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Feedback: state of PC technology (Page 2)

Topic created on 30th Nov. 2024 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 29 | Views: 856
upola
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 01:12 pm CET#16
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The video is an advertisement for dubaro, I can't take it seriously.
You're acting as if you only get junk from Amazon.
Besides, you can send everything back without any problems.

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Rainmann
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 01:57 pm CET#17
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R3hab wrote on 01.12.2024 04:54:

The RAM is good ssd is sufficient for now and CPU goes so and connections are also rather mäh usb c, hdmi is missing

If you want to use your new PC for longer, I recommend you not to buy it,

Have a look at this one

https://www.otto.de/p/hp-tg02-2213ng-gaming-pc-intel-core-i5-14400f-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-16-gb-ram-512-gb-ssd-luftkuehlung-1848637439/#variationId=1848637440

From 900 to 600 just and with it you have a new CPU and a good graphics card, new Bluetooth and WLAN versions
Hdmi and usb c, better for the future

Don't they have a CD drive these days? Or am I missing that🤦

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frapi07
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 02:07 pm CET#18
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upola wrote on 01.12.2024 at 13:12: The video is an advertisement for dubaro, I can't take that seriously.
You're acting as if you only get junk from Amazon.
Besides, you can send everything back without any problems.

If you can't take the video seriously, just google it. Should you buy a PC from amazon? (Computer, Gaming PC, PC configuration). I'm not the only one who says this and warns against buying from Amazon.


If you don't know which retailers are bad, then it's easy to fall for something like that.

They also do bench tests - you can't get a more objective evaluation.

Besides, not everything there is extremely bad, you're right. Even this channel finds good PCs on Amazon from time to time, but that happens rather rarely.



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gamble1
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 02:19 pm CET#19
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frapi07 wrote on 01.12.2024 at 14:07:

If you can't take the video seriously, just google it. Should you buy a Pc through amazon? (Computer, Gaming PC, PC configuration). I am not the only one who claims this and warns against buying from Amazon.


If you don't know which retailers are bad, then it's easy to fall for something like that.

They also do bench tests - you can't get a more objective evaluation.

Besides, not everything there is extremely bad, you're right. Even this channel finds good PCs on Amazon from time to time, but that happens rather rarely.




Ready-made PCs are usually not a good choice and are often overpriced. Often old or inferior hardware is installed that has been bought cheaply or has been in storage for a long time. On top of this, there is often a high surcharge for the assembly, which is not really justified if you know a bit about the technology.

What particularly bothers me is that such PCs are often marketed as "high-end gaming PCs", even though they barely deliver the performance. Many people who don't know their way around are blinded by such offers, especially by the aggressive marketing of large retailers such as Amazon or Media Markt. In the end, you end up paying much more than the PC is really worth and often don't get the quality you expect.

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frapi07
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 02:28 pm CET#20
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gamble1 wrote on 01.12.2024 at 14:19:

Ready-made PCs are usually not a good choice and often overpriced. Often old or inferior hardware is installed, which has been bought cheaply or has been in stock for a long time. On top of that, there is often a high surcharge for the assembly, which is not really justified if you know a bit about the technology.

What particularly bothers me is that such PCs are often marketed as "high-end gaming PCs", even though they barely deliver the performance. Many people who don't know their way around are blinded by such offers, especially by the aggressive marketing of large retailers such as Amazon or Media Markt. In the end, you pay much more than the PC is really worth and often don't get the quality you expect.

I am aware of this, but also because I know a bit about it. I don't currently own a gaming PC myself, but I bought one from Mediamarkt 15 years ago. It was an Acer Aspire Predator. But don't ask me about the specs, I don't remember them XD But it was an "8 corer". I had a few problems with it, especially with the stupid SSD. After 4 years my GPU broke down lol

I paid 1000€ for it back then - I wouldn't do it again.

