1. I myself work as I have already shared in a thread at Telekom. Now imagine, I make a mistake and someone points me out not once, not two or three times but 4,5 or 6 times and that even publicly.
Then these are not even colleagues but customers! ( in this case user of Gamblejoe ) So what do I do now?
If I do not want to harm the company then I take this criticism and improve myself in the future in this area because to ignore it now is the worst possible scenario for the company!
We will of course look at this and discuss with Christoph how he can improve in this direction or how we can improve in this point.
2. I understand that you can't accurately calculate a slot like Bonanza because the potential is endless. You can have infinite multipliers in the free spins and infinite freespins. In other words, there is no limit
With slots like Danger High Voltage or Queen of Riches the situation is different again
Example Danger High Voltage: The highest possible winning pictures are the skulls, namely 125x the bet with a row of 6
Now the slot has 4096 ways. That alone times 125x are already 512,000x bet win possibility with a full screens of the skulls. Now I am not even
not even at the freespins where you could get it x66!!!
I took a quick look at Danger High Voltage and a skulls payline would pay 25x the bet. Assuming the skulls are stacked or they are stacked 4x and it would be possible to get a complete reel of skulls. If you get this picture in the free spins and there is a x6 wild on reel 2 and a x66 wild on reel 5, then the Win factor would be 40,550,400x the bet. So more than 40 million times stake, which means that as a player with €1 stake you could theoretically win €40 million. I don't think this is possible (not even theoretically). As far as I know, Christoph has sent a request to Big Time Gaming in this regard. I hake there on Monday times after whether already an answer reingeflattert came.
Now I ask myself how one comes in Christoph 's article on 20,000x? too lazy times just to look at the paytable and 10 seconds to use the calculator?
Christoph didn't put in the slots and relied on the numbers that are in the system. I told my brother to use a lower win factor when in doubt. If a player gets the maximum win and it is higher than indicated, then it is a positive surprise. However, if a player gets the maximum win and it is significantly lower than indicated, then that would be very unsatisfactory or even very annoying.
I find it very unfortunate that here and also with the other BTG slots numbers have simply been pulled out of their noses and these are sold as fact.
For slots with such an unpredictable profit factor, it is only possible to give estimated values. But you are right, we should elaborate more on what this value means or how this value is arrived at. We should also point out that for some slots only estimated values can be given.
even you have a mistake in thinking about Book of Ra. The highest possible winning picture is not 5000x
It is exactly 7200x.
You get the free spins and as a symbol the explorer. Now 5 explorers run in on the center line. What about the other paylines?
You can also get 5 books in a row on the top row (1400x win) and 5 mummies on the last row (800x win)
I write it specially like this, because I already had free spins with the explorer once and had 4 on the middle line, 4 books on the top and 3 mummies on the bottom. That is still the win from one spin. We ganricht need to talk about when this picture times comes about but the article is about PROFIT POTENTIAL! and it is theoretically possible.
Such things can never be traced exactly. Sure it can happen that you get 5 explorers and then a full screens K in one spin. But if you were to include every probability in every slot, then you would either need more information from the manufacturer (i.e. he gives out the reel combinations) or you would really have to hire massive numbers of people to determine the win factor exactly. We already play many games, make screenshots, link the slots with the casinos and much more.
What you can do (and there you can involve the community) would be, as already said, a correction mask where people can submit suggestions for changes and justify these suggestions
3. I know that Christoph's articles are sometimes written very subjectively and yet these are sold as facts ( Public ) I understand the least. Why does one not write to the fact that these are subjective Meiungen of the article writer? Someone who is not familiar with the matter and seeks information on this site takes this for cash.
Can you give me an example where a subjective article is sold as fact? We will of course discuss this with Christoph. An example would be helpful.
4.But what I can't understand is that you don't include the users: It's clear that you can't set up work contracts and hire x users. But here's an example of what I mean:
Vivera also wrote an article on this site. Just for the fun of it. I and many others have often offered you free help which you do not accept. I understand the intention that you would like to reward people for their work and that is perfectly legetim. But why not involve users?
here is a perfect example: You want to write an article about slots and how to win. You write to user xy personally and ask for help. You can offer the user e.g. 50 Euro as Paysafe or something else. So you pay this person and the work is much more accurate, faster and the error rate is minimized. The whole thing could work on an email basis so that people still in the background participate in the thing and take you loads off.
