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Poker in general: Can you trust any site anymore?

Topic created on 06th Apr. 2023 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 10 | Views: 1,788
Govi420

Can you trust any site anymore?

6th Apr. 2023, at 08:04 am CEST#1
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Hi, can online Poker providers still be trusted at all? Are there still reputable providers?
About my experience I have tried online poker on 3 different sites. Initially, it is just like in the online casino you win something, and then it is taken. I have magically won some hands and me at the 1st Provider directly from 100$ 1000$ win fetched this I have lost in 2 almost sure hands again the 5th card gives each time something better than my hand. Thereupon I looked at the ratings at Trustpilot, and this phenomenon on the 5th card seems to be common. I then deposited something else and you just could not win as soon as you are willing to take a Risk everything is taken away.
Then I have tested 2 more providers one wins at first again a few $ and then someone wins with completely bad cards on the river.
I have lost my confidence never is that right.

Things that I have noticed in particular:
It's always the same players no matter what time of day. Suddenly the style of play of the opponent is different and it is pushed to raise and go all in until the 4th card it always looks like you win and the 5th makes every time the other the winner. Strong hands on my side are folded in milliseconds I have never been able to play an AA as if the others would see them.

What do you think about this? Is it imagination through frustration?

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gamble1
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Can you trust any site anymore?

6th Apr. 2023, at 08:35 am CEST#2
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Govi420 wrote on 06.04.2023 at 08:04: Hi, can online Poker providers still be trusted at all? Are there still reputable providers?
About my experience I have tried online poker on 3 different sites. At first it is just like in the online casino you win something, and then it is taken. I have magically won some hands and me at the 1st Provider directly from 100$ 1000$ win fetched this I have lost in 2 almost sure hands again the 5th card gives each time something better than my hand. Then I looked at the ratings on Trustpilot, and this phenomenon on the 5th card seems to be common. I then deposited something and you just could not win as soon as you are willing to take a Risk everything is taken away.
Then I have tested 2 more providers one wins at first again a few $ and then someone wins with completely bad cards on the river.
I have lost my confidence never is that right.

Things that I have noticed in particular:
It's always the same players no matter what time of day. Suddenly the style of play of the opponent is different and it is pushed to raise and go all in until the 4th card it always looks like you win and the 5th makes every time the other the winner. Strong hands on my side are folded in milliseconds I have never been able to play an AA as if the others would see them.

What do you think about this? Is it imagination through frustration?

So I constantly lose when I log on somewhere new there must be broken system

I do not know about online poker but can it not be that you play with few players against bots? If so that could explain the always same names

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Butterbrezel
Elite

Can you trust any site anymore?

6th Apr. 2023, at 09:12 am CEST#3
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Hi Govi,

of course you can never know 100%. Trustpilot reviews should not be used in your assessment
because mostly only frustrated people write there.

Especially if the situation you describe occurred with several providers,
it is rather the natural Variance of the Poker game.

You wrote that you "magically" won some hands.
Were there any hits on the river that secured you the win?
I'm sure of it, right?

You remember the bad beats more and more emotionally than the wins.

Especially if your opponent changes his style of play, it's possible that he has seen through your game and can estimate how he can upset you.

Go down 1-2 days, go through your game again and then check the facts again in a calm, non-emotional moment.
Then you will certainly be able to assess the gameplay better.

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Anonym

Can you trust any site anymore?

6th Apr. 2023, at 01:44 pm CEST#4
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Govi420 wrote on 06.04.2023 at 08:04: Hi, can online Poker providers still be trusted at all? Are there still reputable providers?
About my experience I have tried online poker on 3 different sites. At first it is just like in the online casino you win something, and then it is taken. I have magically won some hands and me at the 1st Provider directly from 100$ 1000$ win fetched this I have lost in 2 almost sure hands again the 5th card gives each time something better than my hand. Then I looked at the ratings on Trustpilot, and this phenomenon on the 5th card seems to be common. I then deposited something and you just could not win as soon as you are willing to take a Risk everything is taken away.
Then I have tested 2 more providers one wins at first again a few $ and then someone wins with completely bad cards on the river.
I have lost my confidence never goes that to right things.

Things that I have noticed in particular:
It's always the same players no matter what time. Suddenly the style of play of the opponent is different and it is pushed to raise and go all in until the 4th card it always looks like you win and the 5th makes every time the other the winner. Strong hands on my side are folded in milliseconds I have never been able to play an AA as if the others see them.

