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News & Notices: Important news about the GJ Coin lottery

Topic created on 11th Feb. 2025 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 13 | Views: 312
Matthias
Expert
Dear Community,
it's a little difficult for me to write this post, as you know that we always like to give something back to the community.
First of all: For 7 years now, we have been holding a lottery on GambleJoe on the first of each month for the most active members. Over the years, we have distributed well over 150,000 euros to the community with our GJ Coin lottery (back then still a Paysafecard lottery).
Don't worry, it's not over - but we have to make adjustments in order to continue working profitably.
That's why we have to inform you today that we have decided to "only" give away or lottery €1,000 per month to the community from now on.
It's up to you to decide how the prizes will be distributed.
I have started a survey here and the result will decide what the lottery will look like on March 1.
The reason for this adjustment is that we have unfortunately noticed in recent months that fewer and fewer members are registering with the various providers via our orange buttons (affiliate links) and our income has fallen accordingly.
We finance the server costs, the promotions and also our salaries exclusively through the one-off commissions that we receive for new registrations with the individual gambling providers.
If no one registers, our income is zero.
Nevertheless, I would like to tell you that we are not giving up - we hope that the cost-cutting measures are only temporary and that the business figures will soon improve again - also thanks to your activity and help - we are counting on you! 😊
With this in mind, all the best
Matthias



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R3hab
Elite
I don't think anyone will hold that against you

But why don't you create more incentives for people to register, e.g. a few coins after a successful depositor or merchandising vouchers after a Deposit?

Hope you get through this and that it recovers again

Otherwise I wouldn't have a problem if you included advertising somewhere
At least we can support you with clicks
Adsense is also not without, that can also bring something good

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Stromberg
Legend

Matthias wrote on February 11, 2025 at 10:33 am: Dear community,
i find it a little difficult to write this post, as you know that we always like to give something back to the community.
First of all: For 7 years now, we have been holding a lottery on GambleJoe on the first of each month for the most active members. Over the years, we have distributed well over 150,000 euros to the community with our GJ Coin lottery (back then still a Paysafecard lottery).
Don't worry, it's not over - but we have to make adjustments in order to continue working profitably.
That's why we have to inform you today that we have decided to "only" give away or lottery €1,000 per month to the community from now on.
It's up to you to decide how the prize distribution should be made up.
I have started a survey here and the result will decide what the lottery will look like on March 1.
The reason for this adjustment is that we have unfortunately noticed in recent months that fewer and fewer members are registering with the various providers via our orange buttons (affiliate links) and our income has fallen accordingly.
We finance the server costs, the promotions and also our salaries exclusively through the one-off commissions that we receive for new registrations with the individual gambling providers.
If no one registers, our income is zero.
Nevertheless, I would like to tell you that we are not giving up - we hope that the cost-cutting measures are only temporary and that the business figures will soon improve again - also thanks to your activity and help - we are counting on you! 😊
With this in mind, all the best
Matthias




It's still a good action👍


Quick question, do you get the commissions just for signing up, or signing up plus depositing?
Just out of interest.

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Butterbrezel
Elite
The fact that you are continuing the coin lottery (for now), albeit at a reduced level, is a positive surprise. But of course we are happy to accept that. Working economically is the basis, and I don't think any of the regular users would be "angry" if the coin lottery were to be discontinued.

I suspect that many regular users are already registered with all / most providers or are just cutting back on gambling. The income that used to be generated by hundreds of other casinos is simply missing.

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BinGOLDiG
Expert
Yes, the German license is certainly to blame! That's why we don't even see the new casinos that are outside of Germany!

For example, in the no Deposit area I always let myself be redirected to the corresponding casino by the link, because I thought that would also give you commission!

I honestly don't know which orange links we can use to support you!
Maybe we can also support you in other ways if you tell us how!
Maybe through VPN so we can see the other casinos too?

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Matthias
Expert
R3hab wrote on 11.02.2025 at 12:35: I don't think anyone will hold that against you

But why don't you create more incentives for people to register, e.g. a few coins after a successful depositor or merchandising vouchers after a Deposit?

Creating incentives for registration and depositors is unfortunately and understandably prohibited by the partner programs. The reason for this is that if we say, for example, "Register at Casino XY and deposit 20 euros, we'll give you 10 euros as a gift", this will result in many new registrations at the casinos, but the players will not actively play in the long term.
If the casino then pays us a one-off commission that is higher than the player's deposit, the casino makes a loss.
Some affiliates try such ways to earn more money in the short term, but this usually doesn't work for long.
In the end, the casino checks the affiliate's figures every month and sees exactly how much money was paid out to the Affiliate and how much the players deposited or how much profit was made. After all, there are also players who win and player profits are casino losses. In the end, the casino's marketing expenditure (the affiliate commissions paid) must be justified by corresponding player activity and company profits.
Affiliates who bring in "bad players" (players who consistently deposit too little) and still try to collect commissions are usually caught after the first month and kicked out of the affiliate programs.

