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Feedback: Deduction of 5 coins per month (Page 2)

Topic created on 18th Dec. 2024 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 22 | Views: 771
R3hab
Elite

frapi07 wrote on 20.12.2024 at 13:51:

He really did in the first post. I also replied normally. In the second post, however, he continued to blame others, although everyone here in the thread has stated in one way or another that such a "penalty fee" is common (even in OCs), that the loss is not that big and that this loss is self-inflicted.

I was/am not angry, by the way. He wasn't attacking me personally. I didn't take it personally at all. But it's just that I often hear things like that. Whether at work or somewhere else. There are always people who don't read and/or don't inform themselves but then shout loudly when they are sanctioned or whatever. That's exactly what you wrote. He wanted to "vent". If that were fair, e.g. if GJ hadn't mentioned anything like that anywhere, then that would have been okay. But wanting to "vent" even though you're not in the right? Of course you can, but then you don't need to be surprised about criticism.


The majority just don't read it, even Matthias didn't read the one about Paysafecard where money was deducted from the cards after 3 months, we didn't accuse him of reading the terms and conditions, it's how you deal with people and Matthias is no better than xardas or the other way around

Everyone was shooting against psc hahaha

What I'm getting at is that you don't have to be so hard on your colleague, and he should take it easy, the reasons have been given by many people

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frapi07
Elite

R3hab wrote on 20.12.2024 at 14:47:

The majority just don't read that, Matthias didn't read that with Paysafecard either, where money was deducted from the cards after 3 months, we didn't accuse him of reading the terms and conditions, it's how you deal with people and Matthias is no better than xardas or the other way around

Everyone was shooting against psc hahaha

What I'm getting at is that you don't have to be so hard on your colleague, and he should take it easy, the reasons have been given by many people

Correct. I also wrote that yesterday. Many people don't do that, not just Xardas. Nobody accused me of that, but I didn't want to label him as ignorant or anything like that, I wanted to make it clear that it's a written rule, that this penalty has a purpose and that you can find out about it (i.e. through your own fault).

You are welcome to criticize the penalty fee. But if you read his post, you won't find any objective criticism. The only thing I read is frustration over a trivial €20.

I may have pressed the accelerator pedal a little harder, but you have to understand that he continued to make a fuss, even though he'd been told off beforehand.

Finally, I want to say that you're right here. I could have taken a more relaxed approach and the colleague shouldn't have been so upset about €20.

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Donnie
Elite
Xardas wrote on 18.12.2024 at 21:39: I think it's a shame that you can't take a break from the whole game without losses, I was deducted 25 coins because I wasn't active....

Not exactly nice.

But a world is collapsing right now... laughable. I would have kicked him out of here just for being "not very nice". Anyone who doesn't want to log in here (except for good reasons like illness) isn't interested in the forum either

Just in general. But don't be surprised that some people suddenly show up here in December to take part in lotteries. When "DerHamburger" is drawn, you know what's going on

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frapi07
Elite

Donnie wrote on 20.12.2024 at 15:28:
A world is collapsing right now... laughable. I would have kicked him out of here just for being "not very nice". Anyone who doesn't want to log in here until then (except for good reasons like illness) isn't interested in the forum either

Just in general. But don't be surprised that some people suddenly show up here in December to take part in lotteries. When "DerHamburger" is drawn, you know what's going on

Gambling addiction is also a disease, so it's understandable that people don't register here while they're trying to get rid of this addiction.

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Olli_Eule
Elite
frapi07 wrote on 20.12.2024 01:05:

Normally I tend to keep a low profile, but it's worth mentioning here that you're venting your frustration and blaming others. It's a real shame that you don't want to admit your guilt.

It helps to be informed everywhere in life. Especially rules, regulations, etc. That way you know what's going on and you save yourself trouble. I can only recommend it to you. It has helped me many times in my life, especially at work or at university. Whose fault is it if you don't inform yourself about the terms of use of the site? Yours or GJ's?

GJ has clearly mentioned this in their terms of use. What else should GJ do? There is a reason for the deduction of collected coins for inactivity. I've already explained the reason before, so I won't explain it again. It makes sense and I think it's a good rule. Why should inactive users be rewarded? Just as an example: if you have 1000 coins, then you have an average increase in value of around €10 per month. If you are away for 4 years, your balance will increase by around €500 (I don't feel like calculating this as it's already late, but you get more per month - keyword: compound interest). Give me reasons why you think this "penalty fee" is bad. To be honest, I can't find any. You currently think this rule is bad because you were penalized by it. So you are not judging objectively, but subjectively.

