There are some people here who seem to have a real problem with GJ. I ask myself "Who do you think you are?". No one is keeping you here and it will continue without you sourpusses. No matter how long you've been here.
I hope there will soon be consistent action against the sourpusses.
But you can also see that some people here would also like to have the position of community forum moderator, even if they don't say so openly. There is already one point of criticism. You could have asked all the people here in advance if they wanted the post. If 20, 30, 40 people had agreed, what would have happened then? How could everyone have been satisfied? Start an interview marathon, casting or rap battle to determine the "winners"? It's difficult to find a healthy way. But you can understand that you're unhappy about not being asked (I'm not)
But the fear of abuse of the mods is pretty laughable. No one here is going to be innocently thrown on death row with a subsequent electric chair. If someone feels unfairly treated, they can always write to GJ and sort it out
I don't think remuneration is anyone's business. Not only because it's a private matter, but also because the mods would quickly become vulnerable. I think it's completely ok that the guest mods continue to take part in lotteries here, but not everyone will like it. But it's actually nonsense to even think about it
The whole topic has been quite overdramatized, but also holds potential for conflict, there's quite a lot going on here🤣
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Patizi wrote on 08.09.2024 at 20:10: There are some people here who seem to have a real problem with GJ. I ask myself "Who do you think you are?". No one is keeping you here and it will continue without you sourpusses. No matter how long you've been here.
I hope there will soon be consistent action against the sourpusses.
Then have an ass in your pants and name your sourpusses!
You're just jumping on the bandwagon with Julian to possibly be and become a mod for sports betting or continue to hope that your 15 sports betting tips per WEEK will now be accepted to get coins!
In contrast to you, I have an opinion, justify it and don't hide behind Julian!
Just as I can't understand Julian's opinion, he doesn't understand mine or anyone else's!
Open opinions are part of it, regardless of whether you like them or not, unless you want to prevent them in general!
And then to demand bans or exclusions without giving names and reasons is the most pathetic kind of communication!
Donnie wrote on 08.09.2024 at 20:27: But you can also see that some people here would also like to have the position of a community forum moderator, even if it is not so openly expressed. There is already one point of criticism. You could have asked all the people here in advance if they wanted the post. If 20, 30, 40 people had agreed, what would have happened then? How could everyone have been satisfied? Start an interview marathon, casting or rap battle to determine the "winners"? It's difficult to find a healthy way. But you can understand that you're unhappy about not being asked (I'm not)
But the fear of abuse of the mods is pretty laughable. No one here is going to be innocently thrown on death row with a subsequent electric chair. If someone feels unfairly treated, they can always write to GJ and sort it out
I don't think remuneration is anyone's business. Not only because it's a private matter, but also because the mods would quickly become vulnerable. I think it's completely ok that the guest mods continue to take part in lotteries here, but not everyone will like it. But it's actually nonsense to even think about it
The whole topic has been quite overdramatized, but also holds potential for conflict, there's quite a lot going on here🤣
I don't think it's anyone's business how GJ decides who is a mod here. Some here act like it's their site. Criticism is ok but some criticism can be shoved somewhere else because you simply don't have the right to criticize certain things. GJ is the host and if they want they can put a little monkey there and let him moderate.
The same applies to remuneration, where transparency is required. Do these people walk around with their salary bill around their necks? What does it matter what the mods get? And if it ends up being 1000 euros...who cares? They're welcome to it! And yes, I know it's not 1000 euros. I really agree with you that it's nonsense to worry about it.
Some people just use this topic to provoke and celebrate how harsh their words are, but supposedly still within reason. No, your words are not within reason because your criticism is simply garbage!
Then have an ass in your pants and call your sourpusses !
You're just jumping on the bandwagon with Julian to possibly be and become a mod for sports betting or continue to hope that your 15 sports betting tips per WEEK will now be accepted to get coins!
