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News & Notices: New function: visible Likes in the forum

Topic created on 24th Jun. 2022 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 23 | Views: 4,385
Matthias
Expert
Dear Community,

we deliberately integrated the new visible likes feature yesterday.
At the moment, there are a lot of posts in the forum from users with the purpose of causing trouble. We are monitoring the situation closely and have noticed that it is easier for people who want to incite against the community to support Hatespeech bullying if you can anonymously like posts.
This gives the posts more emphasis and may make other users feel they are in the wrong, even though it may only be a group of people who have agreed to share likes.

Due to the newly introduced transparency, the visible Likes, it can (as already mentioned above) be assessed more quickly whether Likes are used to taunt other users or who supports mutual incitement.

We will also integrate the visible likes in the winning pictures.

However, we have deliberately not introduced visible likes in the no-deposit area.
Because there is the danger that people are mobbed for it, or are stamped as No-Deposit-Hunter, as soon as they rate a bonus positively. Therefore, once again: in the no-deposit area there are no visible likes to protect anonymity. We have also made this decision with regard to the future in the entire team.

Best regards from the island
Matthias

Edit from Matthias: unfavorable wording about mobbing in the forum corrected in the text

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slotliebe89
Elite
Matthias wrote on 24.06.2022 at 11:23: Dear Community,

we deliberately integrated the new visible likes feature yesterday.
Currently, posts from users are piling up in the forum, with the purpose of causing trouble. We are monitoring the situation closely and we have noticed that it is easier for people who want to incite against the community to support Hatespeech when you can anonymously like posts.
This gives the posts more weight and may make other users feel like they are in the wrong, even though it may only be a group of people who have agreed to share likes.

Due to the newly introduced transparency, the visible Likes, it can (as already mentioned above) be assessed more quickly whether Likes are used to taunt other users or who supports mutual incitement.

And taking out the Like function altogether is not an option? Haven't seen any added value in it yet.

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Julian
Elite
slotliebe wrote on 06/24/2022 at 11:35 AM
And taking out the Like function altogether is not an option? Haven't seen any added value in it yet.

The added value is to indicate if a post was helpful or not.

Especially in the General No Deposit thread, for example, it has the added value of letting members see if an offer had worked, and instead of someone writing "Thanks worked" for every offer, there is the function of just giving a thumbs up.
This should actually have a positive impact on the overall content in the threads, as this should at least preserve the overview.

Likewise, it has a positive influence on many other topics, especially with regard to criticism or discussions around all topics.

Also with improvement suggestions around GambleJoe this is really very helpful, and is simply needed so that we can know what is ultimately important for the community.

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Dutch78
Expert
Matthias wrote on 24.06.2022 at 11:23 Best regards from the island Matthias

We are also on an island for lunch today, since this is so rare, I can now also greet you back from an island.

She has only ca.2000 inhabitants and three restaurants, but each of them is better than the one on Malta and "you" have after all 525000 islanders

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Marqes
Expert
Honestly:

This was my idea that I had already suggested to you two years ago.
It's good that you have finally adopted it.
What took so long?
And what do I actually get for the fact that my idea has now been put into practice?☺

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Falke
Expert
Quote from Matthias in the closed thread

" We're monitoring the situation closely, and in doing so we've found that it's easier for people who want to incite against the community to support Hatespeech when you can anonymously like posts."

Please stop hitting the same notch as all the censorship raging politicians and media. Every criticism, every little frustration discharge is immediately called Hatespeech. This is a really stupid new George Orwell word creation. In the past, this was called animated discussions, from which mainly Gamblejoe himself profits because of clicks. And if someone really overdoes it, then you have always had moderators who take care of it and who can also block a user in case of emergency

And all this apparently does not apply. So where is your "Hatespeech"? Where do you draw the line between freedom of speech and censorship? Until now, this border was already clearly defined, so what exactly are you observing now? When someone writes something stupid and then at least two or three people react negatively to it?

