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Slot Games in general: Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence? (Page 6)

Topic created on 02nd Nov. 2023 | Page: 6 of 6 | Answers: 88 | Views: 7,914
Der_Puppenspieler
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

7th Apr. 2024, at 04:05 am CEST#76
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Offline, I have a completely different theory.

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frapi07
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

7th Apr. 2024, at 10:24 am CEST#77
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Der_Puppenspieler wrote on 07.04.2024 at 04:05: Offline I have a completely different theory.

Yes, I have that too. Here are my theories:

The arcade supervisor has a program in the service area (where the camera images can be seen) where they can control the machines. This allows the machines to be opened. The check regarding the OASIS block is actually a cover. They scan how often you play and when you're there for the first time, they use the program to set the machine so that you win. This increases the addictive factor.

The machines have an eye scanner. The machine scans your retina and automatically creates a player profile. At the beginning you have an AQ of 90%. This AQ then drops significantly as you play more often.

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R3hab
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

7th Apr. 2024, at 10:28 am CEST#78
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frapi07 wrote on 07.04.2024 at 10:24 am:

Yes, I have those too. Here are my theories:

The arcade supervisor has a program in the service area (where the camera images can be seen) where they can control the machines. This allows the machines to be opened. The check regarding the OASIS block is actually a cover. They scan how often you play and when you're there for the first time, they use the program to set the machine so that you win. This increases the addictive factor.

The machines have an eye scanner. The machine scans your retina and automatically creates a player profile. At the beginning you have an AQ of 90%. This AQ then drops significantly as you play more often.

That's roughly how it works 😂👍

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MisterL
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

7th Apr. 2024, at 12:17 pm CEST#79
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i can also confirm this from experience

in the past, when someone cheated in the West, blue beans flew

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frapi07
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

7th Apr. 2024, at 12:24 pm CEST#80
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MisterL wrote on 07.04.2024 at 12:17: I can also confirm from experience

in the past, when someone cheated in the West, blue beans flew

In the West, nobody used to dare to cheat. Bud Spencer kept things in order.

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Pat1991
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

17th Aug. 2024, at 04:09 pm CEST#81
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From 11:42. quote "Every single spin in free games is still determined by the RNG."

So once again the opposite statement.

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frapi07
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

17th Aug. 2024, at 04:50 pm CEST#82
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Pat1991 wrote on 08/17/2024 16:09:
From 11:42. quote "Every single turn in free spins is still determined by the RNG."

So once again the opposite statement.

I don't know if it makes any difference, but the guy is talking about Slot Machines, i.e. Slot machines and not online slots. The game itself is the same, but the mechanism is not.

I found the following, as I can't post links etc., I have translated it:

"There is no clear answer to your question because as long as the overriding outcome is random, there is no rule that says the bonus itself must be random or predetermined.

1. You buy a bonus where the outcome is randomized, so regardless of what you get, you will win, say, 50x.

2. You buy a bonus, each spin in the bonus is random, but it has been predetermined (by random selection) that your outcome would be e.g. 15 spins and the 7x multiplier.

3.You buy a bonus and every spin is random, every spin is random.

These are all legitimate ways in which a Slot machine is allowed to operate under the law. So the answer is: only the Provider can tell you for sure how a particular game works, and they probably won't. The only thing that is absolutely necessary is that the outcome of your bet was random in one way or another."

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Maximb81

Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

29th Aug. 2024, at 01:55 pm CEST#83
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I have noticed at some casinos that if they give you 20 spins, for example, and the last spin is still spinning, the message no win, exit game appears

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Falke
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

30th Aug. 2024, at 03:05 am CEST#84
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frapi07 wrote on 07.04.2024 at 10:24 am:

Yes, I have those too. Here are my theories:

The arcade supervisor has a program in the service area (where the camera images can be seen) where they can control the machines. This allows the machines to be opened. The check regarding the OASIS block is actually a cover. They scan how often you play and when you're there for the first time, they use the program to set the machine so that you win. This increases the addictive factor.

The machines have an eye scanner. The machine scans your retina and automatically creates a player profile. At the beginning you have an AQ of 90%. This AQ then drops significantly as you play more often.

And believe it or not, that's how it works to some extent. And I know this from very reliable sources.


In arcades, the machines are definitely changed. Sometimes the payout is set higher and sometimes lower. There are even fixed times for this. They are usually set higher when people tend to have no money, i.e. in the middle/end of the month, etc. Yes, even the time of year plays a role. This gives them more gaming capital. People have to be kept in line and every casino/gambling hall owner knows very well that any money won is only borrowed money anyway, which the players bring back.

So as funny as you meant your post to be, it's definitely partly true. But when you write something like that here, nobody wants to believe it again.

I don't know if it works the same way online. But why not? With offline halls, I don't just believe it, I know it for sure.