In contrast to you, I have an opinion, justify it and don't hide behind Julian!
Just as I can't understand Julian's opinion, he doesn't understand mine or anyone else's!
Open opinions are part of it, regardless of whether you like them or not, unless you want to prevent them in general!
And then to demand bans or exclusions without giving names and reasons is the most pathetic kind of communication!
Does he also hope that as a mod he can get even more free stuff Does he seriously want to tell anyone here what they can or can't say....
Then have an ass in your pants and call your sourpusses !
You're just jumping on the bandwagon with Julian to possibly be and become a mod for sports betting or continue to hope that your 15 sports betting tips per WEEK will now be accepted to get coins!
In contrast to you, I have an opinion, justify it and don't hide behind Julian!
Just as I can't understand Julian's opinion, he doesn't understand mine or anyone else's!
Open opinions are part of it, regardless of whether you like them or not, unless you want to prevent them in general!
And then to demand bans or exclusions without giving names and reasons is the most pathetic kind of communication!
No, you don't have a real opinion. Your sentences just show how unhappy you are. It's ok if you're not happy with your life but please don't take it out on others. You are just provoking and triggering. I've asked you to stop several times and you keep doing it. Now you've just written something out of anger again. Your comments to me are simply pointless because you take part in lotteries yourself. Regardless of whether someone is organizing one here or the monthly raffle. If you have such a problem with someone admitting that he likes to take the coins if he can get some then that's ok but please exclude yourself from the monthly lottery and also from lotteries of other users, please stay away. Get a grip on yourself!
Also want to hope that he can grab more free stuff as a mod Does he seriously want to tell anyone here what you can or can't say....
"He" also has a name. But you can call me Wettkönig from now on. Blubbo can do that too, of course.
I recommend you read through your comments or those of your buddy Blubbo. Your comment will fit in perfectly. You both like to try something like that. But self-reflection is really difficult for some people
Individual users may have a problem with Julian or GJ, but I wouldn't say that everyone who has expressed their concerns feels this antipathy towards GJ and/or Julian. You can understand or at least sympathize with some of the criticisms. Personally, I think the criticism that GJ didn't get feedback from the community in advance is partly fair and good, although I can also understand GJ's fears. You can see that at the moment and I'm sure there would have been this kind of criticism. It doesn't matter whether it was from the same users, but someone would have had these concerns and posted them. I can also understand that some regular users think that the position will change the behavior of the users, but what I personally can't understand is why people are too hasty. It's a test phase... it's just a trial, nothing more. Just wait and see and drink tea.
I also think it's a bit awesome that the mods are being asked to expose themselves and are expected to reveal why/why/how they accepted the offer. I'll be honest here and say that if I had gotten the offer 3 weeks or so ago, I would have accepted it the same way. I didn't receive it, but at the time I would certainly have accepted. But it's nobody's business why/why/why not I would have accepted the offer. Especially not if I'm practically being asked to do so and especially if the person asking for it isn't an authoritarian person.
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Patizi wrote on 08.09.2024 at 20:50:
"That one" has a name too. But you can call me Wettkönig from now on. Blubbo can do that too, of course.
Good thing you're taking the p**s out of yourself, I don't have to.
Good thing you're kidding yourself, I don't have to do that.
That's exactly it. In the end there's not much except a stupid line. Just like your previous comment, which is absolutely paradoxical.
The fact that Blubbo, among others, demands transparency is okay for you. Where is your comment regarding "Does he seriously want to dictate to anyone here?" in his comments? Blubbo very often wants to "dictate" to people here. Why don't you answer objectively and not based on sympathy?
Also want to hope that he can grab more free stuff as a mod Does he seriously want to tell anyone here what you can or can't say....
Yes, and he also wants to crack down on anyone who disagrees with him.
To be fair, however, it has to be said that GJ as a whole is a forum where you can freely express your opinion on most topics. That's why I can't quite understand why Julian feels so personally attacked here and accuses those with a different opinion of "maligning GJ" or something similar.