Nobody here in the Gamblejoe forum has to write anything here. You benefit from the users and not the other way around. Then to accuse other people of Hatespeech because they have a different opinion and this may not always pack in cotton candy, is just so out of line

And as Matthias also said in the other thread, he seriously assumes that several people are talking together here to agitate against the community. Who make joint agreements to get one over on Gamblejoe. This is called a classic conspiracy theory. If there were these users then they would have been banned long ago

So yes, absolutely wayne whether you see who has who gelikted. But don't interpret so much into it and don't act as if Gamblejoe would be attacked from the outside and would be under enemy fire, just because you don't like the directness of some users

But by your logic, that post was also Hatespeech now, wasn't it?

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Matthias
Expert
Hello Falke,
actually, I have to admit that the phrase "Hatespeech" or "Hate Speech" was not aptly chosen in this context / in the opening post. For clarification, "Hate Speech" by definition refers to a linguistic attack on characteristics such as skin color, origin, sexuality, gender, age, disability or religion of people. (Source: The linguistic attacks can target characteristics such as people's skin color, origin, sexuality, gender, age, disability, or religion. https://www.amadeu-antonio-stiftung.de/digitale-zivilgesellschaft/was-ist-hate-speech/)

I have adjusted my post, I meant the issue of "bullying" or indirectly teasing, pestering, provoking some double accounts against community members who like to participate actively on our platform.
Often these posts appear from users who have already had countless accounts with us, but just can't get away from the platform, or for example can't cope with the fact that we (because of their behavior) have announced a user ban on our platform.
These users, who are always re-registering, are self-liking their posts with their duplicate accounts and this has a negative impact on the community.
We delete these accounts and corresponding posts if necessary, but the transparency of the new Like function creates a clearer environment for everyone to recognize corresponding accounts, or conscious "Stänker-Liken".

The introduction of the new function has nothing to do with censorship, since no one is restricted to represent his opinion in the forum.
Since GambleJoe's inception, no user has been banned for their opinion - The exceptions are clear: if the users violated our community guidelines and direct insults were included in the posts.

Edit by Sabine: broken link has been removed

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Matthias
Expert

Marqes wrote on 06/24/2022 at 5:08 PM: Honestly:

This was my idea that I suggested to you guys two years ago.
Good that you guys have finally adopted it.
What took so long?
And what do I actually get for the fact that my idea has now been put into practice?☺

Do you possibly still know when, how and to whom you communicated this idea?

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o****I
That doesn't sound at all comprehensible to me either. I think there's something else behind it.
The only thing I can see now, in retrospect, are the rope teams that liken each other, but nothing more
liken, but more also not. So a Mehrwehrt is certainly not.

It's not about the quality of the forum posts, but simply to diss someone,
or to push, but the whole without sense.
Only the least do it honestly here

And stichelt and incited is via PN, there are also the "Likes" awarded.
But GJ also knows that for sure.

And incite people or be against GJ? Likes are supposed to be an indication for that?
So please......

Also Christian often does not respond to follow ups of his articles. Even if he has 10 likes
that says nothing about the quality of the articles.

Mobbing, stalking, double account?
Class, what so Likes everything say

And just to be clear. I have no fear for Likes for or against me. Only that one now
the name sees, made s no difference to before!
It's just completely pointless in my opinion.

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Marqes
Expert
Matthias wrote on 24.06.2022 at 19:05

Do you possibly remember when, how and to whom you communicated this idea?

Sure I remember 😁
Ok, I had to look it up.
The communicator never forgets.😁

I told the boss the idea.
At 09.10.2019 - 03:03 Uhr


Daniel believe me you have to make it so that as a user you can see who is posting 09.10.2019 - 03:03 am


Usw. Geliked has...that is a completely new and cool feature and that will make that the side in unimagined heights rises lets...the option would be mega cool, look nevertheless times, everyone will try then to write decently and well, because he wants to have likes and/or Sehen willl who liked him, because from it vll. friendships etc. arise.09.10.2019 - 03:05

Simply that it vll. For the one under the post is displayed small u for others also, who, the contribution has liked etc.09.10.2019 - 03:07 Uhr

And everyone is iwie addicted to likes, be it in youtube, facebook etc.09.10.2019 - 03:06 Uhr

Believe me digga, will hit like anything else the idea09.10.2019 -


Hi, thanks for the suggestion. I will bring this to the team meeting on Monday and put it on the to-do if necessary. Also have to see if we need anything special in terms of data protection again 10.10.2019 - 18:47 Uhr

Can also send you screenshots or you ask Daniel that he looks in his Communicator.

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