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10th Dec. 2018, at 12:01 am CET#31
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Kaffeelicht wrote on 09/12/2018 at 23:37
Yes it is, and whether it is criminal. Moreover, there have already been proceedings for insults, where one called the other "ar***ch".
One can also educate oneself in this area. As I said, the BGB is our friend.
And no, I have not written that I report bones
The reference of criminal relevance to it served the purpose of showing bone that you can not allow yourself everything on the net, because it is just so much fun.
If he can not reason without demeaning other people, that speaks volumes.
Criminal offenses, however, are dealt with in the StGB. Wanted to shit smart
To the thread: I also sometimes have the impression that I would have more luck in fun mode. But I would also not get the idea to subject the whole thing to a study
Many factors probably play a role here, which have already been mentioned here
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10th Dec. 2018, at 10:01 am CET#32
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To come back to the first post, I am firmly convinced that slots keep their RTP at x spins regardless of fun mode or real money based on the mathematical calculation of the slot manufacturers. This RTP is achievable for every player or is inevitably reached at some point, so someone can in theory also clear several jackpots in a row, it is just a very rare event similar to how some people have multiple 5-6 correct tipped in the lottery. Rare, but not impossible.
Otherwise there would be no sense to hire mathematicians for the production of the slots, they calculate all winning combinations through and thereby also determine the RTP. My earlier tests have shown that the RTP is always reached at some point, but sometimes it takes an extremely long time and you are still in the red. But that such a thing persists is normal and will never go out of the minds of the players. I mean even casino operators are afraid of some games, some have created huge lists of games that you should not play with bonus - probably made bad experiences with it.
The reference of criminal relevance to this served the purpose of showing bones, that you can't get away with everything on the net because it's just so much fun.
Interesting how you refer to law and order, but when it comes to online gambling,
you seem to suppress what is right and law in the FRG
Double standards, or a personal gray area ?
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Fun mode vs real money
10th Dec. 2018, at 11:21 am CET#34
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 12/10/2018 at 11:06 AM
Interesting how you refer to law and order, but when it comes to online gambling,
you seem to suppress what is right and law in the FRG
Double standard, or a personal gray area ?
Aha, because online gambling is a legal gray area and legal under EU law in EU-licensed casinos, you are of the opinion that one no longer has to abide by laws, the personal right may be quietly undermined and no rules apply?
Interesting.
Then you may now, and only because of the case law in Germany regarding online gambling, overall do what you want. Also here in the forum then. So we are no longer bound by any rules. Okay, that's a fascinating and questionable way of thinking.
If this is to become a general legal debate, you could also open a new topic.
Lucifer, right. I was so engrossed in the BGB here in the office that I had it in my head while writing.
Ankor, I wasn't talking about the RTP, though.
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10th Dec. 2018, at 11:38 am CET#35
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Kaffeelicht wrote on 10.12.2018 at 11:21 am
Aha, because online gambling is a legal grey area and legal under EU law in EU-licensed casinos, you are of the opinion that overall laws no longer need to be obeyed, personal rights may be quietly undermined and rules no longer apply?
Interesting.
Then you may now, and only because of the case law in Germany regarding online gambling, overall do what you want. Also here in the forum then. So we are no longer bound by any rules. Okay, that's a fascinating and questionable way of thinking.
If this is to become a general legal debate, you could also open a new topic.
Lucifer, right. I was so engrossed in the BGB here in the office that I had it in my head while writing.
Ankor, I wasn't talking about the RTP, though.
Assuming the chance for Fun Mode is indeed different then the algorithm would have to be different as well. Say there is no influence, are they the same then the chances would be identical.
The question of fraud or not does not arise here for the time being. My reference to the RTP was in the context that the slots are mathematically calculated.
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10th Dec. 2018, at 11:40 am CET#36
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Kaffeelicht is not yet locked? Must be because every forum needs a court jester
Often play fun modes especially in LoE to see if many pyramids come today. Was also then times so that in fun mode no Scatter came and I have transacted a few minutes later on real money a few spins and free spins just hail
I myself doubt very much that the slots run better in Fun mode.
Since I spend quite a lot of time testing All Slots in Fun Mode or in Real Money Mode, I have often had the experience that I needed 1-2 hours in Fun Mode to even get into the free spins.