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frapi07
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

30th Aug. 2024, at 09:27 am CEST#85
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Falke wrote on 30.08.2024 at 03:05:

And believe it or not, that's exactly how it works to some extent. And I know that from very reliable sources.


In arcades, the machines are definitely changed. Sometimes the payout is set higher and sometimes lower. There are even fixed times for this. They are usually set higher when people tend to have no money, i.e. in the middle/end of the month, etc. Yes, even the time of year plays a role. This gives them more gaming capital. People have to be kept in line and every casino/gambling hall owner knows very well that any money won is only borrowed money anyway, which the players bring back.

So as funny as you meant your post to be, it's definitely partly true. But when you write something like that here, nobody wants to believe it again.

I don't know if it works the same way online. But why not? With offline halls, I don't just believe it, I know it for sure.

Unfortunately, I haven't been to the halls that often and I don't know any of the owners, but I can well imagine that they do this (and of course meet the minimum payout ratio). At least offline, I can imagine it, as I've seen some reports that have revealed things that you wouldn't normally believe. But there's no point in explaining that here because it didn't take place in Germany. But you could tell when the machine was "open" using software. All you had to do was perform a simple calculation.

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Max_Bet
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

31st Aug. 2024, at 06:17 pm CEST#86
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Falke wrote on 30.08.2024 at 03:05:And believe it or not, that's exactly how it works to some extent. And I know that from very reliable sources.
In arcades, the machines are definitely switched over. Sometimes the payout is switched higher and sometimes lower. There are even fixed times for this. They are usually set higher when people tend to have no money, i.e. in the middle/end of the month, etc. Yes, even the time of year plays a role.

I could even imagine that, like at the petrol station, the "price" or the price/win ratio is regulated several times a day ... Except that, unlike oil, games are not traded on the stock exchange, so the "price/win" ratio would depend on other factors...

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roccoammo11
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31st Aug. 2024, at 08:03 pm CEST#87
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Falke wrote on 30.08.2024 at 03:05:

And believe it or not, that's exactly how it works to some extent. And I know that from very reliable sources.


In arcades, the machines are definitely changed. Sometimes the payout is set higher and sometimes lower. There are even fixed times for this. They are usually set higher when people tend to have no money, i.e. in the middle/end of the month, etc. Yes, even the time of year plays a role. This gives them more gaming capital. People have to be kept in line and every casino/gambling hall owner knows very well that any money won is only borrowed money anyway, which the players bring back.

So as funny as you meant your post to be, it's definitely partly true. But when you write something like that here, nobody wants to believe it again.

I don't know if it works the same way online. But why not? With offline halls, I don't just believe it, I know it for sure.

And which time of year is the best? for the player, of course!


I used to think that when the machines are "empty" you can forget about wins and vice versa...but I now know for sure that I was wrong...the internal money storage doesn't matter at all

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frapi07
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

31st Aug. 2024, at 08:40 pm CEST#88
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roccoammo11 wrote on August 31st, 2024 at 8:03 pm:

And what time of year do you think is best then... for the player of course!!!


I used to think that when the machines are "empty" you can forget about wins & the other way around...but I now know for sure that I was wrong...the internal money storage plays absolutely no role

I used to think the same thing when I was new to the "business", but I often read here that the supervisors used to fill the machines more often, so it was clear to me that I was wrong back then.

At what time of year is the RTP increased? I think in winter.... because they have fewer customers in summer. Vacations, beer gardens, etc... that's when the RTP is increased... but that's just a guess.

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Falke
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Gates Of Olympus: Free spins not just a coincidence?

31st Aug. 2024, at 10:39 pm CEST#89
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roccoammo11 wrote on August 31st, 2024 at 8:03 pm:

And what time of year do you think is best then... for the player of course!!!


I used to think that when the machines are "empty" you can forget about wins & the other way around...but I now know for sure that I was wrong..the internal money storage plays absolutely no role

Of course, I can't tell you exactly and it's been a while since I received this information. It will also be the case that each arcade has its own statistics and adjusts them accordingly. So it can also vary slightly from region to region.


What I do know for sure is that January and February are probably the worst months for an arcade. Conversely, you can therefore assume that they tend to turn the machines up a little higher so that people stay longer and visit more often.

Basically, you have to imagine that every arcade knows exactly when the most money comes in and has precise statistics. And you don't just want the money from the players, you also want your own store to be reasonably full. If an arcade is completely empty, it tends to put off new customers.

From this perspective, it may even be the case that an arcade that is always full to the brim, regardless of how much people lose, may not be screwing around at all, but the RTP is simply always as low as possible. Maybe somewhere in tourist areas where people change frequently, etc.
These are my own thoughts on the matter.

But I know for sure that it will be changed based on the statistics. At least I know that for some arcades.

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