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Slot Games in general: Who wants to be a millionaire btg (Page 2)

Topic created on 15th Apr. 2021 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 25 | Views: 5,388
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15th Apr. 2021, at 09:32 pm CEST#11
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Julian wrote on 04/15/2021 at 18:07: Hello Cheeseburger,

I personally think that the choices in all bonus features / free spins in slots are just decoration and the outcome is already determined in advance

For example, in Scruffy Duck / Secret of the Stones or other slots, irrelevant whether you select the left symbol or the right symbol, in my opinion, the whole thing makes no difference and the respective feature / symbol is already determined in advance.

The whole thing is just for entertainment or to make it generally more exciting for the player.
The result should not be influenced by this.

Especially with WWM, I could imagine a scheme similar to a Risk ladder or a Card risk, which means in theory you could, for example, 5 times in a row to select the answers with the lowest percentage and still get ahead.

But I have no proof for my theory, the whole thing is just my own gut feeling on the subject.

Edit: a similar topic has been discussed in the past, if you are interested you can read it there:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/bonus-mit-auswahl-bzw-glucksrad-178789/#p178789







This could possibly be explained with a video of Knossi quite well because there it was once so he has his girlfriend at the time give all the answers and not at all paid attention to the % display which was nevertheless always correct until I mean to the 50 spins high

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15th Apr. 2021, at 09:50 pm CEST#12
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gamble1 wrote on 15.04.2021 at 21:32
This could possibly be explained with a video of Knossi quite well because there it was once so he let his girlfriend at the time give all the answers and not at all paid attention to the % display which was but still always right until I mean to the 50 spins high

Was about to 32spins 50 in any case

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15th Apr. 2021, at 09:51 pm CEST#13
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robby811 wrote on 04/15/2021 at 21:50
Was approx up to 32spins 50 on jeinen case.

Yes, as I said, I've only heard that in passing, but could speak for the theory of Julian

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16th Apr. 2021, at 03:01 am CEST#14
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So generally with such selection features I am also quite sure that this is already fixed in advance.

But with WwM and Extra Chilli I would be really interested if you get the same win if you take 8 free spins or come up to 24.

Or can you imagine it like this. In 8 freespins is a win of x 20 in it. In 12 a win of x30, in 16 a win of x100 and in 20 nothing at all because it doesn't go into the field there. Do you know what I mean?

And would it then also be possible that one has for example with 20 free spins x300 in it but he goes with 24 then nevertheless on a blank? Or is but a certain amount of profit the result always the same, no matter whether you take the 8 games or gambled up to 24.

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16th Apr. 2021, at 09:38 am CEST#15
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Falke wrote on 16.04.2021 at 03:01: So generally with such selection features I am also quite sure that this is already fixed in advance.

But with WwM and Extra Chilli I would be really interested whether you get the same win if you take 8 free spins or comes up to 24.

Or can you imagine it like this. In 8 freespins is a win of x 20 in it. In 12 a win of x30, in 16 a win of x100 and in 20 nothing at all because it doesn't go into the field there. Do you know what I mean?

And would it then also be possible that one has for example with 20 free spins x300 in it but he goes with 24 then nevertheless on a blank? Or is but a certain amount of profit the result always the same, no matter whether you take the 8 games or gambled up to 24.

Think that will compensate for the one way or another according to the motto

If he does not want to pay you lose the Risk of 8-10 or 8-12

If he wants to pay you come up easy or he adjusts it in the game by pictures or extensions

You must not forget that he does not see the pictures, he can turn it so that exactly the amount comes out which is fixed in the system in advance

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16th Apr. 2021, at 09:39 am CEST#16
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gamble1 wrote on 15.04.2021 at 21:32
This could possibly be explained with a video of Knossi quite well because there it was once so he let his girlfriend at the time give all the answers and did not pay attention to the % display which was nevertheless always correct until I mean to the 50 spins high

I always find it remarkable with streamers when they let the viewers decide about such choices.
e.g. Peking Luck, you can choose the number of spins and the multiplier. I think 36 and x18 is the highest.
I always have to shake my head when streamers get upset that you choose a pick next to the best possible pick, and that people really think that if they had chosen one next to it, they would have chosen the highest possible potential.
Sure, as Julian wrote, there's no evidence to support the theory that it's a foregone conclusion.
But as often as they pick the lowest possible "potential" there, it's actually obvious.
These audience picks on streamers are just for entertainment.
At the end of the day, they are not physical fields but most likely pre-established free spin conditions that are dynamically selected and display a corresponding result depending on whether the slot wants to give. Since it is more likely to lose than to win is clear that mostly the low is selected.
Sure, a machine could also give more often the highest and if it has no desire to give even with the highest possible potential give you a bad free spins (example wwm 50 spins). But that would scratch the credibility of the Provider in the long run, at least rather than giving low potential more often and paying accordingly.
True to the motto, choose field 2 of 6 is the best result on 6 choose field 6 in the same decision possibility is the best result on 2.It does not matter what you press, the result is the same. I would put my hand in the fire for