We have already thought about this. Just after the article of Vivera. We even thought about hiring Vivera as an external copywriter and paying him for each article. The problem is that then the continuity is not given. Vivera and all of you probably have a permanent job and don't always have time or want to do something. I also think
The problem is (especially in this industry) the whims of people. This is not meant in a bad way, I have such moods myself. Today member XY is in a good mood, because things are going well and three days later, he wants to say goodbye forever and have nothing more to do with gambling. Today member xy thinks GambleJoe is great and then some little thing happens and then it's over again with the sympathy.
These things are completely legitimate. If someone doesn't want to gamble anymore, then it's best for his health if he completely distances himself from the matter.
Christoph could of course use the forum here more for his research work and start surveys here, for example. This would be again a point that one could implement well and therefore I thank you again for your criticism.
What I only on the death not abkann, is that if someone tries to evade from criticism or to silence this death, therefore this had times out. I myself make enough mistakes in life and at work. But if you do not point it out then I can I never change anything about it.
Well, I don't like that either, when someone ignores criticism. You have been a valuable member here on GambleJoe since day one and we take your criticism seriously. I can not exactly analyze and understand the "withdrawal of criticism" now (on Sunday evening) but I will look at it tomorrow together with Matthias and Christoph and we will then discuss together what we can do better in the future.
It would help us if you could post a few articles and briefly describe what you don't like about them.
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Daniel wrote on 17/12/2017 at 17:53:
First of all, I'd like to know how you manage to have a quote be green, have Normal reply in white below it, and have the next quote be green again. I am definitely too dumb to figure that out :'(
After that I like to answer. I like this way of answering. It makes everything more structured
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without wanting to offend anyone: we should open a that/that thread 😀
offtopic, but awesome how many people have problems with that, just like with "like/as"
as i said: just kidding from me 😇
on topic: find this way with quoting cool too, but wouldn't get it done either...Daniel is a pro!
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Avantgarde83 wrote on 17/12/2017 at 18:35: without wanting to offend anyone: we should start a that/that thread sometime 😀
offtopic, but sick how many people have problems with that, just like with "how/as"
That makes my phone or autocorrect unfortunately by itself. I know the rule with that/that
I just do not pay so much attention to my spelling on the net. But I'll try harder in the future
It's complicated to answer this way, but you don't have to be a genius. You copy the part you want to quote into the text field, highlight the part and click on the quote icon. Thats it
You can also click the quote icon first and then copy the text you want to quote into the green field. Works also
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Avantgarde83 wrote on 17/12/2017 at 18:35: without wanting to offend anyone: we should start a that/that thread sometime 😀
offtopic, but sick how many people have problems with that, just like with "how/as"
as i said: just kidding from me 😇
on topic: find this way with quoting cool too, but wouldn't get it done either...Daniel is a pro!
It's Sunday and still the teacher bursts out of you ?! This is highly questionable - you have to fight against it! Don't let this beast take full possession of you...... ... ðŸ¤"ðŸ¤"ðŸ¤"
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Hammerdammer wrote on 17.12.2017 at 18:48
Avantgarde83 wrote on 17/12/2017 at 18:35: without wanting to offend anyone: we should start a that/that thread sometime 😀
offtopic, but sick how many people have problems with that, just like with "how/as"
That makes my phone or autocorrect unfortunately by itself. I know the rule with that/that
I just do not pay so much attention to my spelling on the net. But I'll try harder in the future
was also not specifically related to you...you notice everywhere, not to mention my students. I also do not always pay attention to upper/lower case, because in the forum/chat it should often go fast.
But when I look at the spelling of the students, then I am sometimes afraid. Everything is getting more and more violent...German teachers are quite poor at it ðŸ˜
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We will of course look at this and discuss with Christoph how he can improve in this direction or how we can improve in this point.