Furthermore, your statement that you are punished for abstaining from gambling has not yet been confirmed. I have mentioned that you can pause your account here and that this "penalty fee" might not be susceptible. Nowhere is it mentioned that this is the case, which is why I am currently using the subjunctive mood. However, if a GJ admin confirms this assumption, then this statement would simply be wrong.

By the way, I find it awesome (in a negative sense) that someone who once won almost 200k gets so upset about a loss (self-inflicted) of about 20€. I don't mean any offense, but it reads as if your entire possessions have been taken away from you, but we're talking about €20.



Phew, that would be a good thing if you informed yourself about the rules beforehand, I agree. But there are so many rules in life that the mind can't perceive them all. For example, who reads the house rules in every indoor swimming pool, airport and train station? I'd like to know everything too, you're really right. It would be so cool to know everything in life. Then I would put my foot in my mouth less. Sometimes I think that I'm just as stupid and don't know everything.

I should think more, I should inform myself more. Is it even possible to know all the rules in life that are prescribed to you? I've been thinking about this for a very long time.

Do you know that you're not allowed to take Deposit bottles lying on the ground in a train station because it's forbidden to collect them there according to the house rules?
Or that you're not allowed to take bicycles into a pedestrian passage, even if you're pushing them through? Even though baby carriages are allowed?
That didn't happen to me with the bike, but I did see someone being reprimanded there once.


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frapi07
Elite

Olli_Eule wrote on 20.12.2024 at 16:33:
Phew that would be a good thing if you informed yourself about rules everywhere beforehand, I agree with you. But there are so many rules in life that the mind can't perceive them all. For example, who reads the house rules in every indoor swimming pool, airport and train station? I'd like to know everything too, you're really right. It would be so cool to know everything in life. Then I would put my foot in my mouth less. Sometimes I think that I'm just as stupid and don't know everything.

I should think more, I should inform myself more. Is it even possible to know all the rules in life that are prescribed to you? I've been thinking about this for a very long time.

Do you know that you're not allowed to take Deposit bottles lying on the floor of a train station because it's forbidden to collect them according to the house rules?
Or that you're not allowed to take bicycles into a pedestrian passage, even if you're pushing them through? Even though baby carriages are allowed?
That didn't happen to me with the bike, but I did see someone being reprimanded there once.



You can never know everything. Admittedly, knowing the GJ terms of use by heart is too much to ask, but you can read through them. It's not just about this topic, everything is regulated there, including things like "account blocking". It also states what you can and cannot post. If you want to be active in the forum, this can all be helpful.

In general, it would make sense to find out about the rules etc. on the sites where money (in whatever form) is involved.

An employment contract, for example, is something I would look into in depth. Of course, the forum here doesn't have the same priority.

I think you can take your bike with you in the pedestrian zone, but you have to get off. At least that's the case in my town. But I don't know if that's the same as a pedestrian passage.

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Langhans_innen
Expert

Olli_Eule wrote on 20.12.2024 at 16:33:

Do you know that you are not allowed to take Deposit bottles lying on the floor in a train station because it is forbidden to collect them there according to the house rules?

enforcing this rule here at Frankfurt main station would be the perfect life's work for the chief ad man

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Olli_Eule
Elite
frapi07 wrote on 20.12.2024 at 16:52:

You can never know everything. Admittedly, knowing the GJ terms of use by heart is also too much to ask, but you can read through them. It's not just about this topic, everything is regulated there, including things like "blocking your account". It also states what you can and cannot post. If you want to be active in the forum, this can all be helpful.

In general, it would make sense to find out about the rules etc. on the sites where money (in whatever form) is involved.

An employment contract, for example, is something I would look into in depth. Of course, the forum here doesn't have the same priority.

I think you can take your bike with you in the pedestrian zone, but you have to get off. At least that's the case in my town. But I don't know if that's the same as a pedestrian passage.

And there are different rules everywhere. Here at Lidl, the staff don't say anything if you take your own shopping bag into the store and then fill it with goods. In Berlin, however, I saw a man at Edeka who had his own bag with him and was thrown out for the reason that it is forbidden here.

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