Most people here really like it and some people have criticisms of it. What exactly is wrong with it? Why exactly can't you say that without being immediately accused of the basest motives?
I personally don't care how much they get paid for it. I would even like them to receive as much as possible. That is not and never has been my point of criticism. I was much more concerned with the fact that I've always appreciated Saphira and gamble in particular as discussion partners and have otherwise enjoyed reading their contributions, and my fear is simply that this is now no longer the case or is no longer of the same quality as before.
And the question from another user here is also absolutely justified as to why a vote wasn't simply held shortly beforehand or why the topic was briefly discussed with the community. I mean, the community is otherwise even asked whether they want a GJ mascot or whether a disslike button should be introduced. So why can't we briefly touch on this topic?
As you can see, the response would have been overwhelmingly positive anyway. But well, that's just the way it is. But you could also just admit that it could have been done a little more cleverly. Instead, the critics are labeled as "detractors", yes, as people who only want bad things for GJ. Yes, that's clear. It doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory that several users here with thousands of posts just want to badmouth GJ. That's definitely the reason why they've been active here for years and keep the forum alive. Sorry, but these statements are really subterranean.
But if you want to do a happy dance, I can simply delete myself. And then anyone who is only here to "badmouth GJ" can join in. Then you'll have peace and quiet from the troublemakers and the forum will be clean and pure again.
Yes, and he also wants to crack down on anyone who disagrees with him.
To be fair, however, it has to be said that GJ as a whole is a forum where you can freely express your opinion on most topics. That's why I can't quite understand why Julian feels so personally attacked here and accuses those with a different opinion of "maligning GJ" or something similar.
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Falke wrote on 08.09.2024 at 21:12:
Yes, and he also wants to crack down on anyone who disagrees with him.
Thanks for the great contribution. Above all, he starts provoking Blubbo, for example, and then writes something like this:
Patizi: You are just provoking and triggering. I've asked you several times to stop and you keep doing it.
Patizi is someone who always wants to provoke at the back, but then acts up when something comes back. I've often noticed that.
And it was immediately clear to me that you were going to take the other side again. I've told you via PN that I'm not going to make any more jabs at you, but you have to come out publicly against me again.
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I hope there will soon be consistent action against the sourpusses.
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But the fear of abuse of the mods is pretty laughable. No one here is going to be innocently thrown on death row with a subsequent electric chair. If someone feels unfairly treated, they can always write to GJ and sort it out
I don't think remuneration is anyone's business. Not only because it's a private matter, but also because the mods would quickly become vulnerable. I think it's completely ok that the guest mods continue to take part in lotteries here, but not everyone will like it. But it's actually nonsense to even think about it
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Then have an ass in your pants and name your sourpusses!
You're just jumping on the bandwagon with Julian to possibly be and become a mod for sports betting or continue to hope that your 15 sports betting tips per WEEK will now be accepted to get coins!
In contrast to you, I have an opinion, justify it and don't hide behind Julian!
Just as I can't understand Julian's opinion, he doesn't understand mine or anyone else's!
Open opinions are part of it, regardless of whether you like them or not, unless you want to prevent them in general!
And then to demand bans or exclusions without giving names and reasons is the most pathetic kind of communication!
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I don't think it's anyone's business how GJ decides who is a mod here. Some here act like it's their site. Criticism is ok but some criticism can be shoved somewhere else because you simply don't have the right to criticize certain things. GJ is the host and if they want they can put a little monkey there and let him moderate.
The same applies to remuneration, where transparency is required. Do these people walk around with their salary bill around their necks? What does it matter what the mods get? And if it ends up being 1000 euros...who cares? They're welcome to it! And yes, I know it's not 1000 euros. I really agree with you that it's nonsense to worry about it.
