = 93.43 %
0100 - 0499 times the stake = 180 winnings = 5.23%
0500 - 0999 times the stake = 21 winnings = 0,61 %
1000 - 4479 times the stake = 25 winnings = 0,73 %
This means that in 93% of the time you will win only 1-99 times your stake!
# Winning distribution with winnings over 1000 times the stake during these spins
Bet | Spins | Win | 5 Extra Freegames | 5 Wilds in a Line | 5 Scatter Win
0.45 Bet | 3582 Spins | 1611.90 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 3372 Spins | 1517.40 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2964 Spins | 2667.40 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 2926 Spins | 1316.70 | Yes | Yes | No
4.50 Bet | 2761 Spins | 12424.50 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2634 Spins | 2370.60 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 2564 Spins | 1153.80 | No | No | Yes
0.45 Bet | 2522 Spins | 1134.90 | Yes | Yes | No
0.18 Bet | 2512 Spins | 452.16 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2304 Spins | 2073.60 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2263 Spins | 2036.70 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 1993 Spins | 1793.70 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 1622 Spins | 729.90 | Yes | Yes - with 3 more Spins | No
0.45 Bet | 1310 Spins | 589.50 | Yes | Yes with 2 more Spins | No
Interesting here is that you can see that even the stakes between 0.45 - 0.90 cents
can throw good profits. If you now see the relation of the distribution you have to admit
you have to admit - you really need luck!
Conclusion: It is important that when you play this game - you don't just play for a fuffy
but really stays with it and makes a longer session. One sees also here beautifully
as already mentioned in my other contributions. You have to hit the right field in the win-matrix!
And that means - you just really have to complete enough spins. The random hit can
clearly at any time. If the predecessor has already played 3xxx spins on the bet and you come along with
and you come along with 50 euros and then after 100 spins on 0.45 just hit the 5 scatter
;-P
To have some control how many spins you have done I recommend you to use autospins in steps of
in steps of 100 or 250. Always keep an eye on the number of spins and write down the
on a piece of paper the approximate number of spins you have played. The shorter the spin selection is - i.e. 50s blocks
the more precise you can write it down. Also avoid that you have to leave the game - not playing for a longer
Time not playing. The session may be ended. ... if you want to eat do it in front of the computer ... or set enough
Autospins and then go eat. DoA has the good feature that it starts the freespins itself and then returns to the autospin
returns to autospin mode ... other games do not do that.
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AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
This analysis is so fake, you don't know where to start to refute it!
I'll just take one of the obvious contradictions: At the beginning it was still a statistic of 1.5 million spins, in the middle of it are then suddenly only 516,150 spins... (the ca500,000 are simply calculated back from the number of free spins and the alleged average, when they should come. Possibly the actual average is about 450 spins instead of 150). It is also possible that different stats were simply mixed here, in which case you have to ask why this happened, since 1.5 mio spins is enough sample size in itself. (so why take iher other statistics in with it)
The win distribution table is concocted or misunderstood.The "win" column is simply the result of multiplying the first ("bet") and second ("spins") columns. Here only the revenue is calculated for a certain number of spins on a certain bet... nothing more.
In general, I don't trust the whole thing when the game Provider tries to tell me how many spins I should invest on his slots. And certainly not if the provider creates the statistics for this himself! Have not looked at the original link, evtl are here only some things misunderstood (or translated). But please check this, if you are about to let this flow into your game.
Best regards
and good luck
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AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
21st Feb. 2018, at 02:37 pm CET#3
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In general, an average AQ of less than 100% applies. This means that you can win in the short term , but you should lose in the long term (empirical expectation). This in turn results in a generally valid rule
- The longer you play a slot, the higher the probability of a loss!
Often you are already after a few 100 spins so far in the minus that it is already very unlikely to come back at all to break even. I have made such experiments with several 1000 spins (low stake of course) to be able to calculate a certain expectation. Believe me: this can be extremely expensive! And as I said, often you can't get back to where you started at any point. And if this is the case, then it usually happens (estimated 90%) relatively at the beginning, so on the first let's say 250 spins.
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AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
22nd Feb. 2018, at 10:58 am CET#4
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Well, I think the numbers above are very realistic. Read best times the English version ... maybe I really misunderstood something.
AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
7th Dec. 2018, at 08:18 pm CET#6
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Hmm, long text, but zi much statistics. Bla bla.
Either have luck or after 30 spins out but 600 spins turn and then nothing comes because yes statistics you yourself have not falsified
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AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
7th Dec. 2018, at 08:25 pm CET#7
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i hate the game every time you get FS no 20 euro no matter how high I play. Okay never got over 2 euro fs...:D
AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
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Original link in english: http://www.netentcasinos.reviews/2015/04/02/dead-or-alive-slot-strategy-guidehow-to-play-smart-while-chasing-that-big-win/
Since this is all in English - I thought - I translate it for you. You will also see that many things I have already written in my other info also apply here. Just what the distribution of profits for bit hits.
