I was just on Twitch and learned that Hauke from Casinotest24 will no longer do streams, since I think that many of you will be interested, I will simply copy the official statement here:
"So for those who didnt know already, i left CT24 and dont work together with Jörg anymore because of different reasons.
Sorry for popping up so late with this message, i took some time off at all and wasnt really talking much to all of the viewers and everyone else in the community.
It was really fun and i enjoyed the time a lot with you guys
but sometimes some things in life need a change, and i decided to leave ct24 which was a pretty tough decision for me.
I will hang around sometimes in different casino streams i guess and you can talk to me aswell, i basically quit my job and became a viewer
Im also not sure if i will ever stream again, but if i go with my own business it wont be within the next few months.
Thanks everyone for all the support over the time, without you it would not be possible to stream at all!"
Personally, I find it a bit of a shame, because apart from Gamblejoe there was only Casinotest24 which videos I have watched with pleasure and where I have turned on the stream from time to time... but let's see how that goes on now with Casinotest24, and whether Jörg will now go it alone or even find a new "partner".
If Hauke should read this, I wish him all the best and hope that he comes through the "break" at least something from the daily gaming, because it will be in the long run as a Streamer certainly not very good for health
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Hauke leaves Casinotest24?
27th Jan. 2018, at 11:33 pm CET#2
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😳😳😳 oha this is really "news"... I would be really interested what the reasons are. The step is not exactly insignificant ...
Aka wrote on 27.01.2018 at 23:33: 😳😳😳 oha this is really "news"... would me really times interested what the reasons are. The step is not exactly insignificant ...
Is certainly about money ... either he has too little of it or he gets too little is but always so with ner work ... in the end, it's almost always about coal
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28th Jan. 2018, at 12:27 am CET#4
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locke2kk wrote on 28.01.2018 at 00:11
Aka wrote on 27.01.2018 at 23:33: 😳😳😳 oha this is really "news"... would be me really interested times what the reasons are. The step is not exactly insignificant ...
Is certainly about money ... either he has too little of it or he gets too little is but always so with ner work ... in the end, it's almost always about coal
Or maybe it has moral greens? ^^
I think the money cans rather less, as an Affiliate in the casino area earns but actually pretty good? I thought at least
Aka wrote on 01/27/2018 at 23:33: 😳😳😳 oha this is really "news"... would be me really interested times what the reasons are. The step is not exactly insignificant ...
Is certainly about money ... either he has too little of it or he gets too little is but always so with ner work ... in the end, it's almost always about coal
Or maybe it has moral greens? ^^
I think the money cans rather less, as an Affiliate in the casino area earns but actually pretty good? I thought at least
Hmm you can theoretically earn well... but so ne giant range they have now also not ... but much more is there the question of whether he was an equal partner or rather something like an employee... . Always ask me what you write in your resume... last activity... Casino Streamer hehe
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locke2kk wrote on 01/28/2018 at 00:33 PM
tby333 wrote on 01-28-2018 at 00:27 AM
locke2kk wrote on 01/28/2018 at 00:11
Aka wrote on 01/27/2018 at 23:33: 😳😳😳 oha this is really "news"... would be me really interested times what the reasons are. The step is not exactly insignificant ...
Is certainly about money ... either he has too little of it or he gets too little is but always so with ner work ... in the end, it's almost always about coal
Or maybe it has moral greens? ^^
I think the money cans rather less, as an Affiliate in the casino area earns but actually pretty good? I thought at least
Hmm you can theoretically earn well... but so ne giant range they have now also not ... but much more is there the question of whether he was an equal partner or rather something like an employee... . Always ask me what you write in your resume... last activity... Casino Streamer hehe
Mmh that's right, because the CV should be complete and Casino Streamer doesn't sound positive for many people
Well, but I think that they already had enough range or?^^
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28th Jan. 2018, at 01:11 am CET#7
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Hmmm furthermore I think Hauke lives in Germany... maybe something because of tax etc? and on the other hand... you may earn a lot as a streamer... but also 10000 euro are quickly gambled away... I mean you get relatively much money but will be addicted to it ... and I think if son Streamer makes 10k a month is there nothing taxed etc.. and I do not think if you live in Germany that is legal ^^
Reasons could be the following and also almost moved me to stop GambleJoe at that time:
1. Feelings of shame or a guilty conscience. Casino is not such an honorable industry and depending on what kind of person you are, it can be hard on your stomach. At least if you have frequent contact with players who email you about their fates. Then of course it also depends on how you run it in the end ...
