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Feedback: Deduction of 5 coins per month

Topic created on 18th Dec. 2024 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 32 | Views: 1,705
Xardas
Amateur
I think it's a pity that you can't take a break from the whole game without losing money, I was deducted 25 coins because I wasn't active.

Not exactly nice.

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bruffl
Expert

Xardas wrote on 18.12.2024 at 21:39: I think it's a shame that you can't take a break from the whole game without losses, I was deducted 25 coins because I wasn't active....

Not exactly nice.

I don't think GJ deducted coins from you.

Maybe I lost track a bit.
I'm sure it will clear up...

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frapi07
Elite
bruffl wrote on 18.12.2024 at 21:53

I don't think GJ deducted any coins from you.

Maybe lost track a bit.
I'm sure it will clear up...

Yes, this is stated in the Terms of Use | GambleJoe under 5.4.

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Hanshanshans
Elite
If I were to take 11 months (if I've done the math correctly) off from playing, my real money savings would certainly be a lot higher than 25 GJ-Coins😂.
So the bottom line is a big plus. That will probably be the case for most people here. In my opinion, you can live with the "loss".

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frapi07
Elite
Hanshanshans wrote on 18.12.2024 at 22:10: If I were to take 11 months (if I've done the math correctly) off from all the daddling, my real money savings would certainly be a lot higher than 25 GJ-Coins😂.
So the bottom line is a big plus. That will probably be the case for most people here. In my opinion, you can live with the "loss".

The calculation should be correct (6 months of inactivity + 5 months of 5 coins each (25 coins were deducted) = 11 months.

This is most likely because the coins increase in value every month and you don't want to reward inactivity. Otherwise you could collect 1000 GJ Coins, be inactive for 4 years and still earn several hundred euros.

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upola
Legend
What exactly does inactive mean here?

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frapi07
Elite

upola wrote on 19.12.2024 at 08:40: What exactly does inactive mean here?

This question is also answered in the link I posted. Inactive means that you do not log in for at least 180 days in a row. From then on, the first of each month is automatically checked to see if you have logged in and if not, a 5 coin "penalty fee" is due.

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zocker0815
Top Member
Xardas wrote on 18.12.2024 at 21:39: I find it a pity that you can't take a break from the whole game without losses, I was deducted 25 coins because I wasn't active....

Not exactly nice.

i think it's the right thing to do, and besides, you could have avoided it by paying out everything before you took a break, then they could have deducted nothing from you


so what's your problem now?


I just looked at your win pictures and knew you looked familiar, didn't you mess up your 200k win back then?

isn't that why you took a break?

if it was like that i would ban myself for life if i were you, along with the forum here because if it really was like that then you should urgently seek help....

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frapi07
Elite
zocker0815 wrote on 19.12.2024 at 10:40 am:
i think it's the right thing to do, and besides, you could have avoided it by paying everything off before you took a break, then they could have deducted nothing from you


so what's your problem now?


I just looked at your win pictures and knew you looked familiar, didn't you mess up your 200k win back then?

isn't that why you took a break?

if it was like that i would ban myself for life if i were you, along with the forum here because if it really was like that then you should urgently seek help....

You can pause your account with GJ. I don't think you'll get anything deducted.

That would also invalidate TE's statement. You could take a break from gambling without having to accept losses.

The problem is that hardly anyone reads the terms and conditions of use or the general terms and conditions and at some point the surprise comes. This doesn't just apply to the TE, but is a general problem.

He didn't express it rudely. Somehow I can understand his annoyance. Currently, 25 coins are a little more than €20. But that's not GJ's fault.

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SixtyNine69
Rookie
My God, what a barrel the TE has opened just because he was debited a few coins, as if he had earned them with hard work. If you really depend on the GUTS coins, you should quit for good and start Gambling addiction therapy ...

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Xardas
Amateur
What I've won or lost doesn't matter, it's a ridiculous thing, you get deductions for not visiting the site, and no I don't gamble anymore, it's been years now! Nevertheless, I look in here as recently and lo and behold, deducted for inactivity, so use it up beforehand, otherwise you will still be punished for your life without gambling 😀

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Langhans_innen
Expert
Xardas wrote on 20.12.2024 at 00:31: What I have won or lost does not matter, a ridiculous thing is that, you get deductions because you do not visit the site, and no I continue not to gamble, have been years now ! Nevertheless, I look in here as I did recently and lo and behold, deducted for inactivity, so use them up first, otherwise you will be punished for your life without gambling 😀

So nobody is being "punished" in the sense of "ripped off" here, because they were given a gift beforehand, otherwise they wouldn't have any coins in their account. I wouldn't have had this rule to hand either, but I don't think it's at all unusual these days for people to be charged a fee as a kind of "cardholder" in many places (e.g. in banking, casinos, etc.). But you can't go into the red here - that's an advantage The whole procedure has nothing to do with a punishment for "living without gambling" - you've been gambling-free for years, but you're still here and are welcome to continue contributing. You wouldn't be the only ex-player who has stuck by GJ. If it fails now because of the loss of the 25 coins, it should be bearable for everyone.

