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Poker in general: Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible (Page 2)

Topic created on 09th Apr. 2022 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 21 | Views: 4,750
Falke
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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 02:36 pm CEST#11
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Xavi22 wrote on 09.04.2022 at 14:22
You're taking a bit of a liberty here, I must say. I'm certainly not a "casual" gamer, but certainly don't have to prove anything to anyone here.
I doubt more and more that you have anything to do with Poker, let alone professionally.
If you did, you would know that it is very important to know how big the chipstacks of all four people are. Also the buyin and the price jump would be interesting.

We can go into detail here if you like. He's in the sb and repping probably a 70% hand range here. Depending on how loose he is, maybe even any 2. With his bet he could theoretically want to symbolize 89s or QJs here. He is almost successful with it.
Depending on how the other players are on scared money, this even makes half sense. Calling your all in is humbuk, of course. But again, his stack plays a big role here. If he plays here himself for tourney life, I'm with you and it's really strange. Maybe missclick? If he has 100 BB and you assume 89 or QJ, he is not so behind

I do not take anything out of it. I just want to have a proper hand analysis

Our chipstack is about the same size and yes, it was also about his Tournament life

If he pushes or raises preflop it would still be a good play because of the squeeze play. Then his hand is not very important

The call itself preflop is nothing unusual with A8, even if it is not a good move
But then missing the board completely on a 10, K, 7 flop, then betting directly into the other players first, where the board absolutely fits into the handrage of the other players, although he himself doesn't even have a backdoor draw and yes the actual aggressor was not yet on the turn. Betting UTG in this spot makes zero sense. Especially not for a player who showed a pretty decent game before

But then to call an all-in immediately without hesitation. And then of all things, the HAND ID is no longer traceable and I can't even use the player on partypoker

That's what I mean by that has nothing to do with bad play. The hand sequence is extremely suspicious, does not make sense in any way, unless you have inside info

And yes, I have seen a lot in my career. But this hand is so suspicious that I'm even posting it here. Because the overall picture makes no sense at all

I'm not taking anything out of it. But I don't want to read from the beginning only sentences like, Tough luck, it's just so, just badly played. Because that simply does not apply in this case

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Falke
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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 02:44 pm CEST#12
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Freakz0id wrote on 09.04.2022 at 14:30: Ever looked at pokerprolabs.com for the player?

Such movs I have also already brought ... if I had no more desire or time and it has now no 25$ or more buy in cost ... already tried to download the hand history?

I can't see the player nor the HAND ID. Partypoker claims it's a software bug and I should uninstall and install again.
But the same is directly on their website. And that's what makes it even more suspicious that I can't access the hand

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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 02:46 pm CEST#13
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Could you please post his player name? Let's see what kind of player he is...

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Falke
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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 02:47 pm CEST#14
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Royal777 wrote on 09/04/2022 at 14:46: Could you please post his player name? Let's see what kind of player he is...

I can't because I don't get any insight. See my last post

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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 02:51 pm CEST#15
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Falcon wrote on 09.04.2022 at 14:47
I can't because I don't get any insight. See my last post

Do you remember when the Tournament started approx. inclusiv. Buyin/game mode (bounty,deepstack etc). If you tell me your nick, then I might be able to find it. You can also use the communicator

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danny005
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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 02:58 pm CEST#16
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Superuser scandal 2.0 incoming.

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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 03:35 pm CEST#17
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So only the 1 hand is missing in the HH? That would be really strange. Do you use HM or any other tracker?

Find the hand in any case also very strange, no question. Especially if he has played really well before

But the RNG at Party works differently than at stars. With stars, flop turn river is fixed regardless of how the action is before. With party it is not like that. And that the site itself uses superusers I think is not so likely, because they have the license to legally print money. But I am aware that there used to be something like that on the ipoker sites. The standard answers from the support are in this case really easy suspicious, but I think they would answer the same garbage with another problem. Will the here ultimately no one can say exactly what that was, that was the few things I can think of. Would check it off and change the side, think you run there only against walls.

Does now rather nothing to the point, but why do you go there AI on the flop? I do not find so good, because you have to protect against almost nothing, and everything worse will fold on it. If I as a SB would have donned KJs there, for example, (I would never do, but only as an example) that would be for me a snapfold on the push of you. What were you afraid of? That QJ comes cheap to the turn? You even have a blocker with the Q.

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s****a

Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 06:11 pm CEST#18
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I have played in the 2000s also often times Poker tournaments online and experienced much...

There are m. M. after different options.
a) Player has no more Bock, it was too long for him, he goes all-in and is either good at it or out.
Probably he will make the move again at the next hands.
b) What was the Tournament all about ? With small sums people play quite unconvetionell

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Falke
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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

9th Apr. 2022, at 06:16 pm CEST#19
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 09.04.2022 at 15:35: So only the 1 hand is missing in the HH? That would be really strange. Are you using HM or any other tracker?

Find the hand in any case also very strange, no question. Especially if he was playing really well before

But the RNG at Party works differently than at stars. With stars, flop turn river is fixed regardless of how the action is before. With party it is not like that. And that the site itself uses superusers I think is not so likely, because they have the license to legally print money. But I am aware that there used to be something like that on the ipoker sites. The standard answers from the support are in this case really easy suspicious, but I think they would answer the same garbage with another problem. Will the here ultimately no one can say exactly what that was, that was the few things I can think of. Would check it off and change the side, think you run there only against walls.

Does now rather nothing to the point, but why do you go there AI on the flop? I do not find so good, because you have to protect against almost nothing, and everything worse will fold on it. If I as a SB would have donned KJs there, for example, (I would never do, but only as an example) that would be for me a snapfold on the push of you. What were you afraid of? That QJ comes cheap to the turn? You even have a blocker with the Q.

I will also do. Today was the last time I played there. The longer I think about it, the less sense it makes.

I thought the push made the most sense in that situation. There was already 100k preflop in the pot. 45k the bet UTG and it was my turn. The other two players had about twice the stakesize as me. So if I just call, I'm inviting AQ/AJ to bet on the gutshot. Even any 10 or 7 can call profitably here. Then I end up with maybe two players in the Pot and only 150k left in a 200k+ pot, so hardly any leverage.
You can certainly discuss it, but for me in this spot only the push came into question

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Nik89
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Player cheating at partypoker? - Hand history not visible

10th Apr. 2022, at 01:03 am CEST#20
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Hi I also played Poker actively for almost 10 years and in itself the hand played makes no sense that's true. But as Xavi22 already wrote there can be dozens of reasons for it. For example, I've been in situations where tournaments took much longer than expected or you suddenly had to go somewhere and force AI. In your case you could have done it before the flop but who knows what happened to your opponent. Money rank reached from to and and. I also do not quite understand why you write " immediately out of the Tournament with the A on the turn ", could have still hiten on the river. And even if most claim the opposite, I'm also sure or rather have it in the feeling that tutzende bots are used. That's why I stopped playing because at some point the saving cards on the river were just too much for the opponent. Sure coincidence can be extreme but if the gut feeling is no longer good you should leave it, as in your case now. I find your thread and the topic very interesting

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