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News & Notices: Payment of Citizen's Income account (Page 5)

Topic created on 28th Mar. 2025 | Page: 5 of 5 | Answers: 69 | Views: 2,596
frapi07
Elite

RedKaos wrote on March 31st, 2025 at 10:03 pm:

Well what does accepted mean, many people drink alcohol occasionally and that is certainly better received if you. Say I drink 2-3 times a month than if I say I go to the casino 2-3 times a month. But with people who stand in front of supermarkets every day, as in the example, people's opinions are unlikely to be positive. Just speaking for my small town, customers complain about the drinkers standing outside the store every day.

Yes, that's exactly what I don't understand. Citizen's allowance recipients shouldn't do either of these things, but gambling is extremely condemned and people complain that they are gambling away money that comes from taxes and that they have received for doing nothing. People don't complain so much about the others.

What's better about getting drunk 2-3 times than going to the Spielo 2-3 times? For me, it's just as bad.

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Falko
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RedKaos wrote on March 31st, 2025 at 10:03 pm:

Well what does accepted mean, many people drink alcohol occasionally and that is certainly better received if you. Say I drink 2-3 times a month than if I say I go to the casino 2-3 times a month. But with people who stand in front of supermarkets every day, as in the example, people's opinions are unlikely to be positive. Just speaking for my small town, customers complain about the drinkers standing outside the store every day.

I used to go to a discount store where I often bought groceries, but then I never shopped there again. It was the discount store's fault because it tolerated a group of drunken youths at its front door every day. I can't get over something like that. So I always went shopping somewhere else. There are enough grocery stores in my area that are within walking distance. Constantly meeting a horde of drunks at the entrance and then perhaps being chatted up by them at some point - no thanks

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Falko
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frapi07 wrote on 31.03.2025 at 22:17:What's better about getting drunk 2-3 times than going to the Spielo 2-3 times? For me it's equally bad.

I'd definitely rather the recipients of the citizen's allowance gamble in a gambling house than when they're loitering outside somewhere totally drunk or lying around on the streets totally drugged up

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Olli_Eule
Legend
Why can't a citizen's allowance recipient look forward to a win?
Everyone should be able to win something. And they should be allowed to keep it. But I think it should only be up to a certain amount.

I don't see that as income but as a lucky coincidence. I wouldn't begrudge any recipient of Citizen's Income if they were lucky enough to win 500 euros a year through simple luck.
Then it would be a bit mean if it was all taken away. But if it's over 500 euros, it's already too much and a portion should be deducted.

The point is that everyone should be allowed to enjoy life. Everyone is entitled to happiness and joy as long as it is not excessive.

You can't take away people's lives or dictate what they are not allowed to do. It's already bad enough for many people who receive citizen's allowance.

Soon, collecting pledges will be counted as income.

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Comingsoon19
Experienced

Falko wrote on March 31st, 2025 at 10:23 pm:

It was the same with me at the time, I often bought groceries at a discount store where I used to shop, then never shopped there again. It was the discount store's fault because it tolerated a group of drunken youths at its entrance every day. I can't get over something like that. So I always went shopping somewhere else. There are enough grocery stores in my area that are within walking distance. Constantly meeting a horde of drunks at the entrance and then perhaps being chatted up by them at some point - no thanks

Unfortunately, this is part of everyday life in Berlin.

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frapi07
Elite

Olli_Eule wrote on 01.04.2025 at 00:40: Why can't a citizen's allowance recipient look forward to a win.
Everyone should be able to win something. And they should be allowed to keep it. But I think only up to a certain amount.

I don't see that as income but as a lucky coincidence. I wouldn't begrudge any citizen's allowance recipient the chance to win 500 euros a year through simple luck.
Then it would be a bit mean if it was all taken away. But if it's over 500 euros, it's already too much and a portion should be deducted.

The point is that everyone should be allowed to enjoy life. Everyone is entitled to happiness and joy as long as it is not excessive.

You can't take away people's lives or dictate what they are not allowed to do. It's already bad enough for many people who receive citizen's allowance.

Soon, collecting pledges will be counted as income.

Because that's what the state has decided. Laws and all that, quite normal^^

By the way, there was already a case about this Ruling: Collecting bottles is not counted towards Hartz IV - WELT Important: these must be too small to be counted. If you earn several hundred euros a month, you may run into difficulties.

Falko wrote on 31.03.2025 at 22:26:

I'd definitely rather the recipients of the citizen's allowance gamble in a Spielo than when they're out loitering somewhere drunk or lying around on the streets all drugged up

I hear you. It makes you feel less annoyed. For me, it's equally bad if a person uses it to finance their gambling or other addictions. Nevertheless, we live here in Germany and everyone is allowed to make their own decisions about their income (no matter what).

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Touchy123
Rookie
There are hardly any returnable bottles left.

You can tell that more and more people don't have as much money as they did years ago.

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MisterL
Expert
They eating cats and dogs

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Olli_Eule
Legend

Touchy123 wrote on 01.04.2025 at 15:18: You can hardly find any returnable bottles.

You can tell that more and more people no longer have the money as loose as they did years ago.

not here in our town of about 15,000 inhabitants, everything is full of energy drink cans. I recently found 3 at the train station and one on a hedge by the bus stop. It's getting more here.

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gagapapamama
Elite

Olli_Eule wrote on 01.04.2025 at 17:09:

here not with us place c.a 15 000 inhabitants, everything full of energy drink cans. Recently found 3 at the train station and one on a hedge at the bus stop. There are more here.

When I take the dog for a walk, which is several kilometers, I always find cans and bottles like that. I always take them with me and throw them in a big bag and when it's full my wives give it to me and it's usually between €20 and €30.

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