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R3hab
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1st Dec. 2024, at 05:44 pm CET#21
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Rainmann wrote on 01.12.2024 at 13:57:

Don't they even have a CD drive these days? Or am I missing that🤦

They are out of order 😂

No more burning CDs for colleagues, today netflix acc is passed on 😁

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R3hab
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 05:51 pm CET#22
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gamble1 wrote on 01.12.2024 at 14:19:

Ready-made PCs are usually not a good choice and often overpriced. Often old or inferior hardware is installed, which has been bought cheaply or has been in stock for a long time. On top of that, there is often a high surcharge for the assembly, which is not really justified if you know a bit about the technology.

What particularly bothers me is that such PCs are often marketed as "high-end gaming PCs", even though they barely deliver the performance. Many people who don't know their way around are blinded by such offers, especially by the aggressive marketing of large retailers such as Amazon or Media Markt. In the end, you pay much more than the PC is really worth and often don't get the quality you expect.

It's not that easy, pc parts are very sensitive if you're not grounded, the parts can go in the ass, then installing BIOS and operating system is also not for the masses, you say so but you just know your way around, the normal user who just wants to work and surf rather not

But you're right, you get more for your money if you do it yourself
It's just not so easy going if you have no idea and patience
You have to love it otherwise it's a pain

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Rainmann
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 05:59 pm CET#23
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R3hab wrote on 01.12.2024 at 17:44:

They are out of order 😂

No more burning CDs for colleagues, today netflix acc is passed on 😁

Hehe OK thanks. If I ever get a PC again then at least I won't have to ask stupidly why there's no CD drive 😂😂

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gamble1
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2nd Dec. 2024, at 12:16 am CET#24
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R3hab wrote on 01.12.2024 at 17:51:

That's not so easy, pc parts are very sensitive if you are not grounded can make the parts in ass, then install BIOS and operating system is also nothing for the masses, you say so but you just know your way around, the normal user who just wants to work u surf rather not

But you're right, you get more for your money if you do it yourself
It's just not so easy going if you have no idea and patience
You have to love it otherwise it's a pain

So, don't get me wrong here: I'm not saying that it's that easy for the masses. But there are plenty of alternatives, such as watching videos on the internet, asking in technology forums or looking for people who can help you with it on classified ads or Facebook and the like. It's time-consuming, of course, but I think it's better than throwing even more money down the throats of these sometimes greedy dealers - for mostly "junk computers" where you lose out on performance that you've actually paid for.


Of course, not all providers are like this. There are also some who charge a serious amount for the setup. But especially if you have some time, you can make a pretty good comparison.

I always advise everyone, when they see a computer they want to buy, to search for the parts on Geizhals, add them to their watch list and then compare the total price with the retailer's offer. This way you can work out what they charge for assembly and their win (usually they have already earned money when buying). Sometimes you can see deviations that make you feel sick.

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MisterL
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state of PC technology

2nd Dec. 2024, at 03:04 am CET#25
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yes, i already have a bit of an idea and i would succeed.

but to re-read everything again, etc.

it's black friday and reading through your comments and the 1-star ratings has helped me a lot.

and it's an interesting topic that others are also interested in,

"all for free"

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zocker0815
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state of PC technology

2nd Dec. 2024, at 12:29 pm CET#26
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i bought this gamer pc on amazon in 2021:

High-End Gaming PC|Intel Core i9-11900K - 8x3.5GHz|Branded Board|32 GB DDR4 3200 MHz|Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X|1000GB M.2 NVMe + 2000GB HDD|Windows 10 Pro|WLAN|3 years warranty



so i am also fully satisfied with it to this day i manage every game without any problems, and of course almost always the highest graphics setting that is possible in games.... have 3 screens connected of which the main screen with ultra HD curved (4k) and 28 inches

cost me 2500€ back then (just the computer), but I'm guessing that it will be another 500-1000 more expensive at the moment

i only posted mine here because many people here say that buying an amazon pc is nothing, but as I said, I'm completely satisfied with mine

PS: the link no longer works because the computer no longer exists




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frapi07
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state of PC technology

2nd Dec. 2024, at 01:08 pm CET#27
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zocker0815 wrote on 02.12.2024 at 12:29: I bought this gamer pc on amazon in 2021:

High-End Gaming PC|Intel Core i9-11900K - 8x3.5GHz|Branded Board|32 GB DDR4 3200 MHz|Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X|1000GB M.2 NVMe + 2000GB HDD|Windows 10 Pro|WLAN|3 years warranty



so i am also fully satisfied with it to this day i manage every game without any problems, and of course almost always the highest graphics setting that is possible in games.... have 3 screens connected of which the main screen with ultra HD curved (4k) and 28 inches

cost me 2500€ back then (just the computer), but I'm guessing that it will be another 500-1000 more expensive at the moment

i only posted mine here because many people here say that buying an amazon pc is nothing, but as I said, I'm completely satisfied with mine

PS: the link no longer works because the computer no longer exists





Amazon is often not the retailer per se and that is a problem. There are countless retailers who sell old or even used hardware for expensive money and market it as a gaming PC or something similar. Mr. L also made it clear that he has a limited budget. With 500€ you can already buy a gaming PC, but the performance will certainly not be enough to play on good quality. It will probably be at PS4/PS5 level. In any case, he wasn't looking for a gaming PC, but more of an office PC and there's also the problem I mentioned.

Here is an example: shinobee® Intel Core i7 4770 Multimedia PC - Fast computer for office & home office - Computer with 3.9 GHZ - 32GB RAM - 1000GB SSD - DVD+RW - USB3.0 - WLAN - Windows 11 Pro | MS Office | #6956: Amazon.de: Computers & Accessories

300€ for a PC with a CPU that is almost 12 years old. You lure the unsuspecting with large RAM and hard disks and market it as fast lol. With this one, it fulfills its purpose, but nothing more. For gaming, you can get all the junk devices that aren't suitable for gaming at all.


When I warned against Amazon and co. I also didn't know what kind of PC Mr. L wanted and since many people buy a PC for gaming, I warned against it. It's clear that you can also find good devices on Amazon. As I said, it depends on the budget and the retailer. You can also buy the latest iPhone from Amazon, which certainly has extremely good performance.

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R3hab
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state of PC technology

2nd Dec. 2024, at 05:41 pm CET#28
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zocker0815 wrote on 02.12.2024 at 12:29: I bought this gamer pc on amazon in 2021:

High-End Gaming PC|Intel Core i9-11900K - 8x3.5GHz|Branded Board|32 GB DDR4 3200 MHz|Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X|1000GB M.2 NVMe + 2000GB HDD|Windows 10 Pro|WLAN|3 years warranty



so i am also fully satisfied with it to this day i manage every game without any problems, and of course almost always the highest graphics setting that is possible in games.... have 3 screens connected of which the main screen with ultra HD curved (4k) and 28 inches

cost me 2500€ at the time (just the computer), but it's hard to estimate that it will be another 500-1000 more expensive at the moment

i only posted mine here because many people here say that buying an amazon pc is nothing, but as I said, I'm completely satisfied with mine

PS: the link no longer works because the computer no longer exists





Dude awesome part but 2500 euro ohaa

Plus the monitors omg not Bad not Bad

Let's see if gta 6 also goes to maximum with it 😁
This will be the new benchmark for PCs
Soon the 2 trailer will be out, soon it'll probably start
The game will be really hot

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Falko
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state of PC technology

2nd Dec. 2024, at 06:34 pm CET#29
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MisterL wrote on 02.12.2024 at 03:04: yes I already have a bit of an idea, I would also succeed.

but to re-read everything again etc.

it's black friday and reading through your comments and the 1-star ratings helped me a lot.

and it's an interesting topic that others are also interested in,

"all for free"

You can also ask ki, maybe they'll give you the brilliant Tip

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MisterL
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state of PC technology

3rd Dec. 2024, at 12:17 am CET#30
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Falko wrote on 02.12.2024 at 18:34:

You can also ask ki, maybe they will give you the brilliant Tip

if nothing is fun anymore, then ...... ... ... "everything for free"


concentrated intelligence versus AI

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