Likewise, you can also test it yourself at any time by testing the demos on Gamblejoe itself.
For example, if you start the demo of "White Rabbit" and buy the bonus feature in Fun mode, you will quickly notice that there is no real difference.
Julian wrote on 10/12/2018 at 11:45: I myself also highly doubt that the slots run better in Fun mode.
Since I spend quite a lot of time testing All Slots in Fun Mode or in Real Money Mode, I have also relatively often made the experience that I have for example in Fun Mode felt 1-2 hours needed to even get into the free spins.
Likewise, you can also test it yourself at any time by testing the demos on Gamblejoe itself.
For example, if you start the demo of "White Rabbit" and buy the bonus feature in Fun mode, you will quickly notice that there is no real difference.
I have bought White Rabbit 50 times in Fun Mode. And exactly three times with real money. And my biggest win by far was 1800x in real money. Otherwise, I have rarely reached even the 100x.
With the game Bonanza it was like you wrote. I did not know that at all but here in the forum was constantly written about it, so I wanted to try it. I played the 1000€ play money 3 times completely on 0 before the first time free spins came, which ran then also still badly. With real money it never ran particularly, but never so bad
test games and real money games run on different servers and are separated from each other.
anything else would probably also create some "problematic" cross effects oO
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Criminal offenses, however, are dealt with in the StGB. Wanted to shit smart
To the thread: I also sometimes have the impression that I would have more luck in fun mode. But I would also not get the idea to subject the whole thing to a study
Many factors probably play a role here, which have already been mentioned here
LG to all!
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Otherwise there would be no sense to hire mathematicians for the production of the slots, they calculate all winning combinations through and thereby also determine the RTP. My earlier tests have shown that the RTP is always reached at some point, but sometimes it takes an extremely long time and you are still in the red. But that such a thing persists is normal and will never go out of the minds of the players. I mean even casino operators are afraid of some games, some have created huge lists of games that you should not play with bonus - probably made bad experiences with it.
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Interesting how you refer to law and order, but when it comes to online gambling,
you seem to suppress what is right and law in the FRG
Double standards, or a personal gray area ?
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Aha, because online gambling is a legal gray area and legal under EU law in EU-licensed casinos, you are of the opinion that one no longer has to abide by laws, the personal right may be quietly undermined and no rules apply?
Interesting.
Then you may now, and only because of the case law in Germany regarding online gambling, overall do what you want. Also here in the forum then. So we are no longer bound by any rules. Okay, that's a fascinating and questionable way of thinking.
If this is to become a general legal debate, you could also open a new topic.
Lucifer, right. I was so engrossed in the BGB here in the office that I had it in my head while writing.
Ankor, I wasn't talking about the RTP, though.
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Assuming the chance for Fun Mode is indeed different then the algorithm would have to be different as well. Say there is no influence, are they the same then the chances would be identical.
The question of fraud or not does not arise here for the time being. My reference to the RTP was in the context that the slots are mathematically calculated.
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Often play fun modes especially in LoE to see if many pyramids come today. Was also then times so that in fun mode no Scatter came and I have transacted a few minutes later on real money a few spins and free spins just hail
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Since I spend quite a lot of time testing All Slots in Fun Mode or in Real Money Mode, I have often had the experience that I needed 1-2 hours in Fun Mode to even get into the free spins.
Likewise, you can also test it yourself at any time by testing the demos on Gamblejoe itself.
For example, if you start the demo of "White Rabbit" and buy the bonus feature in Fun mode, you will quickly notice that there is no real difference.
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I have bought White Rabbit 50 times in Fun Mode. And exactly three times with real money. And my biggest win by far was 1800x in real money. Otherwise, I have rarely reached even the 100x.
With the game Bonanza it was like you wrote. I did not know that at all but here in the forum was constantly written about it, so I wanted to try it. I played the 1000€ play money 3 times completely on 0 before the first time free spins came, which ran then also still badly. With real money it never ran particularly, but never so bad
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anything else would probably also create some "problematic" cross effects oO
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Both pay equally well or equally badly.
Yesterday I made about 1500 spins in the slot Madame Destiny with a bet of 2 euros each.
Result; One time free spins with a win of about 80x.
So if you want to lure with the fun mode, there would have been more rum.
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