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16th Apr. 2021, at 01:43 pm CEST#17
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Falke wrote on 16.04.2021 at 03:01
But with WwM and Extra Chilli I would be really interested if you get the same win if you take 8 free spins or come up to 24.

Or can you imagine it like this. In 8 freespins is a win of x 20 in it. In 12 a win of x30, in 16 a win of x100 and in 20 nothing at all because it doesn't go into the field there. Do you know what I mean?

I could actually imagine very well that the free spins (or the wins) are always "the same" at the beginning but can be continued, for example, if you start at WWM with 10 spins, because the Risk was too big for you to continue to gamble and the free spins to the effect that irrelevant of it then the same images come / are played as if you gamble yourself up to 50 games, and thus at least the "initial potential" in the free spins is always given.

But with the difference that in the first example the free spins already end after 10 spins, and in the other variant that the free spins are just continued.

As an example: You go into the free spins with 10 spins, you get after playing the 10 spins at the end a Multiplier of x12 and a win of 100.00€ and the free spins are then ended, if you had taken the risk at the beginning to continue to gamble, you could have had, for example, 40 more spins with an initial position of a x12 multiplier and a win of already 100.00€.

Similar to when a YouTube video normally goes for 5 minutes, but the video stops after 1 minute.

But as mentioned before, is just my personal way of thinking about it.

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16th Apr. 2021, at 04:12 pm CEST#18
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In most cases it is so that the spins you have earned more are all deadspins so that you have at the end of say 20 games 8-10 that give you a win and the rest are no connections on the field. So in the end it doesn't matter if you gamble high or take 8-10 games because as mentioned above everything is fixed in advance

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16th Apr. 2021, at 04:18 pm CEST#19
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Julian wrote on 16.04.2021 at 13:43
I could actually imagine very well that the free spins (or the winnings) are always "the same" but can be continued, for example, if you start at WWM with 10 spins, because the Risk was too big for you to continue to gamble and accept the free spins to the effect that there irrelevant of it then the same images come / are played as when you hochgambelst to 50 games, and thus at least the "initial potential" in the free spins is always given the same.

But with the difference that in the first example the free spins already end after 10 spins, and in the other variant that the free spins are just continued.

As an example: You go into the free spins with 10 spins, you get after playing the 10 spins at the end a Multiplier of x12 and a win of 100.00€ and the free spins are then ended, if you had taken the risk at the beginning to continue to gamble, you could have had, for example, 40 more spins with an initial position of a x12 multiplier and a win of already 100.00€.

Similar to when a YouTube video normally goes for 5 minutes, but the video stops after 1 minute.

But as mentioned before, is just my personal way of thinking about it.


Hmm, especially with Extra Chilli I don't think so.

You notice it when you have only 8 freespins, then the slot runs differently. So then he often gives in a few spins a high multi for example.

But in the end, unfortunately, no one knows for sure. Does Gamblejoe have no connections to any manufacturers or any casino owners who could know something like that? Would be really interesting to know

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16th Apr. 2021, at 04:40 pm CEST#20
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Falke wrote on 16.04.2021 at 16:18
Hmm, especially with Extra Chilli I rather don't think so.

You notice it when you have only 8 freespins, then the slot runs differently. So then he often gives in a few spins a high multi for example.

But in the end, unfortunately, no one knows for sure. Does Gamblejoe have no connections to any manufacturers or any casino owners who could know something like that? Would be really interesting to know.

That's the complex part, you can't know if the slot would have continued to bang up the multi if more spins were available, maybe it was just the beginning of a really heavy streak that ended too early due to the number of spins. - Therefore, we can all at the time only speculate on the subject.

Well, the casino owners themselves won't know such things, the only ones who could provide information about it would be the providers themselves.
With Big Time Gaming, for example, we are unfortunately not in contact, even back then when we sent a request for content purposes, there was no response from them even after more than 1-2 years.

There are 1-2 contact persons of providers I have personally on Skype and I can talk to them about the topic or ask for information
Whether the providers want to give information at all is of course questionable, but I can of course try it.

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