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Slot Games in general: Question, slot machine at home?

Topic created on 15th Jun. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 28 | Views: 1,781
zocker0815
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Question, slot machine at home?

15th Jun. 2024, at 12:41 pm CEST#1
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Hello,

i have a question, is there anyone in our forum who has a Gamble machine at home in the hobby (party) room?

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Andre
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15th Jun. 2024, at 04:54 pm CEST#2
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I mean, Matthias used to have one. If he doesn't read this thread himself, I'll talk to him about it

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15th Jun. 2024, at 07:57 pm CEST#3
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zocker0815 wrote on 15.06.2024 at 12:41: Hello,

do we have a question is there anyone in the forum who has a Gamble machine at home in the hobby (party) room?

Yep, I have a few all devices that are out of the lineup

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roccoammo11
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15th Jun. 2024, at 08:12 pm CEST#4
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I still have an old one at home.

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Langhans_innen
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15th Jun. 2024, at 08:16 pm CEST#5
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I once had one too - bet 20 pfennigs. One with 3 rollers, crowns and huge buttons. It was still in the days of the Deutschmark and it was used for homework and the like on automatic - from DM 2.40 and DM 3.20 you could push it up to a maximum of 50 in the special games. So my son was still living at home and mom was always right anyway. It was gone... I think it was bought and sold for a few hundred marks...I have something like 300-400 in my head.

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slotliebe89
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16th Jun. 2024, at 03:02 pm CEST#6
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Unfortunately I don't have one. But I would probably prefer a pinball machine, even if it takes up even more space.

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Pat1991
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17th Jun. 2024, at 01:47 pm CEST#7
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I would be more interested in a modern Merkur Magic like that. As far as I know, however, the boxes are not intended for home use.

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17th Jun. 2024, at 02:24 pm CEST#8
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Pat1991 wrote on 06/17/2024 at 1:47 pm: I'd be more interested in one of those modern Merkur Magic. But as far as I know, the boxes are not intended for home use.

They are a bit complex to maintain due to unlock codes and a broken database or batteries that run out, causing the entire software to delete itself, but if you are willing to put in the effort you can also use the boxes at home without any problems

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Malganes
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17th Jun. 2024, at 05:39 pm CEST#9
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Pat1991 wrote on June 17, 2024 at 1:47 pm: I would be more interested in a modern Merkur Magic like that. But as far as I know, the boxes are not intended for home use.

gamble1 wrote on 06/17/2024 14:24:

Are a bit complex to maintain in terms of unlock codes and broken database or batteries that run out causing the entire software to delete itself but if you are willing to put in the effort you can also use the boxes at home without any problems

The question that immediately comes to mind is, how much would such a box cost? That would interest me. And what about the updates etc. for such a machine?


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17th Jun. 2024, at 07:39 pm CEST#10
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Malganes wrote on 17.06.2024 at 17:39:


The question that immediately comes to my mind would be, how much would such a box cost? That would interest me. And what about the updates ect. of such a machine?



The cost of such a box always varies greatly depending on how many are being sold, what games are on it and whether the Provider is a small-time crook


The older devices with Tr.4 are slowly becoming rarer again and therefore cost more than a few years ago and the devices after Tr.5 are also with GUTS 2.5k-6k because they could theoretically still be in the lineup except for the V1 boxes that were set up in the transition period

You can do updates on Merkur machines if you have a customer number with Gauselmann and defective databases can be replaced there for a small fee, which would be the legal way of course there are also very clever hobbyists who have managed to deactivate all security functions that were built into the databases by Gauselmann and are therefore already able to generate entire updates or even entire activation codes and prevent data loss due to empty batteries, but this is not the legal way, which nobody can actually influence with a machine that is in your home

The important thing is to simply set up a Merkur and have fun forever, I would rather advise a Bally or Novo as neither have a database model but entire computers with game modules that do not self-destruct if the battery runs out and can easily be expanded with updates

All in all you can be lucky but newer multigamers always cost you at least 1.3k

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Malganes
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17th Jun. 2024, at 09:41 pm CEST#11
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gamble1 wrote on 17.06.2024 at 19:39:

What such a box costs always varies greatly depending on how many are sold, what games are on it and whether the Provider is a small crook


The older devices with Tr.4 are slowly becoming rarer again and therefore they cost more than a few years ago and the devices after Tr.5 are also with GUTS 2.5k-6k because they could theoretically still be in the lineup except for the V1 boxes that were set up in the transition period

You can do updates on Merkur machines if you have a customer number with Gauselmann and defective databases can be replaced there for a small fee, which would be the legal way of course there are also very clever hobbyists who have managed to deactivate all security functions that were built into the databases by Gauselmann and are therefore already able to generate entire updates or even entire activation codes and prevent data loss due to empty batteries, but this is not the legal way, which nobody can actually influence with a machine that is in your home

The important thing is to simply set up a Merkur and have fun forever, I would rather advise a Bally or Novo as neither have a database model but entire computers with game modules that do not self-destruct if the battery runs out and can easily be expanded with updates

All in all, you may be lucky but newer multigamers will always cost you at least 1.3k

Thank you for the detailed information At least 1.3k? Wow, that's quite a lot of money, of course. And the newer devices are "already" available from 2.5k-6k. What's more, I definitely don't want to have a customer number with Gauselmann^^. Then, as you say, I'd rather have a Bally or Novo at home.

