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Feedback: state of PC technology

Topic created on 30th Nov. 2024 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 10 | Views: 250
MisterL
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 03:59 am CET#1
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what is the state of the art in terms of home computers (how many cores? AMD OR INTEL? which graphics card?

i want to buy a new pc, and since it's currently black friday week, which pc can you recommend explicitly tailored to slots gaming?

i'm fed up of constantly getting bluescreens while gaming, since then i've only been losing



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gamble1
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 04:18 am CET#2
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So, you don't really need that much power for slot gaming. How much do you want to spend?

Intel Core i5/i7 (e.g. i5-12400F) or AMD Ryzen 5 (e.g. 5600X) (approx. €100).
A GTX 1660 or RTX 3060 is already too awesome here, but is enough for more than just slots. Then you still have a lot of leeway (approx. 250 €-300 €).
16 GB DDR4 RAM should also be more than enough.

You're at around €500 and should theoretically even be able to multitask in addition to gaming.

If you can build it yourself, without RGB lighting and all the bells and whistles, it's effectively a few simple steps, and I mean 2-3 cables that you have to plug in. You save even more, because the prices for assembly are usually outrageously high.

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frapi07
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 05:42 am CET#3
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A normal office PC for 200-300€ should be sufficient. It can be cheaper because they charge at least €50-70 for composing, but if you don't know anything about it, then I wouldn't bother. With a total price of 300€, the damage is limited, but the CPU, for example, is very sensitive and one mishap is enough and you can throw the CPU in the trash.

You can get less memory and get a better CPU/GPU in return. But don't expect the best quality in this price segment.

Personally, I would budget at least €800 for a PC (without screen and co.). It's better to invest a little more than to buy a piece of junk that breaks after 2-3 years.

By the way, the blue screen has nothing to do with your series of losses^^


Tip: stay away from Amazon/Mediamarkt and Saturn. Dubaro is a good site to buy PCs

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gamble1
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 07:44 am CET#4
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frapi07 wrote on 30.11.2024 at 05:42: A normal office PC for 200-300€ should be sufficient. It's cheaper because they charge at least 50-70€ for composing, but if you have no idea about it, I would stay away from it. With a total price of 300€, the damage is limited, but the CPU, for example, is very sensitive and one mishap is enough and you can throw the CPU in the trash.

You can get less memory and get a better CPU/GPU in return. But don't expect the best quality in this price segment.

Personally, I would budget at least €800 for a PC (without screen and co.). It's better to invest a little more than to buy a piece of junk that breaks after 2-3 years.

By the way, the blue screen has nothing to do with your series of losses^^


Tip: stay away from Amazon/Mediamarkt and Saturn. Dubaro is a good site to buy PCs


I'm also currently upgrading and actually share the same opinion: it's better to spend more and cover almost everything than to schedule the next upgrade for next year. Admittedly, the normal office user hardly needs any real power in the GPU, but if you have the option, it's better to go 1-2 levels higher. Who knows what else you might want to do spontaneously.

My old configuration was this one:


    Intel Core i7-12700F32 GB


    DDR4 RAMGeforce


    RTX 4090


    2TB M.2 SSD


    Gigabyte B660 motherboard


    Lian Li Galahad 240 AIO water cooling system


    Lian Li Lancool case


And now I'm upgrading the whole thing after, I think, 2-3 years. But not because of the performance, but because I no longer like the case. I'm throwing everything out except for the 4090 and replacing it:



    Intel® Core™ i9-14900KF (despite the known error, I took a Risk recently)


    32 GB DDR5 RAM


    Custom water cooling (only CPU for now, don't want to break the extended warranty of the 4090)


    Asus ROG Strix Z790-H WiFi motherboard


Not the best possible configuration, especially since AMD is launching a nice new processor at the beginning of the year that would fit better and the components are actually EOL. But I've been a bit late with my planning, and now unfortunately it has to be these parts.
The whole thing will then be rounded off with tons of RGB fans and other components and of course assembled by myself again. Purchase price approx. 1600 €. There are no upper limits, so to speak.

Mister L's blue screen doesn't necessarily have to be due to the system performance. Perhaps something in the OS has gone wrong. Perhaps he can post his current components here and we can try to localize the error. If necessary, send the logs from the HWInfo program.





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R3hab
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 10:12 am CET#5
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I've read nothing but good things about the new mac mini, it costs 699 and for that you get pretty good performance and a nice little design, and it's mega power efficient too.
It's a good device and more than sufficient for your purposes

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MisterL
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 11:16 am CET#6
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months ago i read "unfortunately forgotten again" that intel or amd technology is miles ahead of the others.

posting my pc data here - no, I'm making a fool of myself (emergency purchase back then)

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MisterL
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30th Nov. 2024, at 11:26 am CET#7
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playing computer games is no longer too time-consuming or too stressful for me

gaming was once

just looking at Dubaro looks too hardcore for me

say son part between 300-700 but very very quiet it should be

don't know AMD or INTEL

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frapi07
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 11:54 am CET#8
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gamble1 wrote on 30.11.2024 at 07:44:

I'm currently upgrading too and actually share the opinion: Better to spend more and cover just about everything than to schedule the next upgrade for next year. Admittedly, the normal Office user hardly needs any real power in the GPU, but if you have the option, it's better to go 1-2 levels higher. Who knows what else you might want to do spontaneously.

