Slot Games in general: Experience - What is more financially worthwhile? Higher bets or more rounds of play?

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Scatter777 wrote on 06.01.2025 at 02:27: Hello everyone,

i know, there is basically no right or wrong, because everything is based on chance. And under no circumstances should you play for financial reasons. I'm sure no one has ever done that. It's all just for the entertainment value But I'll ask anyway. What are your experiences? Incidentally, I only play with providers with a German license, so high bets are not possible anyway. By high I mean only €0.80 to €1.00.

If I play on 10 or 20 cents, I don't need to Risk that much bet. So I can play many rounds with relatively little bet. On the one hand, this is good because the more rounds, the more chances of winning. On the other hand, it's bad because the more rounds I play, the more the house advantage works against me and, in addition, the individual possible wins are lower than with higher bets.

I have now been playing for several hours a day for about a week with small bets (one-off depositor of €50.00) and have always come out at around €50.00 after several hours in each session. When I wanted to end the thing and then increased the bets irregularly by 0.10c or 0.20c, the nasty eating phase came. Down to zero.

What was the question again? I can't remember exactly I'm just wondering whether it's better to start with high bets next time. It doesn't really matter, as it normally ends at zero again anyway. But if I land a somewhat bigger hit, then the payout would at least be worth it. With small bets, the payout is not worth it and I play on and on until the money is gone.

And yes, I only play for the fun of it, but it's even more fun with worthwhile wins...

How do you do it?

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Scatter777 wrote on 06.01.2025 at 09:24: Good morning everyone,

that's exactly what I meant. If I'm constantly messing around with 0.10 cents, then it's hardly possible to reach an amount I'm happy with. So I don't pay out, but keep on playing, hoping for the big hit. But the longer I play, the more mercilessly the house advantage drags me down to zero.

On the other hand, I don't see gambling with a small bet as a waste of time. It's still fun for me, because theoretically a big hit can come. With rising Joker, that would be €1000 with a 0.10 cent bet. Incidentally, I got into this "bonus round", which can be triggered at any time, 5 times last week. Once even immediately when opening the game. But then it was only 4 x €10 and once €40. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked out with the €250 or €1000 so far. It would have been more with higher bets. On the other hand, I might not have gotten into these rounds at all because I would have run out of money much sooner with higher bets.

I imagine it's a bit like flipping a coin. If I win, I get 0.90 cents, if the bank wins, it gets €1.00 from me. If I toss 10 times, there's a good chance that I'll come out with a good win. But if I throw 1 million times, then the probability of winning with a few outliers should be 50%. If both sides win about equally often, but one side always gets 10% more than the other side in a win, then it's clear that one side will end up completely empty and all the money will be on the other side. It's practically a redistribution system.

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Scatter777 wrote on 06.01.2025 at 09:24: Good morning everyone,

that's exactly what I meant. If I'm constantly messing around with 0.10 cents, then it's hardly possible to reach an amount I'm happy with. So I don't pay out, but keep on playing, hoping for the big hit. But the longer I play, the more mercilessly the house advantage drags me down to zero.

On the other hand, I don't see gambling with a small bet as a waste of time. It's still fun for me, because theoretically a big hit can come. With rising Joker, that would be €1000 with a 0.10 cent bet. Incidentally, I got into this "bonus round", which can be triggered at any time, 5 times last week. Once even immediately when opening the game. But then it was only 4 x €10 and once €40. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked out with the €250 or €1000 so far. It would have been more with higher bets. On the other hand, I might not have gotten into these rounds at all because I would have run out of money much sooner with higher bets.

I imagine it's a bit like flipping a coin. If I win, I get 0.90 cents, if the bank wins, it gets €1.00 from me. If I toss 10 times, there's a good chance that I'll come out with a good win. But if I throw 1 million times, then the probability of winning with a few outliers should be 50%. If both sides win about equally often, but one side always gets 10% more than the other side in a win, then it's clear that one side will end up completely empty and all the money will be on the other side. It's practically a redistribution system.

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Scatter777 wrote on 06.01.2025 at 10:46 am: Could be. Although Stromberg's negative expectation also makes sense. In the long run you will always lose and then I'd rather lose less than more. Unless Mr. RNG changes his mind and does something completely out of the ordinary for a while. Anything can always happen, or not. A vicious circle, as TV Kaiser would say.


If you put a moderately talented chimpanzee at the slot, wouldn't he actually achieve the same results as the most experienced player? Or maybe even better results?

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zocker0815 wrote on 06.01.2025 10:26:

yes that's a good one, winning 1000€ from a 10 cent bet, think that's a wish, believe me, I've been playing for so long and really a lot, you can see my winning pictures, but I've never managed a maxwin, of course more likely to get a maxwin on low bets than on high bets, but still the chance of achieving something like that is roughly comparable to a lotto million win - so pretty unlikely


although i think you have a better chance of getting my maxwin on bonus buys, because what i often see in the winning pictures in the forum, maxwins are mostly made with bonus buys

although I don't do that because I play with Bonuses 90% of the time anyway


what I can read from your posts is that you like to play long and with small bets, and hope for a maxwin on the side, but as I said you would win much more,

if you play in the 1€-2€ range because a 300x-600x hit is already quite a lot of money, and this happens more often than you think, only one thing i can promise you if you wait for a maxwin you will probably gamble away 5000€ on small bets before you win the 1000€, if you get it at all, as i said it is often written in the slots max.win chance e.g. 1 to 150mio

i.e. the probability of hitting the Jackpot like a lottery win or a scratch card

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zocker0815 wrote on January 06, 2025 at 11:58 am:

cool question, every average thinks to himself, yes the chimpanzee makes no difference to another player......



well what if i told you that i have made a very good plus since last year (2023) and even more plus in 2024 even though i play a lot?

would you believe me? probably not, i could of course prove this to you here with transactions from the respective casinos, but i don't necessarily want to show this to strangers and who knows who is reading along...

what i want to say is, i am where i am today because i have learned from the last 10 years, and no your beautiful metaffa no matter who you put behind the machine it comes out the same result is wrong....

there are many people here in the forum, if i would explain this now like what when who where, some specialists from the forum would come here and say yes you are just imagining that the machines run like this and like that and you were just lucky...


yes it's partly true, of course it's also luck, but if you take certain things into account you'll have more luck than others, including having a limit when playing slots, if it doesn't work try another time, don't force it, then i only play with a bonus Deposit, keep your feet still after big wins, play irregularly, the more often you play the less you win....

ect. ect....

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frapi07 wrote on 06.01.2025 at 12:33: If you want a Max. Win, then you can play the No Limits slots. Some have the "God Mode". But it costs a lot I think 500-1000x or so, depending.

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Scatter777 wrote on 07.01.2025 at 08:29: I read from an (alleged) casino insider with 30 years of experience that the best strategy in terms of bets is supposed to be like this:

Start with the smallest bet and spin five times. If nothing comes up, raise the bet to the next level and spin five times again. Continue until you get a win. Then return to the smallest bet and start all over again.

Sounds logical so far. The more often nothing comes up, the greater the probability of a hit. Two hits in a row or more are not so likely. So after the first hit, turn it back down.

The stupid thing is, the first hit doesn't have to be a good hit. If I turn it up and then get 0.20 cents, they are multiplied, but then it's just 0.80 cents or so. It's still far too little to make up for the loss on the way up.

And if everything is supposed to be random anyway and the RNG has no memory, then it doesn't matter anyway. What exactly is probability supposed to be? It's different from math. You can calculate math, but not probability. Although, there is probability. I'm confused

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