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News & Notices: GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV (Page 5)

Topic created on 07th Nov. 2022 | Page: 5 of 13 | Answers: 124 | Views: 22,397
ruhrpott
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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

8th Nov. 2022, at 05:11 pm CET#41
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@Matthias
It is really a pity to hear how uncooperative the authority was in the case. When you say that you have offered various solutions, I believe you.
For you and your business I just hope that you can list several licensed casinos here as soon as possible and you can earn money accordingly. Because one thing is clear, Gamblejoe is and remains the forum / community in Germany to which no one even comes close

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gamble1
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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

8th Nov. 2022, at 05:52 pm CET#42
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ruhrpott wrote on 08.11.2022 at 17:11: @Matthias
It's really a shame to hear how uncooperative the authority was in the case. When you say you guys offered a wide variety of solutions, I believe you.
For you and your business I just hope that you can list several licensed casinos here as soon as possible and you can earn money accordingly. Because one thing is clear, Gamblejoe is and remains the forum / the community in Germany to which no one even comes close

I just have the fear that the licensed casinos do not bring in the money purely for advertising as the unlicensed and then there would still be the problem that many certainly say "You crazy I let me there but not dictate where I have to play" and leave it or look for the casinos on the sites that are now already uncooperative with the authority conspicuous


With an IP block you can hardly prevent people permanently I mean you can see how well it works in countries that ban Facebook and co

But even if GJ in the end zb advertising must switch to earn money we the users have it in the hand of our page on which we have spent years until now to help I mean with which crazy I argue because otherwise about the eternal theme manipulated or not

Lots of love goes out to the users and of course the team

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ruhrpott
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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

8th Nov. 2022, at 06:05 pm CET#43
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Yes, this is definitely a problem, I'm with you.... I still secretly hope that the rules that the casinos have to implement in the future may change one or the other (for example, the activation of autospins again), and thus the licensed casino for us players become much more attractive. This would in turn then also help gamblejoe, since more players would then also decide to gamble there...

I also believe that Matthias & Co. will have all the ideas internally sounded out, but the solution now for the moment is the one that brings the least problems with it

Basically, I also think gamblejoe can quietly advertise. I mean, in the end, it's a matter of getting used to it anyway, and at some point you don't really pay attention to it anymore

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Ichbins2018
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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

8th Nov. 2022, at 06:26 pm CET#44
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Igamble1 wrote on 08.11.2022 at 13:03


And it can't be said enough the rules of the new oh so great state treaty help no one but the owners and decision makers to make even more money brings me a single player who feels better protected by the rules than in an unlicensed casino there you can look for a long time

The people are more frustrated than before and all have had enough of the people are no longer heard and if they think they have to treat a criminal because he puts his own money in a casino that has no license in Germany they should do that long let the people do not put up with it


Well - there are a lot of rules here that we have to abide by - and specifically regarding gambling, without a gambling treaty this would most likely get completely out of hand.

Hmm yes "decision makers" - I would say that the German state has been fooled for years by the GI, after all gambling without a license was banned until June or July 21 (except for a few licenses in SH). Stupid only that no one and nothing kept to it (not until today!) and the state has long time "decision makers" happily watched.
Currently, however, it seems that in Germany is also made nails with heads, so similar to other European countries / neighbors / partners, finally, some have already demonstrated how it can / could work

As for being frustrated - I was frustrated for over 30 years, dissatisfied with everyone and everything.
For more than 10 years the word frustration does not appear in my bible anymore.
Everybody can/should still do what he/she wants... but it is noticeable at this point (and in many contributions/forums) that this "hobby" causes a lot of frustration
As for the last, but I'm pretty sure that always has to do with yourself - and is not owed to others!

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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

8th Nov. 2022, at 07:55 pm CET#45
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08.11.2022 at 18:26
Well - there are a lot of rules here that we have to abide by - and specifically as far as gambling is concerned, without a gambling treaty it would very likely get completely out of hand.

Hmm yes "decision makers" - I would say that the German state has been fooled for years by the GI, after all gambling without a license was banned until June or July 21 (exception a few licenses in SH). Stupid only that no one and nothing kept to it (not until today!) and the state has long time "decision makers" happily watched.
Currently, however, it seems that in Germany is also made nails with heads, so similar to other European countries / neighbors / partners, finally, some have already demonstrated how it can / could work

As for being frustrated - I was frustrated for over 30 years, dissatisfied with everyone and everything.
For more than 10 years the word frustration does not appear in my bible anymore.
Everybody can/should still do what he/she wants... however, it is noticeable at this point (and in very many contributions/forums) that this "hobby" causes a lot of frustration
As for the last, I'm pretty sure that always has to do with yourself - and is not owed to others!