Now to the essential...
# Info about Dead or Alive:
5 wheel slot with 9 paylines (which you can also minimize/select on the desktop version)
The game has Scatter wins, Sticky Wilds and a freespins feature
Freespins are triggered by at least 3 Scatters (revolvers)
StickyWilds are available only in the freespins
Freespins number: 12 and are counted double as Win factor X 2
With right luck you can win a win factor of 6000 x bet
Freespins can be extended if you get all 5 different Sticky Wilds figures (at least one per wheel)
one time extension of 5 freespins
Minimum bet 0.09 (with all 9 paylines active)
Maximum bet 18 Euro (with all 9 paylines active)
Maximum win: 54.000 Euro
RTP of 96.8%
# How to play Dead or Alive (Strategy and Range)
You should look for an OC where NetEnt games are available (logically) - but it is important that you choose a casino where you have not yet used your welcome bonus. So register at a fresh casino. Preferably a casino which provides you with 150, 200 or even 300% bonus. This is important because you need a large starting balance to be successful in DoA. With the exception of a random good run which can also happen (but is rare).
Take a look here in the casino overview for the bonus offers and choose one for yourself
Please check the bonus conditions whether Dead or Alive is allowed with bonus. Some casinos forbid it completely, others say OK - but counts only with 20% to the turnover requirements or 0% - others again say is allowed without restriction (very rare). Please take this seriously - otherwise you may find yourself biting the AR...!
Ok - to the Deposit ... You must note that you need a playable balance that is about 300 - 400 times my desired bet amount.
# Examples for 400-fold heights based on 3 betting examples:
0,09 Euro x 400 = 36 Euro (play without bonus - not worth it)
0,18 Euro x 400 = 72 Euro (play here without bonus - not worth it)
0,27 Euro x 400 = 108 Euro (play here without bonus - not worth it)
0,36 Euro x 400 = 144 Euro (from here on the bonus becomes interesting)
0,45 Euro x 400 = 180 Euro
0,54 Euro x 400 = 216 Euro
0,72 Euro x 400 = 288 Euro
0,90 Euro x 400 = 360 Euro
1,35 Euro x 400 = 540 Euro
1,80 Euro x 400 = 720 Euro
# from here it becomes really steep ... above that are still possible if you have a good win and want to Risk it. Could me just angry that I have not maxht at least times for 0.90 cents or so... I moron
2,70 Euro x 400 = 1080 Euro
3,60 Euro x 400 = 1440 Euro
4,50 Euro x 400 = 1800 Euro
5,40 Euro x 400 = 2160 Euro
7,20 Euro x 400 = 2880 Euro
9,00 Euro x 400 = 3600 Euro
13,50 Euro x 400 = 5400 Euro
18,00 Euro x 400 = 7200 Euro
So you need the capital that comes out of it (with a decent bonus 1/2 or 1/3 as own share)
Again the hint - ask before if you can play Dead or Alive with Bonus money! Very often you can but unfortunately with the restriction that it only goes with the cash portion ... so only with your 1/2 or 1/3 share!
# Select the right bonus
- if you take higher percentages in Bonuses so mostly 200% and up - the turnover requirements are also higher under certain circumstances. Often it is about 50x or 60x bonus. If it is even higher - in no case take because it is almost impossible to implement. 50x-60x times is already a house number!
- with a 100% bonus you should not use any offer that is higher than 40x wagering
- also check if you have to convert ONLY the bonus or also your deposit, often it is so that you read e.g. 40x convert and think (Boah is that much). But if only the bonus is meant here - this may be much less than 30x bonus + deposit!
Current note: At Videoslots this does not work - because you get there the bonus in 10% steps only paid out if you have fulfilled turnover requirements. I.e. you get a bonus and only after fulfilling 10% of the turnover requirements you automatically get 10% of the bonus credited. Is a very very untypical condition!
# Pay out after a high profit
as soon as you have a really high profit - no idea on 0,45 1200 Euro - pay out. If you still have bonus turnover to fulfill, look for games with a high RTP without high win possibilities and fulfill the conditions there. But before that, again, look at the list of turnover requirements. Often games like Blood Suckers, Golden Shamrock, Diamond Dogs, Devil's Delight, Hot City etc. are not allowed or have very low percentages to fulfill. Unfortunately, no real tips can be given here - as the list of games differs from casino to casino.
# Statistical info about the game - now it gets really interesting
These stastics are based on the turnover of 1.5 million spins with real money in Dead or Alive!