2. Own Gambling addiction: It doesn't get better if you do it professionally! And you don't have to earn so much, but even if you do, the money is never enough! I used to gamble with Jörg, where he was at the very beginning, often over Skype and the guy really plays a lot - even where he hasn't streamed yet. Honestly, I've never seen someone who gambles so awesome. It's not about the amount he gambles, it's about the amount of time he spends doing it. I don't know if it has improved in the meantime, but back then he was gambling at all times of the day. At that time still in the low range between 20 cents and maximum 1€. So I'm assuming that he gambles with real money, although I don't want to vouch for anyone since the Online Casinos tube story.
3. Financial problems, despite possibly good earnings. Even if one earns 5,000€ or maybe even 10,000€ in the month, then many do not think about the fact that one must also pay about 50% taxes on the income. No matter what you earn with 50% deductions must always count. If you don't even file a tax return and gamble the money away, for example, it will come out sooner or later and then it will be more severe than in point 2. Depending on how much you have evaded taxes, you can end up behind bars for a few years or pay such high penalties that you will not be happy or ruined so quickly. With tax offenses the state knows no mercy and punishes harder than many a manslayer. If one pays taxes comes possibly sometime the tax inspector and finds out that the money is illegally earned - everything in the long term in Germany not so good.
4. Illegality: I could imagine that Hauke, like me, possibly has other sources of income - maybe even a real job. And if you are not ready to leave Germany, then it can always happen that the state power comes, searches your place, confiscates your computer and you are sentenced. If you are convicted, the money you earned with it will be confiscated and you can pay a fine on top. If you have spent the money and have other sources of income, then the money will be confiscated. And being a casino Affiliate is definitely not a gray area anymore, because it is gambling advertising and that is forbidden in Germany. In other words, you can't plan a future with this activity in Germany at the moment, no matter how much you earn and the more you earn, the higher the probability that it will be checked where the money actually comes from.
5. He has found something else that works better. Affiliate activities exist in every field and in my experience it is much easier - and usually more lucrative - to earn money online in other industries. Example DSL contracts. As an affiliate, you get 75€ from 1&1, for example, if you refer a DSL 16,000 package. If you manage to find more new customers than the average, then it is also easy to increase the commission to 100€ or 125€ per new customer. You won't get more in the online casino sector (with reputable online casinos) - often even less. The target group for DSL is also much larger. Everyone in Germany needs Internet but only a few percent of the population are players and even fewer percent of them are interested in playing online. Casino, however, is extremely competitive and the target group is small. Casino is not as lucrative as many think. On top of that, due to any changes in the law, casinos can be closed from one day to the next ...
6. He got too little money from Jörg or quarreled with him. I honestly do not believe that, because otherwise he would do his own thing and would not say that he is from now on "spectator".
It can have many, many reasons and maybe it's a mix of the above. One does not know ...
Speaking of which, once you've been self-employed, you generally have a much harder time finding a permanent job again. No matter if you were a CasinoStreamer or did something else. Of course CasinoStreamer is even worse regarded in the resume
I would also not like to hire a former self-employed person, because he has already sniffed the "freedom" and you can not tame him so easily. A self-employed person is also no longer as disciplined about things like showing up to work on time. If you hire a former self-employed person, who was even successful and earned good money, then I can't motivate him with a 200€ salary increase. With a self-employed person, as an employer, you always fear that he will learn something from me and, based on his experience, have the courage to try to do his own thing and thus compete with me. Bosses are self-employed and know how these people tick
and Daniel above in his statement is but if he comes back then with his own company but not in the next few months,
so maybe liegst already at the contract model or yet at Jörg ... or he just also tries to go the legal way like StarGames for example ... and comes back when it is legal
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"So for those who didnt know already, i left CT24 and dont work together with Jörg anymore because of different reasons.
Sorry for popping up so late with this message, i took some time off at all and wasnt really talking much to all of the viewers and everyone else in the community.
It was really fun and i enjoyed the time a lot with you guys
but sometimes some things in life need a change, and i decided to leave ct24 which was a pretty tough decision for me.
I will hang around sometimes in different casino streams i guess and you can talk to me aswell, i basically quit my job and became a viewer
Im also not sure if i will ever stream again, but if i go with my own business it wont be within the next few months.
Thanks everyone for all the support over the time, without you it would not be possible to stream at all!"
Personally, I find it a bit of a shame, because apart from Gamblejoe there was only Casinotest24 which videos I have watched with pleasure and where I have turned on the stream from time to time... but let's see how that goes on now with Casinotest24, and whether Jörg will now go it alone or even find a new "partner".