Stromberg wrote on February 11th, 2025 at 12:41 pm:

It's still a good promotion after all👍


Quick question, do you get the commissions just for signing up, or registration plus depositor?
Just out of interest.

In fact, in 95% of cases, you only receive a commission if a player registers and then deposits at least 20 euros and "wagers" this money, i.e. uses it to play.
If you assume that the usual commission (on the German market) is only around 50 euros per new customer, it is relatively easy to calculate with the necessary basic knowledge that this is no longer a lucrative business in the long term.
Even if 100 new customers register with a Provider in a month (which would be a lot), that doesn't mean that it's a lucrative business:
100x 50 euros commission = 5000 euros, but of the 100 new customers, perhaps 10% actually pay in 20 euros. The other 90% deposit nothing, or try the casino with a PSC of 10 and do not continue to use the player account. Customers who do not deposit are almost worthless for the casinos, as many of them are left in the system as deadbeats, never come back and often have not even given their consent to marketing newsletters and then end up negatively distorting the casino's business figures.
As an affiliate, you only receive 10x 50 euros in the above example, i.e. 500 euros credit for 100 new registrations per month per provider, and the options for paying servers, salaries and marketing measures are quite limited.

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Matthias
Expert

BinGOLDiG wrote on 11.02.2025 at 13:12: Yes, the German license is certainly to blame!

I honestly don't know which orange links we can use to support you!
Maybe we can also support you in other ways if you tell us how!
Maybe through VPN so that we can also see the other casinos?

In fact, the reason is really only the German license and the associated drop in income for the providers.
The commissions for the Affiliate partners have to be reduced and theoretically we still earn over 50% less than before with the same number of new customers. In addition, the number of registrations has also fallen in general.
The orange links I'm referring to are the orange buttons "to the casino" or "to the casino" - if you click on them, you're redirected to the Provider and if you sign up and play there, you've helped us.
But that's not to say that you should now sign up everywhere and gamble away your belongings . For God's sake, no - just remember - if you're testing a new casino, it's best to click on the orange "Go to casino" button and then register directly so that it's clear to the casino - we've recruited you as a new customer.


All in all, I think it's great how understanding you've reacted to the adjustment so far - thank you!

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RebellYell
Top Member

Matthias wrote on 11.02.2025 at 13:20:
In fact, in 95% of cases, you only receive a commission if a player registers and then also deposits at least 20 euros and "wagers" this money, i.e. uses it to play.
If you assume that the usual commission (on the German market) is only around 50 euros per new customer, it is relatively easy to calculate with the necessary basic knowledge that this is no longer a lucrative business in the long term.
Even if 100 new customers register with a Provider in a month (which would be a lot), that doesn't mean anything:
100x 50 euros commission = 5000 euros, but of the 100 new customers, perhaps 10% actually pay in 20 euros. The other 90% Deposit nothing, or try the casino with a PSC of 10 and do not continue to use the player account. Customers who do not deposit are almost worthless for the casinos, as many of them are left in the system as deadbeats, never come back and often have not even given their consent to marketing newsletters and then end up negatively distorting the casino's business figures.
As an Affiliate, you only get 10x 50 euros in the above example, i.e. 500 euros credit for 100 new registrations per month per provider, and the options for paying servers, salaries and marketing measures are quite limited.

To be honest, I always thought that you would get commission even if people just signed up via your link. Another lesson learned....

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ruhrpott
Expert
Of course, it's not a problem at all that you reduce the monthly prize draw amount. On the contrary: the fact that you're continuing this despite everything clearly speaks for you. And in general anyway: many users here, including myself, have already benefited so much from your generosity that anything other than understanding would be completely stupid.
But as far as the problem itself is concerned, are there any game libraries expected to be listed here in the near future so that people can register there via you? Because at the moment, at least for me, I already have an account with everything that is listed here and there is no other way (at least that I know of) to help you in the short term.

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R3hab
Elite

Matthias wrote on 11.02.2025 at 13:20:
In fact, in 95% of cases, you only receive a commission if a player registers and then also deposits at least 20 euros and "wagers" this money, i.e. uses it to play.
If you assume that the usual commission (on the German market) is only around 50 euros per new customer, it is relatively easy to calculate with the necessary basic knowledge that this is no longer a lucrative business in the long term.
Even if 100 new customers register with a Provider in a month (which would be a lot), that doesn't mean that it's a lucrative business:
100x 50 euros commission = 5000 euros, but of the 100 new customers, perhaps 10% actually pay in 20 euros. The other 90% Deposit nothing, or try the casino with a PSC of 10 and do not continue to use the player account. Customers who do not deposit are almost worthless for the casinos, as many of them are left in the system as deadbeats, never come back and often have not even given their consent to marketing newsletters and then end up negatively distorting the casino's business figures.
As an Affiliate, you only receive 10x 50 euros in the above example, i.e. 500 euros credit for 100 new registrations per month per provider, and the options for paying servers, salaries and marketing measures are quite limited.

