Kaffeelicht wrote on 09/12/2018 at 16:53: Bones, it is irrelevant if you think something is misinterpreted. Actually, I don't even feel like arguing against your overloyalty all the time anymore either.
I have definitely more luck in fun mode. Since I can judge that much better in my own sessions than you or anyone else, I don't take your objection seriously either.
I'm also not going to spend hours or days recording all the spins to present empirical data to you, of all people.
As for your first paragraph, even if it is again completely in vain:
A slot does not throw high wins indefinitely. If everything runs through the same server, it makes no difference to the Random Number Generator whether something runs with play money or real money. Unless there is a rule that differentiates between the two. I don't know, that's why I'm asking myself this question.
So if there is no difference, the probability of a win with real money decreases if high wins have already been made in fun mode.
Since there are more players playing the slots in fun mode than in real money mode, the probability that the randomly thrown high wins go to fun mode and don't come in real money mode for a while increases. Or vice versa.
As I said, if a slot does not make a difference between real or play money.
If someone has exact info, please share.
Ohjemine. Definitely more luck but nothing documented to prove it? So probably not definitely but felt? Be at least honest with yourself. A statement without any proof is nothing definite
This connection from fun mode to real money mode is only made by very stubborn players, really. Fun mode can be played in almost any casino without registration, even here at GJ it is possible to test games this way. The data from it is probably not even stored. No casino pays license fees for the spins in Fun Mode. I have won in Fun mode a few weeks ago in the game Roman Legion on 100 € bet times almost 250,000 € in the free spins. Does that mean that all people who played after that have worse chances of winning or how can I imagine your theory?
Whether fun or real money, the RTP of a game is fixed and the math works. Spin any Netent slot 1000 times and be amazed at how close you are to the RTP, fun or real money doesn't matter. Or refuse the simplest methods of Verification and continue to use polemics, with the firm knowledge that you are guaranteed to find encouragement here. In a forum where 80% are convinced of more than daring theories without solid ground anyway
For me, the games run in fun mode just as bad as with echtfwld vllt even worse
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Bones wrote on 12/09/2018 at 5:01 pm
Ohjemine. Definitely more luck but nothing documented to back that up? So I guess not definite but felt after all? At least be honest with yourself. A claim without any evidence is nothing definitive
Very amusing that just you say this, since you constantly make claims that you can not prove even once.
The difference between us is that I write from my own experience. You, on the other hand, simply make all-encompassing claims.
While I write that I have better luck in fun mode, you write that no one has better luck in fun mode. Do you see the difference?
You make general assertions that are presented as fact; I, on the other hand, share my own experience and don't apply that to everyone.
You = unsubstantiated fact,
i = experience report.
You deny me my own experiences. You could just as well say that I didn't like my breakfast and that I misinterpret that. And that I better test my breakfast every day for a year to see if I really like it....
Not so, bones. If there were in block function here in the forum, you would be already long on my list.
The rest is again only assumption from you, which has nothing to do with what I wrote. I did not speak of the invidual RTP
Maybe someone knows more, it's not you.
In my experience, I have so far found only one game operator where I would claim that the fun mode throws out more and that is at playtech slots. there I once tested a slot, I think it's called Six Million Dollar Man and had a special spin that cost twice the bet and nan had the chsnce on mejr Wilds. with the 100 euros start money km fun mode you could get within a very short time and increasing stake on 100k. no matter how many times I have tested ... it has always worked and have thought that the two modes should actually be the same and it is vllt a bug. have then paid 50 euros to test it in real money mode. was very sobering the casino is called Casino.com
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Bones wrote on 09/12/2018 at 17:28: You = Subjective assessment of a psyche impaired by perceptual disorders
I = Objective numbers
You = I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT ALL THE TIME I'M RIGHT
I = Ohjemine
If you have no idea about psychology, you should definitely avoid making remote diagnoses to elevate yourself.
In addition, one must be very careful in principle with it to impute mental illnesses to other humans, since they are defamatory and slanderous and fulfill the criminal offence.