If Hauke should read this, I wish him all the best and hope that he comes through the "break" at least something from the daily gaming, because it will be in the long run as a Streamer certainly not very good for health
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Is certainly about money ... either he has too little of it or he gets too little is but always so with ner work ... in the end, it's almost always about coal
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Or maybe it has moral greens? ^^
I think the money cans rather less, as an Affiliate in the casino area earns but actually pretty good? I thought at least
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Hmm you can theoretically earn well... but so ne giant range they have now also not ... but much more is there the question of whether he was an equal partner or rather something like an employee... . Always ask me what you write in your resume... last activity... Casino Streamer hehe
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Mmh that's right, because the CV should be complete and Casino Streamer doesn't sound positive for many people
Well, but I think that they already had enough range or?^^
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1. Feelings of shame or a guilty conscience. Casino is not such an honorable industry and depending on what kind of person you are, it can be hard on your stomach. At least if you have frequent contact with players who email you about their fates. Then of course it also depends on how you run it in the end ...
2. Own Gambling addiction: It doesn't get better if you do it professionally! And you don't have to earn so much, but even if you do, the money is never enough! I used to gamble with Jörg, where he was at the very beginning, often over Skype and the guy really plays a lot - even where he hasn't streamed yet. Honestly, I've never seen someone who gambles so awesome. It's not about the amount he gambles, it's about the amount of time he spends doing it. I don't know if it has improved in the meantime, but back then he was gambling at all times of the day. At that time still in the low range between 20 cents and maximum 1€. So I'm assuming that he gambles with real money, although I don't want to vouch for anyone since the Online Casinos tube story.
3. Financial problems, despite possibly good earnings. Even if one earns 5,000€ or maybe even 10,000€ in the month, then many do not think about the fact that one must also pay about 50% taxes on the income. No matter what you earn with 50% deductions must always count. If you don't even file a tax return and gamble the money away, for example, it will come out sooner or later and then it will be more severe than in point 2. Depending on how much you have evaded taxes, you can end up behind bars for a few years or pay such high penalties that you will not be happy or ruined so quickly. With tax offenses the state knows no mercy and punishes harder than many a manslayer. If one pays taxes comes possibly sometime the tax inspector and finds out that the money is illegally earned - everything in the long term in Germany not so good.
4. Illegality: I could imagine that Hauke, like me, possibly has other sources of income - maybe even a real job. And if you are not ready to leave Germany, then it can always happen that the state power comes, searches your place, confiscates your computer and you are sentenced. If you are convicted, the money you earned with it will be confiscated and you can pay a fine on top. If you have spent the money and have other sources of income, then the money will be confiscated. And being a casino Affiliate is definitely not a gray area anymore, because it is gambling advertising and that is forbidden in Germany. In other words, you can't plan a future with this activity in Germany at the moment, no matter how much you earn and the more you earn, the higher the probability that it will be checked where the money actually comes from.
5. He has found something else that works better. Affiliate activities exist in every field and in my experience it is much easier - and usually more lucrative - to earn money online in other industries. Example DSL contracts. As an affiliate, you get 75€ from 1&1, for example, if you refer a DSL 16,000 package. If you manage to find more new customers than the average, then it is also easy to increase the commission to 100€ or 125€ per new customer. You won't get more in the online casino sector (with reputable online casinos) - often even less. The target group for DSL is also much larger. Everyone in Germany needs Internet but only a few percent of the population are players and even fewer percent of them are interested in playing online. Casino, however, is extremely competitive and the target group is small. Casino is not as lucrative as many think. On top of that, due to any changes in the law, casinos can be closed from one day to the next ...
6. He got too little money from Jörg or quarreled with him. I honestly do not believe that, because otherwise he would do his own thing and would not say that he is from now on "spectator".
It can have many, many reasons and maybe it's a mix of the above. One does not know ...
Speaking of which, once you've been self-employed, you generally have a much harder time finding a permanent job again. No matter if you were a CasinoStreamer or did something else. Of course CasinoStreamer is even worse regarded in the resume
I would also not like to hire a former self-employed person, because he has already sniffed the "freedom" and you can not tame him so easily. A self-employed person is also no longer as disciplined about things like showing up to work on time. If you hire a former self-employed person, who was even successful and earned good money, then I can't motivate him with a 200€ salary increase. With a self-employed person, as an employer, you always fear that he will learn something from me and, based on his experience, have the courage to try to do his own thing and thus compete with me. Bosses are self-employed and know how these people tick
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and Daniel above in his statement is but if he comes back then with his own company but not in the next few months,
so maybe liegst already at the contract model or yet at Jörg ... or he just also tries to go the legal way like StarGames for example ... and comes back when it is legal
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