Bonus round / freespins come on average every 150 spins
The chance to get the bonus round including the additional 5 spins is 1:8000, i.e. it happens about every 8,000 spins
Furthermore, it happens on average only every 40,000 spins that you get a high win with over 1,000 times your bet. This means that every 40,000 spins you can get either 5 scatters or a complete wild line.
So much for the relation and what you are getting into!
# Important note:
You should play at least 600 spins when you play Dead or Alive to get the chance of a decent profit. Therefore also above the hint with the 400x bet balance which one needs. Most of the time you play even 100 spins more with it. The chance to land a BigHit increases thereby of course!
# Winning distribution during the 1..5 million real money spins
When collecting these statistics, there were a total of 3,441 triggers of the freespins. This means that a total of 516,150 spins have been played.
List of winnings included:
X times the stake | number of wins | percentage of wins
0000 - 0099 times the stake = 3,215 winnings = 93.43 %
0100 - 0499 times the stake = 180 winnings = 5.23%
0500 - 0999 times the stake = 21 winnings = 0,61 %
1000 - 4479 times the stake = 25 winnings = 0,73 %
This means that in 93% of the time you will win only 1-99 times your stake!
# Winning distribution with winnings over 1000 times the stake during these spins
Bet | Spins | Win | 5 Extra Freegames | 5 Wilds in a Line | 5 Scatter Win
0.45 Bet | 3582 Spins | 1611.90 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 3372 Spins | 1517.40 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2964 Spins | 2667.40 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 2926 Spins | 1316.70 | Yes | Yes | No
4.50 Bet | 2761 Spins | 12424.50 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2634 Spins | 2370.60 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 2564 Spins | 1153.80 | No | No | Yes
0.45 Bet | 2522 Spins | 1134.90 | Yes | Yes | No
0.18 Bet | 2512 Spins | 452.16 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2304 Spins | 2073.60 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 2263 Spins | 2036.70 | Yes | Yes | No
0.90 Bet | 1993 Spins | 1793.70 | Yes | Yes | No
0.45 Bet | 1622 Spins | 729.90 | Yes | Yes - with 3 more Spins | No
0.45 Bet | 1310 Spins | 589.50 | Yes | Yes with 2 more Spins | No
Interesting here is that you can see that even the stakes between 0.45 - 0.90 cents
can throw good profits. If you now see the relation of the distribution you have to admit
you have to admit - you really need luck!
Conclusion: It is important that when you play this game - you don't just play for a fuffy
but really stays with it and makes a longer session. One sees also here beautifully
as already mentioned in my other contributions. You have to hit the right field in the win-matrix!
And that means - you just really have to complete enough spins. The random hit can
clearly at any time. If the predecessor has already played 3xxx spins on the bet and you come along with
and you come along with 50 euros and then after 100 spins on 0.45 just hit the 5 scatter
;-P
To have some control how many spins you have done I recommend you to use autospins in steps of
in steps of 100 or 250. Always keep an eye on the number of spins and write down the
on a piece of paper the approximate number of spins you have played. The shorter the spin selection is - i.e. 50s blocks
the more precise you can write it down. Also avoid that you have to leave the game - not playing for a longer
Time not playing. The session may be ended. ... if you want to eat do it in front of the computer ... or set enough
Autospins and then go eat. DoA has the good feature that it starts the freespins itself and then returns to the autospin
returns to autospin mode ... other games do not do that.
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AKA#04 - Dead or Alive - NetEnt a few facts & figures
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I'll just take one of the obvious contradictions: At the beginning it was still a statistic of 1.5 million spins, in the middle of it are then suddenly only 516,150 spins... (the ca500,000 are simply calculated back from the number of free spins and the alleged average, when they should come. Possibly the actual average is about 450 spins instead of 150). It is also possible that different stats were simply mixed here, in which case you have to ask why this happened, since 1.5 mio spins is enough sample size in itself. (so why take iher other statistics in with it)
The win distribution table is concocted or misunderstood.The "win" column is simply the result of multiplying the first ("bet") and second ("spins") columns. Here only the revenue is calculated for a certain number of spins on a certain bet... nothing more.
In general, I don't trust the whole thing when the game Provider tries to tell me how many spins I should invest on his slots. And certainly not if the provider creates the statistics for this himself! Have not looked at the original link, evtl are here only some things misunderstood (or translated). But please check this, if you are about to let this flow into your game.
Best regards
and good luck
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- The longer you play a slot, the higher the probability of a loss!
Often you are already after a few 100 spins so far in the minus that it is already very unlikely to come back at all to break even. I have made such experiments with several 1000 spins (low stake of course) to be able to calculate a certain expectation. Believe me: this can be extremely expensive! And as I said, often you can't get back to where you started at any point. And if this is the case, then it usually happens (estimated 90%) relatively at the beginning, so on the first let's say 250 spins.
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Either have luck or after 30 spins out but 600 spins turn and then nothing comes because yes statistics you yourself have not falsified
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