Understand

But you should discuss this with adsense
For example, you could integrate them well into the articles
That might take some of the pressure off
I know you don't want to do that but who would be a pity if gj no longer exists

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frapi07
Elite
Matthias wrote on February 11th, 2025 at 1:26 pm:

Overall, though, I think it's great how understanding you've been about the adjustment so far - thank you!

Why shouldn't you be understanding? You are certainly not benefactors and want to make money with this platform. In addition, I personally see it that many are certainly happy about 20€ as 0€. This is still one of the few places where you get so much in return and therefore cannot be taken for granted.

Matthias wrote on February 11th, 2025 at 1:26 pm:

Actually, the cause is really entirely due to the German license and the associated drop in revenue for the providers.
The commissions for the Affiliate partners have to be cut and theoretically we still earn over 50% less than before with the same number of new customers. In addition, the number of registrations has also fallen in general.
The orange links I'm referring to are the orange buttons "to the casino" or "to the casino" - if you click on them, you're redirected to the Provider and if you sign up and play there, you've helped us.
But that's not to say that you should now sign up everywhere and gamble away your belongings . For God's sake, no - just remember - if you're testing a new casino, it's best to click on the orange "Go to casino" button and then sign up directly so that it's clear to the casino - we've recruited you as a new customer.


Overall, though, I think it's great how understanding you've been about the adjustment so far - thank you!

I think that although it's the biggest factor, it's not the only one that has caused you to take in less. 2022 and 2023 have also worked out well (maybe not as in prime times, but I guess still acceptable, otherwise this step wouldn't have come in 2025). Many people are simply cutting back on gaming because inflation can be felt everywhere. The first thing people do without or cut back on are such expensive "hobbies". Others, on the other hand, are certainly playing somewhere else, where they benefit zero from it. In addition, some users have already mentioned another problem: Users who are already registered can hardly register anywhere else. I mean, it feels like 2-3 new casinos are added every year, that's it. It's not just the new registrations that are the problem, but also the number of providers. I know that you can't list all providers here because there has to be a cooperation.

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zocker0815
Top Member

Matthias wrote on February 11, 2025 at 10:33 am: Dear community,
i find it a little difficult to write this post, as you know that we always like to give something back to the community.
First of all: For 7 years now, we have been holding a lottery on GambleJoe on the first of each month for the most active members. Over the years, we have distributed well over 150,000 euros to the community with our GJ Coin lottery (back then still a Paysafecard lottery).
Don't worry, it's not over - but we have to make adjustments in order to continue working profitably.
That's why we have to inform you today that we have decided to "only" give away or lottery €1,000 per month to the community from now on.
It's up to you to decide how the prize distribution should be made up.
I have started a survey here and the result will decide what the lottery will look like on March 1.
The reason for this adjustment is that we have unfortunately noticed in recent months that fewer and fewer members are registering with the various providers via our orange buttons (affiliate links) and our income has fallen accordingly.
We finance the server costs, the promotions and also our salaries exclusively through the one-off commissions that we receive for new registrations with the individual gambling providers.
If no one registers, our income is zero.
Nevertheless, I would like to tell you that we are not giving up - we hope that the cost-cutting measures are only temporary and that the business figures will soon improve again - also thanks to your activity and help - we are counting on you! 😊
With this in mind, all the best
Matthias




yes, it's a shame, but it's understandable


but it's not the players' fault but that you only offer german websites, it's logical if you read here in the forum how it works in these casinos that nobody wants to play there anymore, they have achieved exactly what they wanted (the state) to stop the players from playing, sure many still play illegally, but don't want to know how many of them have been driven to the state casinos - exactly what the state wants, because of Player protection you can burn 5000€ in 1 minute....

maybe there is some kind of loophole how you can offer all casinos ?

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Harald_B
Amateur
99% of players would never sign up for a German site, and everyone knows the reasons why.

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Donnie
Elite

zocker0815 wrote on February 11th, 2025 at 3:54 pm:

yes too bad drumm, is understandable


but it's not the players' fault but that you only offer german websites, it's logical if you read here in the forum how things are going in these casinos that nobody wants to play there anymore, they have achieved exactly what they wanted (the state) to stop the players from playing, sure many still play illegally, but don't want to know how many of them have been driven to the state casinos - exactly what the state wants, because of Player protection you can burn 5000€ in 1 minute....

maybe there is some kind of loophole how you can offer all casinos ?

It has been stated that the German state has attacked GJ and threatened legal action if they don't stop this and that. But GJ does not want to get involved in a lawsuit. You can also see on Guru and Co. that only German casinos can be seen there if you open the pages without a VPN. The state wants to "force" players into German casinos to gamble away their money there in order to generate tax revenue


I'm not surprised that registrations are decreasing, German casinos are not a really good product. In addition, casino players from over 3 years ago, when the German license was not yet fully in place, are used to other things, i.e. without the usual rules of German casinos. The chances of winning are also not the best and at some point word will get around that you hardly win anything. The day will come when there will be no more coins at all

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