It's not about the rules in and of themselves that is important and also completely justified but why must everything be equated with a disenfranchisement why can not people choose and keep the rules a little looser this hypocrisy upsets me

Private providers are regulated broken no matter whether arcade or OC because there you earn only 50% so why not ban completely well quite simply for the very hard despite the largest dirt devices continue to use the offer for various reasons there is still enough left and that you take with pleasure and the state casinos where you earn 100% can do what they want without having to adhere to restrictions

And since one takes then gladly the argument with the great Player protection which looks in no point different as with a private Provider but of course one gives first a statement are the people anyway stupid and question nothing

So who stands here and is convinced that it is not only about the coal?

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Marsimoto
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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

10th Nov. 2022, at 10:30 am CET#46
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You can see how this dirty state is trampling on our basic rights and restricting or taking them away more and more. You are not even a casino that has to abide by any gambling laws. Goodbye freedom of speech, welcome to the Stasi 2.0. If now already a forum on the Internet is censored, you see how far we are unfortunately.... Through the new laws only our stupid state benefits and the players are excluded even more. So much for player protection. Now I would all the more not dance to those of their pipe. There are always ways to circumvent the laws, even if I'm not an expert. Set up your servers outside the EU or make a .onion site... what do I know
The main thing is that our authorities are powerless! But don't let these criminals shut you up.

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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

10th Nov. 2022, at 11:11 am CET#47
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Marsimoto wrote on 10.11.2022 at 10:30 am: You can see how this dirty state tramples on our basic rights and restricts them more and more or takes them away. You are not even a casino that has to abide by any gambling laws. Goodbye freedom of speech, welcome to the Stasi 2.0. If now already a forum on the Internet is censored, you see how far we are unfortunately.... The new laws only benefit our stupid state and the players are excluded even more. So much for player protection. Now I would all the more not dance to those of their pipe. There are always ways to circumvent the laws, even if I'm not an expert. Set up your server outside the EU or make a .onion site... what do I know
The main thing is that our authorities are powerless! But don't let these criminals stop you from talking.

Exactly so we must not allow censorship the generations before us have fought hard for freedom in most parts of the world so it is probably the least we can do when we take a stand that we will not be censored no matter if someone sees it as advertising or not

I don't automatically gamble at every casino just because it's here on the site, so you're not necessarily breaking the law

The main problem is simply if you accept that once without comment who guarantees that it does not hit soon more what is censored ? In 2022 they want to block casinos for Player protection and Po*** sites for the protection of minors what comes in 2025 ?

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Stromberg
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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

10th Nov. 2022, at 01:12 pm CET#48
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It's amazing how you guys can get into this....

The forum is zero comma zero censored

Not even GJ or another Affiliate will doubt that affiliatelinks are advertising...

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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

10th Nov. 2022, at 01:35 pm CET#49
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Stromberg wrote on 11/10/2022 at 1:12 pm: Madness how you can get into this....

The forum is zero comma zero censored

Not even GJ or any other Affiliate will doubt that affiliatelinks are advertising...


It's a matter of principle just because there are links it doesn't mean you click on them and if GJ has to delete things for DE or the forum is blocked it's nothing more than censorship because the authority doesn't like something - that's exactly how it works in the other countries with Facebook and all that stuff

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GambleJoe: Current state of affairs with the GlüStV

10th Nov. 2022, at 01:49 pm CET#50
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gamble1 wrote on 10/11/2022 at 13:35

It's a matter of principle just because there are links it doesn't mean you click on them and if GJ has to delete things for DE or the forum is blocked it's nothing more than censorship because the authority doesn't like something exactly the same way it works in the other countries with Facebook and all that stuff

GJ is first of all not a forum. Even if there is certainly a lot of passion behind it, it is a site to make money with advertising.

In many countries gambling is regulated. And if there are then licenses of the countries, unlicensed providers are illegal and advertising bans are logical (that the regulation is made shit, I have said often enough)

Censorship would be if you would block the forum because of the statements made in it, but that's not the point.

It would be easy to run the forum on another site, just as a forum, without advertising /affiliatelinks.

There is certainly a lot of opinion made in the media and "social" networks.
But what happens here because of Online Casinos, does not belong to it for me

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