What do you think about this? Is it imagination through frustration?

Well, pokerstars has in the past again and again uncovered major fraud attempts on their site. Often the victims have also received compensation. Whether this is still the case today, and how it looks on other sites, I can not tell you much.


And I always play against the same ones, but that's more because we're all addicted. And the "folded in milliseconds" could also apply to me. I only gamble spin and go's with the keyboard and the WASDFCV keys, which stands for check, fold, raise x%. I can imagine that it looks weird on opponents when the actions come as insta as from a bot.

There was also a German who has gambled 2 weeks every day 12h 50 tables simultaneously for a challenge. From 100 to 10000$ in 2 weeks. He won the challenge and the sidebets on it.
A lot of people reported to stars that he was a bot, because it seemed strange to them. So it is not always so easy to recognize.

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T0uchTheSky
Elite

Can you trust any site anymore?

6th Apr. 2023, at 02:55 pm CEST#5
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You have found a goldmine, register, win and register again somewhere else. Of course, this also applies to casinos, soon everyone will be a millionaire...

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david84
Amateur

Can you trust any site anymore?

6th Apr. 2023, at 03:17 pm CEST#6
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you can't prove if it's manipulated or not but, be aware that gambling can only work like this because the player loses more than he wins in the long run.

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Govi420

Can you trust any site anymore?

7th Apr. 2023, at 05:14 am CEST#7
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Wutmaennchen wrote on 04/06/2023 at 09:12: Hi Govi,

you can never know 100% of course. Trustpilot ratings should not be used for your assessment
but do not consult them, because mostly only frustrated people write there.

Especially if the situation you describe occurred with several providers,
it is rather the natural Variance of the Poker game.

You wrote that you "magically" won some hands.
Were there any hits on the river that secured you the win?
I'm sure of it, right?

You remember the bad beats more and more emotionally than the wins.

Especially if your opponent changes his style of play, it could be that he has seen through your game and can estimate how he can upset you.

Go down 1-2 days, go through your game again and then check the facts again in a calm, non-emotional moment.
Then you will certainly be able to assess the gameplay better.




It's just really funny how some hands are played. The guy opposite has 88 on the hand I have A K flop comes 6 K A I go 600 $ all in he calls and on the river comes the 8. Can everyone say what he wants of course there is the possibility that he just Risk and end up lucky but I can not believe that someone so much with n 8 pair calls when an A is lying.

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hustlehoff
Expert

Can you trust any site anymore?

7th Apr. 2023, at 09:12 am CEST#8
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Govi420 wrote on 04/07/2023 at 05:14 PM:





It's just really funny how some hands are played. The opposite has 88 on the hand I have A K flop comes 6 K A I go $ 600 all in he calls and on the river comes the 8. Can everyone say what he wants of course there is the possibility that he just risked and in the end has luck but I can not believe that someone so much with ner 8 pair calls when an A is lying.

600$ Allin have a 60k balance ? XD

Btw this can have many reasons.

Opponent erases itself.

Opponent knows you don't have the necessary bankroll for 600$ allin. To call something like that you would have to have 100 or more 600$ stacks, at least 60k $ +, so he calls you every time until your money is gone.

And much more. Those who play such limits all have Poker trackers and a huge database, they see immediately when you play above your bankroll and all your stats unless you are "new" which is unlikely.

And yes poker is a Variance game, play Pot Limit Omaha or PLO 5 Card Omaha. Then you know what variance means

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xorbit2033
Experienced

Can you trust any site anymore?

23rd Apr. 2023, at 11:40 am CEST#9
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Govi420 wrote on 04/07/2023 at 05:14 PM:





It's just really funny how some hands are played. The opposite has 88 on the hand I have A K flop comes 6 K A I go $ 600 all in he calls and on the river comes the 8. Can everyone say what he wants of course there is the possibility that he just risked and in the end has luck but I can not believe that someone so much with ner 8 pair calls when an A lies.

You did nothing wrong in this situation. Maybe watch the opponent before (read). Take notes, might be a fish or a madman. But it is due to so much more.

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Bluff
Expert

Can you trust any site anymore?

23rd Apr. 2023, at 04:52 pm CEST#10
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What you describe is called gambling. Am myself longer Poker player but that on the 5th card comes the card where you lose can just happen

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garfield68
Elite

Can you trust any site anymore?

23rd Apr. 2023, at 06:33 pm CEST#11
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happens even more often than you think,have also lost so often on the river....

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