Some people just use this topic to provoke and celebrate how harsh their words are, but supposedly still within reason. No, your words are not within reason because your criticism is simply garbage!
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Does he also hope that as a mod he can get even more free stuff Does he seriously want to tell anyone here what they can or can't say....
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No, you don't have a real opinion. Your sentences just show how unhappy you are. It's ok if you're not happy with your life but please don't take it out on others. You are just provoking and triggering. I've asked you to stop several times and you keep doing it. Now you've just written something out of anger again. Your comments to me are simply pointless because you take part in lotteries yourself. Regardless of whether someone is organizing one here or the monthly raffle. If you have such a problem with someone admitting that he likes to take the coins if he can get some then that's ok but please exclude yourself from the monthly lottery and also from lotteries of other users, please stay away. Get a grip on yourself!
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"He" also has a name. But you can call me Wettkönig from now on. Blubbo can do that too, of course.
I recommend you read through your comments or those of your buddy Blubbo. Your comment will fit in perfectly. You both like to try something like that. But self-reflection is really difficult for some people
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I also think it's a bit awesome that the mods are being asked to expose themselves and are expected to reveal why/why/how they accepted the offer. I'll be honest here and say that if I had gotten the offer 3 weeks or so ago, I would have accepted it the same way. I didn't receive it, but at the time I would certainly have accepted. But it's nobody's business why/why/why not I would have accepted the offer. Especially not if I'm practically being asked to do so and especially if the person asking for it isn't an authoritarian person.
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Good thing you're taking the p**s out of yourself, I don't have to.
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That's exactly it. In the end there's not much except a stupid line. Just like your previous comment, which is absolutely paradoxical.
The fact that Blubbo, among others, demands transparency is okay for you. Where is your comment regarding "Does he seriously want to dictate to anyone here?" in his comments? Blubbo very often wants to "dictate" to people here. Why don't you answer objectively and not based on sympathy?
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Yes, and he also wants to crack down on anyone who disagrees with him.
To be fair, however, it has to be said that GJ as a whole is a forum where you can freely express your opinion on most topics. That's why I can't quite understand why Julian feels so personally attacked here and accuses those with a different opinion of "maligning GJ" or something similar.
Most people here really like it and some people have criticisms of it. What exactly is wrong with it? Why exactly can't you say that without being immediately accused of the basest motives?
I personally don't care how much they get paid for it. I would even like them to receive as much as possible. That is not and never has been my point of criticism. I was much more concerned with the fact that I've always appreciated Saphira and gamble in particular as discussion partners and have otherwise enjoyed reading their contributions, and my fear is simply that this is now no longer the case or is no longer of the same quality as before.
And the question from another user here is also absolutely justified as to why a vote wasn't simply held shortly beforehand or why the topic was briefly discussed with the community. I mean, the community is otherwise even asked whether they want a GJ mascot or whether a disslike button should be introduced. So why can't we briefly touch on this topic?
As you can see, the response would have been overwhelmingly positive anyway. But well, that's just the way it is. But you could also just admit that it could have been done a little more cleverly. Instead, the critics are labeled as "detractors", yes, as people who only want bad things for GJ. Yes, that's clear. It doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory that several users here with thousands of posts just want to badmouth GJ. That's definitely the reason why they've been active here for years and keep the forum alive. Sorry, but these statements are really subterranean.
But if you want to do a happy dance, I can simply delete myself. And then anyone who is only here to "badmouth GJ" can join in. Then you'll have peace and quiet from the troublemakers and the forum will be clean and pure again.
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Thanks for the great contribution. Above all, he starts provoking Blubbo, for example, and then writes something like this:
The guy is simply ridiculous...
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And your provocation is okay?
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Patizi is someone who always wants to provoke at the back, but then acts up when something comes back. I've often noticed that.
And it was immediately clear to me that you were going to take the other side again. I've told you via PN that I'm not going to make any more jabs at you, but you have to come out publicly against me again.
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