I think that an admin should also intervene here. People have already been admonished for less
I try now again to explain it to you:
While you present your personal opinion/conviction (for whatever reason you have it so pronounced...) as a comprehensive and irrefutable fact, I report my own experiences.
If I had written that everyone has better luck in fun mode, you would be right, then I would have made an assertion that requires evidence.
However, I didn't.
Instead, I wrote that me (<--- moi, me, je..) is basically and definitely luckier in fun mode.
That's not an all-encompassing claim that applies to everyone else.
Ergo, I don't have to prove anything.
I could also have written "<ygt></ygt>I think that<ygt></ygt> you always have more luck in fun mode"... This also does not need any proof, because it would represent an opinion based on my own experience.
On the other hand, you would have to prove why someone misinterprets something, although you cannot even begin to judge it.
You were not and never are there. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that could qualify you in any way to deny someone their own experience and to judge what they have experienced.
Nothing
Instead, you transfer your own, subjective, personal opinion to others and impute misinterpretation and perceptual disorder.
Note: your subjective opinion. This is obviously so strongly pronounced that you cannot imagine anything else than that others have to share it.
However, psychology has a lot to say about this.
I don't know where your intense and pronounced loyalty towards casinos comes from. There must be some reason.
Either you have something to do with it or you have your own reasons.
But... does the Milgram experiment tell you something?
I repeat: I (<--- see this word) definitely and without a doubt have more luck in fun mode. Both in terms of frequency of free spins, bonus features and wilds, and ultimate wins.
I know it so exactly because I am there when I play...;)
Is clear... ne?
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Bone wrote on 09/12/2018 at 17:01
The data from this is probably not even stored.
Since I am currently online with a tablet, the game search does not work for me at Videoslots if I am not logged in.
So when I want to test a game I do the following:
I log in, search for the game and load it.
Then I log out again and I have the game at the top of my recently played games, logged out.
Now that doesn't mean much, just that apparently the IP is tracked even in play money mode.
Random wrote on 09/12/2018 at 22:35
Since I am currently online with a tablet, the game search does not work for me at Videoslots when I am not logged in.
So when I want to test a game I do the following:
I log in, search for the game and load it.
Then I log out again and I have the game at the top of my recently played games, logged out.
Now that doesn't mean much, just that apparently the IP is tracked even in play money mode.
But as I said, you can also test the games in play money mode on Gamblejoe itself. I often test games on SlotsMillion, where I am not even registered. It is clear that such sites use all kinds of cookies. But you can't conclude that wins in play money mode would somehow influence the chances of winning in real money mode. So of course you can, if you really look very hard for reasons for your own failure
@Kaffeelicht: I just skimmed your post and think I already said everything with "ohjemine". By the way, a perception error is not a mental illness. In fact, every human being is subject to these errors because all stimuli after processing the signals are only a subjective interpretation of the actual. So if you have no idea about law and psychology you can leave it alone
Can't say anything about it, never play in fun mode.
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Bone wrote on 09/12/2018 at 22:52
But as I said, you can also test the games in play money mode on Gamblejoe itself, for example. I often test play on SlotsMillion, I'm not even registered there. It is clear that such sites use all kinds of cookies. But you can't conclude that wins in play money mode would somehow influence the chances of winning in real money mode. So of course you can, if you really look very hard for reasons for your own failure
@Kaffeelicht: I just skimmed your post and think I already said everything with "ohjemine". By the way, a perception error is not a mental illness. In fact, every person is subject to these errors because all stimuli after processing the signals are only a subjective interpretation of the actual. So if you have no idea about law and psychology you can leave it alone.
Yes, one cannot deduce from it that therefore something is manipulated, that is a completely different topic.
I only referred to the fact that the IP address is also tracked in fun mode.
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Ohjemine. Definitely more luck but nothing documented to prove it? So probably not definitely but felt? Be at least honest with yourself. A statement without any proof is nothing definite
This connection from fun mode to real money mode is only made by very stubborn players, really. Fun mode can be played in almost any casino without registration, even here at GJ it is possible to test games this way. The data from it is probably not even stored. No casino pays license fees for the spins in Fun Mode. I have won in Fun mode a few weeks ago in the game Roman Legion on 100 € bet times almost 250,000 € in the free spins. Does that mean that all people who played after that have worse chances of winning or how can I imagine your theory?