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18th Jun. 2024, at 01:19 am CEST#12
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Malganes wrote on 17.06.2024 at 21:41:

Thank you for the detailed information At least 1.3k? Wow, that's quite a lot of money, of course. And from 2.5k-6k the newer devices are "already" available. What's more, I definitely don't want to have a customer number with Gauselmann^^. Then, as you say, I'd rather have a Bally or Novo at home.

Well, I think Gauselmann doesn't want to give you one so easily either haha they only give them to commercial operators or companies that take over the technical maintenance for their customers, like I did for a long time


Yes the prices are awesome but keep in mind that they are not designed to hang in the party basement at all, usually the price is ok because they will have recouped it in a few weeks if used properly

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Maria_Sonntag
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19th Jun. 2024, at 11:16 am CEST#13
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Malganes wrote on 17.06.2024 at 17:39:


The question that immediately comes to mind would be, how much would such a box cost? That would interest me. And what about the updates ect. of such a machine?



Now I'll add my two cents: 1) You can't buy Novos, you can only rent them. So you can forget about them. 2.) Of course they are not designed for home use. 3.) With adp and also with Bally, things can break. A new database is not rocket science either and with a bit of luck from google you can also find appropriate sites that provide help and advice and also, for example, supply new codes that you need from time to time for Bally. And: You would also theoretically need a customer number from Bally, they don't just supply any parts to private individuals on demand. So it doesn't matter whether you take a Bally or a Gauselmann. 4.) Prices: Depends primarily on the cabinet: floor-standing machines are generally more expensive than wall-mounted machines. Do you want a multigamer or a roller machine? What is your budget? 5.) Updates are usually also available on the sites mentioned under point 3. But of course it is clear: For TR4 devices, for example, only the games from TR4 are available.

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Maria_Sonntag
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Question, slot machine at home?

19th Jun. 2024, at 11:17 am CEST#14
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slotliebe89 wrote on 16.06.2024 at 15:02: Unfortunately I don't have one. But I would probably prefer a pinball machine, even if it takes up even more space.

Above all, you would need someone who can still repair these things.

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19th Jun. 2024, at 11:57 am CEST#15
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Maria_Sonntag wrote on 19.06.2024 at 11:16 am:

Now I'll add my two cents: 1) You can't buy Novos, you can only rent them. So you can forget about them. 2.) Of course they were not designed for home use. 3.) With adp and also with Bally, things can break. A new database is not rocket science either and with a bit of luck from google you can also find appropriate sites that provide help and advice and also, for example, supply new codes that you need from time to time for Bally. And: You would also theoretically need a customer number from Bally, they don't just supply any parts to private individuals on demand. So it doesn't matter whether you take a Bally or a Gauselmann. 4.) Prices: Depends primarily on the cabinet: floor-standing machines are generally more expensive than wall-mounted machines. Do you want a multigamer or a roller machine? What is your budget? 5.) Updates are usually also available on the sites mentioned under point 3. But of course it is clear: For TR4 devices, for example, only the games from TR4 are available.

A Bally and a Novo are much easier to maintain than one from Merkur due to the structure of a pure PC version, and you can also get data online from the right people there and update your computers very easily


I know what kind of sites you mean where you can find the right people for codes and everything but I'll tell you how it is with Bally I had two game versions that were unlocked until the year 2300 with all kinds of game packages that you just wanted to have installed once and the thing runs but with Merkur 4 boxes even got resold the 1 had a DB damage after 2 weeks despite a brand new database from Gauselmann the 2 had empty batteries the third constantly had a hopper error and only the 4 worked for 2 years but was also f**ked up afterwards

Of course you can find the right people for everything and of course you need a customer number for all manufacturers but it is simply a fact that you should come into contact with Bally and Novo much less often than with Merkur due to the paranoid data policy and their databases, especially since almost everything costs money and even if it is only in the enthusiast forum the shipping money which you can save if you don't buy such sensitive Merkur boxes if you can't take care of everything yourself

Novos can be bought very well you take older game packages Novoline 3 or even older Magic Games 1 & 2 and the cases of decommissioned boxes and connect everything so new things nobody wants anyway

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