I took a quick look at Danger High Voltage and a skulls payline would pay 25x the bet. Assuming the skulls are stacked or they are stacked 4x and it would be possible to get a complete reel of skulls. If you get this picture in the free spins and there is a x6 wild on reel 2 and a x66 wild on reel 5, then the Win factor would be 40,550,400x the bet. So more than 40 million times stake, which means that as a player with €1 stake you could theoretically win €40 million. I don't think this is possible (not even theoretically). As far as I know, Christoph has sent a request to Big Time Gaming in this regard. I hake there on Monday times after whether already an answer reingeflattert came.
Christoph didn't put in the slots and relied on the numbers that are in the system. I told my brother to use a lower win factor when in doubt. If a player gets the maximum win and it is higher than indicated, then it is a positive surprise. However, if a player gets the maximum win and it is significantly lower than indicated, then that would be very unsatisfactory or even very annoying.
For slots with such an unpredictable profit factor, it is only possible to give estimated values. But you are right, we should elaborate more on what this value means or how this value is arrived at. We should also point out that for some slots only estimated values can be given.
Such things can never be traced exactly. Sure it can happen that you get 5 explorers and then a full screens K in one spin. But if you were to include every probability in every slot, then you would either need more information from the manufacturer (i.e. he gives out the reel combinations) or you would really have to hire massive numbers of people to determine the win factor exactly. We already play many games, make screenshots, link the slots with the casinos and much more.
What you can do (and there you can involve the community) would be, as already said, a correction mask where people can submit suggestions for changes and justify these suggestions
Can you give me an example where a subjective article is sold as fact? We will of course discuss this with Christoph. An example would be helpful.
We have already thought about this. Just after the article of Vivera. We even thought about hiring Vivera as an external copywriter and paying him for each article. The problem is that then the continuity is not given. Vivera and all of you probably have a permanent job and don't always have time or want to do something. I also think
The problem is (especially in this industry) the whims of people. This is not meant in a bad way, I have such moods myself. Today member XY is in a good mood, because things are going well and three days later, he wants to say goodbye forever and have nothing more to do with gambling. Today member xy thinks GambleJoe is great and then some little thing happens and then it's over again with the sympathy.
These things are completely legitimate. If someone doesn't want to gamble anymore, then it's best for his health if he completely distances himself from the matter.
Christoph could of course use the forum here more for his research work and start surveys here, for example. This would be again a point that one could implement well and therefore I thank you again for your criticism.
Well, I don't like that either, when someone ignores criticism. You have been a valuable member here on GambleJoe since day one and we take your criticism seriously. I can not exactly analyze and understand the "withdrawal of criticism" now (on Sunday evening) but I will look at it tomorrow together with Matthias and Christoph and we will then discuss together what we can do better in the future.
It would help us if you could post a few articles and briefly describe what you don't like about them.
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First of all, I'd like to know how you manage to have a quote be green, have Normal reply in white below it, and have the next quote be green again. I am definitely too dumb to figure that out :'(
After that I like to answer. I like this way of answering. It makes everything more structured
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offtopic, but awesome how many people have problems with that, just like with "like/as"
as i said: just kidding from me 😇
on topic: find this way with quoting cool too, but wouldn't get it done either...Daniel is a pro!
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That makes my phone or autocorrect unfortunately by itself. I know the rule with that/that
I just do not pay so much attention to my spelling on the net. But I'll try harder in the future
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You can also click the quote icon first and then copy the text you want to quote into the green field. Works also
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It's Sunday and still the teacher bursts out of you ?! This is highly questionable - you have to fight against it! Don't let this beast take full possession of you...... ... ðŸ¤"ðŸ¤"ðŸ¤"
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was also not specifically related to you...you notice everywhere, not to mention my students. I also do not always pay attention to upper/lower case, because in the forum/chat it should often go fast.
But when I look at the spelling of the students, then I am sometimes afraid. Everything is getting more and more violent...German teachers are quite poor at it ðŸ˜
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ðŸ˜'ðŸ˜' WerLehrer, awesome.
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