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News & Notices: Important note: Lending money between forum members (Page 2)

Topic created on 25th Mar. 2018 | Page: 2 of 5 | Answers: 49 | Views: 17,874
P****1

Important note: Lending money between forum members

25th Mar. 2018, at 11:01 pm CEST#11
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Aka wrote on 25.03.2018 at 22:59: Currently I see the thing a bit more critical Daniel! I would be for this here publicly to ban - so already the open demand for it. If then 2 mean that over PN to regulate it oh with PN should remain - to each status. Point.

There I would be also for. Such a thing does not belong in public. No matter who has done what but started privately should also end privately.

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R****r

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25th Mar. 2018, at 11:04 pm CEST#12
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So I think that is also now very private. To disclose finances and or to mention what someone does with his money should not be carried out in a forum. I would wish such sensitive topics not to discuss openly.

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Andrew789
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25th Mar. 2018, at 11:12 pm CEST#13
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So I have in the Spielo times people after a big win voluntarily given a few euros (6 to 20 euros or so). But once because the guy came across quite nice and always played so on 5 cents and then I said he should try something higher with the money. And once because there were so many strange guys that I thought they could attack me on the way home But were actually all quite correct to me. But many years ago one of them came and heard that I had a Big-Win. Then he told me to change the game and raise the stakes. Since he seemed a bit threatening and I probably would have continued to gamble a bit anyway, I just did it. It came also actually a smaller win. He said that's because he would know the machines so well and so Then he suddenly said "Bon Chance" or so. And I always just "WHAT? He wanted to have money for the good "tip". Then I think I gave him 8 euros, because I would not have made the win, so to speak, without the guy (although it would also have come if I had continued to play so) and wanted to get rid of it. So in the Spielo there are already funny guys... That is really a disadvantage compared to the online casino.

But I have also lent a forum member some money from time to time or given away a Paysafe card. But these are all amounts of 10-25 euros or so. And this person always gives me everything back or lends / gives me then also times what. So I have good experiences there. However, I would not lend amounts like 100 euros or more. If I have a real big win and like someone, then I prefer to give the person something. Whether it's a Paysafe card to a buddy or a purchased gift in the private sphere.

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S****n

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25th Mar. 2018, at 11:13 pm CEST#14
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It's hard these days for someone who has really messed up financially to get back on their feet.

Many gamblers make mistakes. In fact, they make many and serious mistakes in life. Living on credit, not paying off their loans or debts, borrowing money from friends and family to then gamble it away.
The fatal thing is, however, if you then really have nothing more, no job, no apartment, no possessions or money more and you can no longer fall deeper, you realize THEN that it can not go on like this and must change his life drastically.

Only then one gets no more help. The bank does not give you a loan for a new start because of your bad credit rating, friends and family do not lend you anything anymore and without work no apartment, without apartment no work etc.. One knows in this country I think times very well.

Of course, there is state help or facilities. But let's be honest, until you have fought your way through this mountain of applications and forms, you have either starved or thrown yourself off the next bridge.
We had a case of a 20 year old gambler who was a frequent visitor to our gambling house. That evening, however, he was sitting sadly and bitterly in front of a machine and did not play. A gambler approached him at that time and asked what was going on. He said he had been thrown out of his home, had no money for food and didn't know where to sleep. He went to all the authorities, employment office, social welfare office, Caritas etc. and was always turned away and sent somewhere else. I don't know the whole story but finally he had a fatal car accident and I personally guess that it was not an accident but intentional. Under welfare state I actually imagine something else than to drive young people to suicide.

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tontoo2
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26th Mar. 2018, at 12:04 am CEST#15
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These normal Spielos with the standard visitors, I don't like for at least ten years. Basically, since many average citizens have found their way to the boxes.
If I ever, rarely, want to go to a gambling house, then only to Frankfurt in the station/red light district.
There hang then the whole whores, Sonderlinge, etc. at the automats. The atmosphere is a bit bizarre, but pleasant. You also get into interesting conversations, the last time with an old Greek guest worker, who regularly carried his entire life's work in small chunks into the Spielos.
What I want to say is, in any case, in such an environment, no one gets the idea to take others for fools, and to ask for money, in whatever way. It's a rough environment, with clear unwritten rules. And the atmosphere is good.
When I occasionally look at those Youtube guys who fade in next to a slot as they put on their stupid show, well, I'm glad I never see clowns like that in a real gambling establishment. From Youtube it has "lost" me to this forum, because Daniel there almost the only one has not produced douche videos.

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S****n

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26th Mar. 2018, at 12:08 am CEST#16
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tontoo2 wrote on 26/03/2018 at 00:04
What I want to say, in any case, in such an environment no one gets the idea to take others for fools, and to ask for money, in any way. It's a rough environment, with clear unwritten rules. And the atmosphere is good.

I'd be interested to know what those unwritten rules are. It would be nice if you could elaborate a bit.

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tontoo2
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26th Mar. 2018, at 12:16 am CEST#17
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It is quite simple. In such an environment, no one gets too close to anyone unpleasantly, because every unpleasant action is guaranteed to have unpleasant consequences.

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Anonym

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26th Mar. 2018, at 08:15 am CEST#18
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The 2nd time I was in a casino at the Blackjack table I played at a full table. Most of the people at the table played with stakes of 10-30€, only one highroller was sitting there, who played every round with the table maximum.
In one round I had overbought and "saved" the whole table. The High Roller flicked me a chip with my lost bet as a "thank you".
That was the only time I accepted something like that, but it was more of a "Da haste" than a "Nur geliehen"

After my money worrying head here the other day, a few users offered me via PN uA to help me out a little, be it with some money or paysafe cards. I found these offers very touching, even if I would never accept them. Simply because I think that one does not make that...is I believe simply education thing. It was beaten into me that you don't spend other people's money. But just the willingness to help a stranger with a small amount I found really very very sweet.

Sad that you had to make so many negative experiences in this respect Daniel. I can't understand something like that, I would be ashamed of myself and would do everything in my power to pay off my debts. Really sad.

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gagapapamama
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26th Mar. 2018, at 10:06 am CEST#19
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I think every gambler has made this experience before, lent money and never seen it again. What I personally find worse is that you put a years-long friendship at Risk, without thinking about the main thing you have the money that is gambled away in a few hours.
Since I am professionally much in gambling houses I could write a book about the fates of some people, I have experienced everything, dramas of wives because the husband has gambled away the whole salary in one day etc.. another had sunk his salary and the Christmas money within 3 days to 4 boxes and as a parting gift he has all 4 boxes totally beaten up and the worst thing I had experienced was a homicide on the wife, this man had a well-run freight forwarding business but was every day from morning to night in the Spilo his wife came then often screaming in the Spilo to take home what he has not done but. One day they then had such a violent marital quarrel that he kicked her in the stomach and left her lying in the bedroom, but she had just had an operation in the stomach and this wound burst open internally and she died of it. This has brought the man 9 years. I could tell still much more also like one 230 000,00 DM in 2 years can play away that goes also ratzefatz.

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Andrew789
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26th Mar. 2018, at 10:12 am CEST#20
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When you hear all this... it's really awesome. It's a really bad addiction. I also had money problems from time to time, but always something to eat and so on. Never huge mountains of debt. The only thing that often happens to me is that I use up the overdraft facility, but that's enough for me you have to balance it out again at some point and pay interest...

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