My old configuration was this one:


    Intel Core i7-12700F32 GB


    DDR4-RAMGeforce


    RTX 4090


    2TB M.2 SSD


    Gigabyte B660 motherboard


    Lian Li Galahad 240 AIO water cooling system


    Lian Li Lancool case


And now I'm upgrading the whole thing after, I think, 2-3 years. But not because of the performance, but because I no longer like the case. I'm throwing everything out except for the 4090 and replacing it:



    Intel® Core™ i9-14900KF (despite the known error, I took a Risk recently)


    32 GB DDR5 RAM


    Custom water cooling (only CPU for now, don't want to break the extended warranty of the 4090)


    Asus ROG Strix Z790-H WiFi motherboard


Not the best possible configuration, especially since AMD is launching a nice new processor at the beginning of the year that would fit better and the components are actually EOL. But I've been a bit late with my planning, and now unfortunately it has to be these parts.
The whole thing will then be rounded off with tons of RGB fans and other components and of course assembled by myself again. Purchase price approx. 1600 €. There are no upper limits, so to speak.

Mister L's blue screen doesn't necessarily have to be due to the system performance. Perhaps something in the OS has gone wrong. Perhaps he can post his current components here and we can try to localize the error. If necessary, send the logs from the HWInfo program.






Apparently he really only wants a standard PC.

MisterL wrote on 30.11.2024 at 11:26 am: I don't find playing computer games too time-consuming or too stressful anymore

gaming used to be

just look at Dubaro looks too hardcore for me

say son part between 300-700 but very very quiet it should be

just don't know AMD or INTEL

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To your question: it depends on what you want to do with the PC. But if it's an office PC, then you'll hardly notice any differences. So it doesn't matter whether you choose Intel or AMD. It's a matter of taste, so to speak. In general, however, it can be said that AMD is good for gaming and Intel is very energy-efficient.

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denyo123
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 12:51 pm CET#9
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Have a look around here. I also bought a used one there. I am super satisfied. There's also a 24% discount right now due to Black Friday.

https://www.mydealz.de/gutscheine/afb-black-friday-sale-mit-24-rabatt-auf-gebrauchte-laptops-pc-monitore-2461726

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MisterL
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state of PC technology

30th Nov. 2024, at 10:02 pm CET#10
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thanks for the Tip!!! what do you think of them?




Technical data
Condition: Used
Grading: Good
Form factor: Tower
Processor: Intel Core i7 8700 @ 3,2 GHz
CPU Generation: 8
Processor cores: 6
Onboard graphics: Intel® UHD Graphics 630
Data storage: 500 GB SSD
Memory: 32 GB DDR4
Product type: Workstation
WLAN: No
Operating system: Windows 11 Professional
Interfaces: 1x audio output - 3.5 mm, 1x audio input - 3.5 mm, 1x audio / microphone - 3.5 mm combo, 2x DisplayPort, 2x USB 2 type A, 6x USB 3 type A
Partner program: Yes
GTIN/EAN: 4255665765870
Dimensions (LxWxH): 434.34 x 170.18 x 355.6 mm
Weight: 8.2 kg


409,- minus 24 % = approx. 300,-

of course cheaper is always possible but have to work etc. no nerv for dat all

also already looked elsewhere then you read the reviews and already no more desire to press buy as if there is a system behind it
just like with the smart tv's.

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R3hab
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state of PC technology

1st Dec. 2024, at 04:54 am CET#11
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MisterL wrote on 30.11.2024 at 22:02: yes thanks for the Tip!!! what do you think of them?




Technical data
Condition: Used
Grading: Good
Form factor: Tower
Processor: Intel Core i7 8700 @ 3,2 GHz
CPU Generation: 8
Processor cores: 6
Onboard graphics: Intel® UHD Graphics 630
Data storage: 500 GB SSD
Memory: 32 GB DDR4
Product type: Workstation
WLAN: No
Operating system: Windows 11 Professional
Interfaces: 1x audio output - 3.5 mm, 1x audio input - 3.5 mm, 1x audio / microphone - 3.5 mm combo, 2x DisplayPort, 2x USB 2 type A, 6x USB 3 type A
Partner program: Yes
GTIN/EAN: 4255665765870
Dimensions (LxWxH): 434.34 x 170.18 x 355.6 mm
Weight: 8.2 kg


409,- minus 24 % = approx. 300,-

of course cheaper is always possible but have to work etc. no nerv for dat all

also already looked elsewhere then you read the reviews and already no more desire to press buy as if there is a system behind it
just like with the smart tv's.


The RAM is good ssd is sufficient for now and CPU is fine and connections are also rather mäh usb c, hdmi missing

If you want to use your new PC for longer, I recommend that you don't buy it,

Have a look at this one

https://www.otto.de/p/hp-tg02-2213ng-gaming-pc-intel-core-i5-14400f-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-16-gb-ram-512-gb-ssd-luftkuehlung-1848637439/#variationId=1848637440

From 900 to 600 just and with it you have a new CPU and a good graphics card, new Bluetooth and WLAN versions
Hdmi and usb c, better for the future

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