Whether fun or real money, the RTP of a game is fixed and the math works. Spin any Netent slot 1000 times and be amazed at how close you are to the RTP, fun or real money doesn't matter. Or refuse the simplest methods of Verification and continue to use polemics, with the firm knowledge that you are guaranteed to find encouragement here. In a forum where 80% are convinced of more than daring theories without solid ground anyway
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Very amusing that just you say this, since you constantly make claims that you can not prove even once.
The difference between us is that I write from my own experience. You, on the other hand, simply make all-encompassing claims.
While I write that I have better luck in fun mode, you write that no one has better luck in fun mode. Do you see the difference?
You make general assertions that are presented as fact; I, on the other hand, share my own experience and don't apply that to everyone.
You = unsubstantiated fact,
i = experience report.
You deny me my own experiences. You could just as well say that I didn't like my breakfast and that I misinterpret that. And that I better test my breakfast every day for a year to see if I really like it....
Not so, bones. If there were in block function here in the forum, you would be already long on my list.
The rest is again only assumption from you, which has nothing to do with what I wrote. I did not speak of the invidual RTP
Maybe someone knows more, it's not you.
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I = Ohjemine
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If you have no idea about psychology, you should definitely avoid making remote diagnoses to elevate yourself.
In addition, one must be very careful in principle with it to impute mental illnesses to other humans, since they are defamatory and slanderous and fulfill the criminal offence.
I think that an admin should also intervene here. People have already been admonished for less
I try now again to explain it to you:
While you present your personal opinion/conviction (for whatever reason you have it so pronounced...) as a comprehensive and irrefutable fact, I report my own experiences.
If I had written that everyone has better luck in fun mode, you would be right, then I would have made an assertion that requires evidence.
However, I didn't.
Instead, I wrote that me (<--- moi, me, je..) is basically and definitely luckier in fun mode.
That's not an all-encompassing claim that applies to everyone else.
Ergo, I don't have to prove anything.
I could also have written "<ygt></ygt>I think that<ygt></ygt> you always have more luck in fun mode"... This also does not need any proof, because it would represent an opinion based on my own experience.
On the other hand, you would have to prove why someone misinterprets something, although you cannot even begin to judge it.
You were not and never are there. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that could qualify you in any way to deny someone their own experience and to judge what they have experienced.
Nothing
Instead, you transfer your own, subjective, personal opinion to others and impute misinterpretation and perceptual disorder.
Note: your subjective opinion. This is obviously so strongly pronounced that you cannot imagine anything else than that others have to share it.
However, psychology has a lot to say about this.
I don't know where your intense and pronounced loyalty towards casinos comes from. There must be some reason.
Either you have something to do with it or you have your own reasons.
But... does the Milgram experiment tell you something?
I repeat: I (<--- see this word) definitely and without a doubt have more luck in fun mode. Both in terms of frequency of free spins, bonus features and wilds, and ultimate wins.
I know it so exactly because I am there when I play...;)
Is clear... ne?
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Since I am currently online with a tablet, the game search does not work for me at Videoslots if I am not logged in.
So when I want to test a game I do the following:
I log in, search for the game and load it.
Then I log out again and I have the game at the top of my recently played games, logged out.
Now that doesn't mean much, just that apparently the IP is tracked even in play money mode.
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But as I said, you can also test the games in play money mode on Gamblejoe itself. I often test games on SlotsMillion, where I am not even registered. It is clear that such sites use all kinds of cookies. But you can't conclude that wins in play money mode would somehow influence the chances of winning in real money mode. So of course you can, if you really look very hard for reasons for your own failure
@Kaffeelicht: I just skimmed your post and think I already said everything with "ohjemine". By the way, a perception error is not a mental illness. In fact, every human being is subject to these errors because all stimuli after processing the signals are only a subjective interpretation of the actual. So if you have no idea about law and psychology you can leave it alone
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Yes, one cannot deduce from it that therefore something is manipulated, that is a completely different topic.
I only referred to the fact that the IP address is also tracked in fun mode.
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