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frapi07
Elite

Xardas wrote on 20.12.2024 at 00:31: What I have won or lost does not matter, a ridiculous thing is that, you get deductions because you do not visit the site, and no I continue not to gamble, have been years now ! Nevertheless, I look in here as I did recently and lo and behold, deducted for inactivity, so use them up first, otherwise you will be punished for your life without gambling 😀

Normally I tend to keep a low profile, but it's worth mentioning here that you're venting your frustration and blaming others. It's a real shame that you don't want to admit your guilt.

It helps to be informed everywhere in life. Especially rules, regulations, etc. That way you know what's going on and you save yourself trouble. I can only recommend it to you. It has helped me many times in my life, especially at work or at university. Whose fault is it if you don't inform yourself about the terms of use of the site? Yours or GJ's?

GJ has clearly mentioned this in their terms of use. What else should GJ do? There is a reason for the deduction of collected coins for inactivity. I've already explained the reason before, so I won't explain it again. It makes sense and I think it's a good rule. Why should inactive users be rewarded? Just as an example: if you have 1000 coins, then you have an average increase in value of around €10 per month. If you are away for 4 years, your balance will increase by around €500 (I don't feel like calculating this as it's already late, but you get more per month - keyword: compound interest). Give me reasons why you think this "penalty fee" is bad. To be honest, I can't find any. You currently think this rule is bad because you were penalized by it. So you are not judging objectively, but subjectively.

Furthermore, your statement that you are punished for abstaining from gambling has not yet been confirmed. I have mentioned that you can pause your account here and that this "penalty fee" might not be susceptible. Nowhere is it mentioned that this is the case, which is why I am currently using the subjunctive mood. However, if a GJ admin confirms this assumption, then this statement would simply be wrong.

By the way, I find it awesome (in a negative sense) that someone who once won almost 200k gets so upset about a loss (self-inflicted) of about 20€. I don't mean any offense, but it reads as if your entire possessions have been taken away from you, but we're talking about €20.


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R3hab
Elite

frapi07 wrote on 20.12.2024 01:05:

Normally I tend to hold back, but here you have to mention that you are venting your frustration and blaming others. It's a real shame that you don't want to admit your guilt.

It helps to be informed everywhere in life. Especially rules, regulations, etc. That way you know what's going on and you save yourself trouble. I can only recommend it to you. It has helped me many times in my life, especially at work or at university. Whose fault is it if you don't inform yourself about the terms of use of the site? Yours or GJ's?

GJ has clearly mentioned this in their terms of use. What else should GJ do? There is a reason for the deduction of collected coins for inactivity. I've already explained the reason before, so I won't explain it again. It makes sense and I think it's a good rule. Why should inactive users be rewarded? Just as an example: if you have 1000 coins, then you have an average increase in value of around €10 per month. If you are away for 4 years, your balance will increase by around €500 (I don't feel like calculating this as it's already late, but you get more per month - keyword: compound interest). Give me reasons why you think this "penalty fee" is bad. To be honest, I can't find any. You currently think this rule is bad because you were penalized by it. So you are not judging objectively, but subjectively.

Furthermore, your statement that you are punished for abstaining from gambling has not yet been confirmed. I have mentioned that you can pause your account here and that this "penalty fee" might not be susceptible. Nowhere is it mentioned that this is the case, which is why I am currently using the subjunctive mood. However, if a GJ admin confirms this assumption, then this statement would simply be wrong.

By the way, I find it awesome (in a negative sense) that someone who once won almost 200k gets so upset about a loss (self-inflicted) of about 20€. No offense intended, but it reads as if your entire possessions have been taken away from you, but we're talking about €20.



Come on, you'd better run

What are you talking about haha, he said a few sentences about something and wanted to vent, you're getting personal right away nenene

@xardas
GJ also loses money if the psc are not bought and I think it's still quite correct of them to wait so long, I would deduct more coins directly after 1 month of inactivity 😂

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frapi07
Elite

R3hab wrote on 20.12.2024 at 13:13:

Oh man come on you better runte

What are you talking about haha, he said a few sentences about something and wanted to vent, you're getting personal nenene

He really did that in the first post. I also replied quite normally. In the second post, however, he continued to blame others, even though everyone here in the thread has said in one way or another that such a "penalty fee" is common (even in OCs), that the loss is not that big and that this loss is self-inflicted.

I was/am not angry, by the way. He wasn't attacking me personally. I didn't take it personally at all. But it's just that I often hear things like that. Whether at work or somewhere else. There are always people who don't read and/or don't inform themselves but then shout loudly when they are sanctioned or whatever. That's exactly what you wrote. He wanted to "vent". If that were fair, e.g. if GJ hadn't mentioned anything like that anywhere, then that would have been okay. But wanting to "vent" even though you're not in the right? Of course you can, but then you don't need to be surprised about criticism.

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