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Slot Games in general: Some questions about the gameplay (Page 2)

Topic created on 28th Sep. 2017 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 24 | Views: 5,806
TonioKroeger
Experienced
Thanks for the above explanations, which make perfect sense to me. Unfortunately, I probably can't play without anger, Tom . Playing is after all not rational, but emotional, at least with me, if some pseudoratio also wants to interfere.
Questions remain, though, such as the impression described in the other thread that something can be triggered by sudden changes in stakes, or that certain games "go better" than others. Yesterday, for example, I suddenly played a Netent game with high amounts and FS were "triggered" - in quotation marks, since according to the (scientific) random explanation nothing can be triggered.
It is also strange that my experience with sunmaker, which is recorded in the casino review, is that I won huge at the beginning (300 euros became 13,000), but then only lost. Once you, Daniel, had written somewhere, Quasar is now probably open…and strangely enough it was true, at least for me (so thanks for the Tip back then 😊 ). I can explain the "being open" schematically with the example of a number appearing twice or a color appearing ten times, but somehow still not quite, because other than a ball, it is some micro-process of the program, which, as Spielo noted, just runs a bit differently in FS mode. Greetings

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Daniel
Elite
Well, it was "open" for me at the time. But I'm glad it worked out so well for you. But sometimes it really is the case that all the machines run and many players win (whether online, in arcades or casinos). This is also part of the random distribution. Over a long period of time, all kinds of things happen ...

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spielo
Rookie
Hello Tonio,

what does it mean to be "open" on a machine! I'll try to explain it with a simple example, if you go to a casino today, where there are about 500 machines, you will see at least 30% (150 machines) in a free spin round where the guests are enjoying themselves and everyone else is chasing the winnings.
Let's go back to the technical side of online games. Games such as Merkur, Novoline, Netent etc are taken from their own manufacturer servers. So each of the over 3000 Online Casinos usually falls back on these servers. The whole multiplied by the players who are currently online comes a large sum of computing power for each individual game together.

Now it is with the games just like in the casino, each individual game is (I exaggerate now times) millionfold deposited on the respective server. At the Novos nice to see the lobby that is usually aligned with 100 and more machines per game. So it can happen that you have a good day and coincidentally always catch the right programming (RNG) which has just reached your percentage payout and awards free spins and winnings. Conversely, however, it usually runs like in the real casino, you pay in and it just comes nothing, online one speaks here immediately of fraud or rip-off!

because unlike a ball, it is some micro-process of the program, which, as Spielo noted, just runs a little differently in FS mode.

To keep a player happy, a machine also has to offer something special. In the past, there were only three-reel slots that paid out the highest winnings with the right combination. Today, it is complicated computing power that must offer a player entertainment and fun. Therefore, free spins, Scatters, wilds, etc. were invented, which in this combination run on a different program level. This does not change the RNG, which has already finished each game before it was started, it just runs on another level where there is a chance to experience other winnings in the situation of free spins etc.

The game of chance is and remains just luck, at the right slot at the right time.

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TonioKroeger
Experienced
Yes, I see it similarly. As for the happy RNG, it will be similar to the cases discussed above, I suppose, with the frequent choice of certain symbols.
For example, in free spins or any Bonuses you can sometimes choose something, in the bonus game of "Invisible Man" for example, characters, animals and other things, if it was triggered by the "Invisible Man". Now, it's probably obvious that the better the choices, the better it went before too, with a few exceptions. This "election" will end up showing what the other symbols would have given. That will probably be "show", right? Whereby I ask myself whether then the fraud would not already be fulfilled.

Of course, it gets dramatic with a Jackpot game like "Hall of Gods" (4.2 million) or "Book of Ra Jackpot", where - unlike "Joker Millions" - it is also possible to "choose", but which probably work differently (or with specific PNG) and without displayed alternative. Since it is now no longer a matter of just two questions, I have changed the heading of the section and hope that this is OK. Greetings

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Julian
Elite
With regard to the above-mentioned topic, I also wanted to briefly mention an example.

There are many people, especially many streamers, who collect all their Bonuses & free spins they get that evening at All Slots during a gambling session and play them all in a row at the end.

Here you can also see a little bit of the system that the free spins and thus the win is decided before you start them.
At Novomatic, for example, you can not "collect" the free spins because if you get free spins and close the game before the start, after about 5 minutes the win just automatically flows into the player's account.

And also with games like "Scruffy Duck" where you are spoilt for choice and can uncover various free spins features in the form of hidden symbols, I am sure that the servers of the respective game providers have already calculated both the course of the game as well as the game extension and the feature win itself and assigned it to the players as soon as you get the scatter.

It's just as mentioned above a psychological thing, the game manufacturers know that you can lure players with the feeling that they themselves can decide on the course of the game. Since the feeling is then all the greater when you draw the best feature or even the biggest coin win and the opinion is that you have taken influence on it.

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TonioKroeger
Experienced
Hello JulianK, very interesting, I did not know that, find it quite sobering (or frightening?), because that means in the consequence that all, allegedly random extensions (over 150 FS at L Lady or 90 at Book of RA etc. pp) would be scheduled or already decided, unless the player would be pointed out somewhere that it would run differently in case of interruption. The final sum without using the FS would then have to include the more frequent winning pictures, the theoretical extensions or Scatters during the FS.

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redriver67
Expert
I played Book of Rar the other day with a 40 cent bet and only 2 books came in. The third did not want to go in for the heck of it. Then I started to play with the stakes. 50 Cent, 80 Cent, 1 Euro. Always just a few spins. Then went back down to 50 cents and the books flew right in.
So it seems to me as if the bet level is decisive whether you get the free spins.
Sure you can now turn on 40 cents or so until you glow the fingers and finally times the free spins come. But have now made better experiences with the change of the bet level.
I also noticed that the win numbers generated by the random generator in free spins mode remains unchanged or does not continue to rotate. So should be in the free spins mode what wins / free spins extension, etc. everything is open or am I wrong micht there.

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Anonym
redriver67 wrote on 04.10.2017 at 16:31: Recently played Book of Rar with 40 cents bet and it always came only 2 books. The third one wouldn't go in for the life of me. Then I started to play with the stakes. 50 cents, 80 cents, 1 euro. Always just a few spins. Then went back down to 50 cents and the books flew right in.
So it seems to me as if the bet level is decisive whether you get the free spins.
Sure you can now turn on 40 cents or so until you glow the fingers and finally times the free spins come. But have now made better experiences with the change of the bet level.
I also noticed that the win numbers generated by the random generator in free spins mode remains unchanged or does not rotate. So everything should be open in the free spins mode in terms of winnings / free spins extension etc. or am I wrong there

Did you then get good FS after turning down even at 50 cents and won what? Then the "strategy" would be good

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redriver67
Expert
This was not meant as a strategy

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Anonym
redriver67 wrote on 05/10/2017 at 04:07: Now that was not meant as a strategy

But the question remains

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