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Off topic & small talk: Why is it cheaper than water (Page 3)

Topic created on 10th Oct. 2022 | Page: 3 of 4 | Answers: 37 | Views: 5,077
Stromberg
Legend

frapi07 wrote on 10/10/2022 at 17:47

The state doesn't care as long as it can collect tax from it. Is with the cigarettes no different. Can you buy in supermarkets and is in my opinion just as bad as alcohol.

Unfortunately, the turnover in the supermarkets is higher and they know that, which is why such liquid stores as in the States will not give us.

In the restaurants etc. you can also ask for tap water. Costs nothing and is harmless in DE depending on the region. Find there the prices are exaggerated anyway. Would never pay for the bottle of San Pellegrino 2 € or more.

The price is one thing, the senselessness of transporting water over 100 kilometers is another. Am really not too committed environmentalist, but such bullshit can be without effort times simply let🤦♂️

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Falko
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Max_Bet wrote on 10/10/2022 at 15:48: Beer is way too cheap. There should be no beer/alcohol sold in supermarkets in general, but in specialty stores where there is nothing else

It is incomprehensible that alcohol is treated like a food, although every year thousands die & fall ill from the consequences of alcohol consumption.

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It doesn't have to be that strict, because then I wouldn't get my tobacco in the supermarket anymore either, if special stores were set up for consumer products that are harmful.

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Max_Bet
Expert
Falko wrote on 10/10/2022 at 23:03

It doesn't have to be that strict, because then I wouldn't get my tobacco in the supermarket anymore either, if special stores were set up for consumer products that are harmful.

Right. But what would be so bad about that?

In the sense of youth protection and also to better protect "dry" addicts, special stores would already make sense...

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Frankey
Experienced
Alcohol is far too cheap in Germany. It is regarded more as a custom or cultural asset than as a drug. For years, the evil canabis and the equally evil gambling are discussed, but no one seems to be interested in the damage alcohol causes. Compared to other drugs, alcohol is at the top of every list. Traffic accidents caused by drug use?, domestic violence?, costs for health care, justice, etc....... Due to inflation and the maniac from the Volga, even my favorite salt sticks have become 180% more expensive since January. Booze on the other hand has stayed more or less the same. So I can still drink myself to death for 20-25€. But if you don't make it more expensive, alcohol should be less visible

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Langhans_innen
Expert
Frankey wrote on 15.10.2022 at 10:52: Alcohol is far too cheap in Germany. It is seen more as a custom or cultural asset and not as a drug. It is discussed for years about the evil canabis and the just as evil gambling, but what harm alcohol causes nobody seems to care. Compared to other drugs, alcohol is at the top of every list. Traffic accidents caused by drug use?, domestic violence?, costs for health care, justice, etc....... Due to inflation and the maniac from the Volga, even my favorite salt sticks have become 180% more expensive since January. Booze on the other hand has stayed more or less the same. So I can still drink myself to death for 20-25€. If you don't make it more expensive alcohol should be less visible though

my Sixpack-Plörre of Penny, Aldi, Lidl in the plastic bottle (tastes me but) is from 0.29€ (1/2) liter to 0.40€ high. So about 33%. Same drink in the can from 0,29€ to 0,49€. So about 66%. More or less remained the same, so comes only conditionally. Cheers

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Frankey
Experienced

Langhans wrote on 15.10.2022 at 14:49
my Sixpack-Plörre from Penny,Aldi,Lidl in the plastic bottle (tastes me but) is from 0,29€ (1/2) liter to 0,40€ high. So about 33%. Same drink in the can from 0,29€ to 0,49€. So about 66%. More or less remained the same, so comes only conditionally. Cheers


Okay, alcohol has gone up a bit but compare that to other foods. 500g pasta from .035€ to 0.89€ . That is 150%. And whether that is now cheap or expensive Plörre plays no role. It can not be that the drug that causes the most damage in almost every area of society as harmless downplayed while 10 years on a gambling contract rumgewerkelt is to protect gamblers from gambling addiction. If alcohol were more expensive and more difficult to acquire, perhaps here in Cologne all those who come to the carnival would make it to 11.11Uhr and not already at 9.30Uhr as alcohol corpses lying around in the street.

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Falko
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Frankey wrote on 10/15/2022 at 5:48pm:Okay, alcohol has gone up a bit but compare that to other foods. 500g pasta from .035€ to 0.89€ . That's 150%

Or a piece of butter, which now costs almost 4 euros at my supermarket. 1 year ago I got the for 1.59 - 1.79

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Langhans_innen
Expert
Frankey wrote on 10/15/2022 at 5:48 pm


Okay, alcohol has gone up a bit but compare that to other foods. 500g pasta from .035€ to 0.89€ . That's 150%. And whether that is now cheap or expensive Plörre plays no role. It can not be that the drug that causes the most damage in almost every area of society as harmless downplayed while 10 years on a gambling contract rumgewerkelt is to protect gamblers from gambling addiction. If alcohol were more expensive and more difficult to acquire, perhaps all those who come to the carnival here in Cologne would make it to 11.11Uhr and not already at 9.30Uhr as alcohol corpses lying around in the street.

You're right - whether it's cheap liquor or a supposed brand product doesn't matter. The price increase has hit all products. The only thing that counts is the percentage. Gamblers should have that ready at a moment's notice, otherwise it won't work with a halfway functioning Risk management I always think to myself - and that applies to just about every area: live and let live. What bothers you about liquor corpses at carnival at half past nine in the morning, I can't estimate. There would be the same number of them if everything cost twice as much. In this country, we spend money on so much shit that we don't really have anymore, which is why the billions spent on aftercare for alcohol-related injuries don't really matter. I don't begrudge this state any additional tax revenue on alcohol like in Scandinavia, etc. I'm happy for every product that is still halfway affordable. Zocken us enough. 20 fags 7€...they are no longer tight. Refueling the same game. With 5.3% amusement tax it goes directly further in the text. They should rather legalize drugs: there they could earn on it with, but would do in any case times what meaningful. I don't take any, but the step would definitely counteract the misery and above all: make it more difficult for criminal structures to earn money. Would then certainly still nen cheaper street market, but hefty sales would certainly fall away.

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R3hab
Elite

Langhans wrote on 15.10.2022 at 18:07
You're right about that - whether it's cheap slop or a supposed brand name product, it doesn't matter. The price increase has caught all products. Only the percentage counts. Gamblers should have that ready at a moment's notice, otherwise it won't work with a halfway functioning Risk management I always think to myself - and that applies to just about every area: live and let live. What bothers you now about liquor corpses at carnival at half past nine in the morning, I can't estimate. There would be the same number of them if everything cost twice as much. In this country, we spend money on so much shit that we don't really have anymore, which is why the billions spent on aftercare for alcohol-related injuries don't really matter. I don't begrudge this state any additional tax revenue on alcohol like in Scandinavia, etc. I'm happy for every product that is still halfway affordable. Zocken us enough. 20 fags 7€...they are no longer tight. Refueling the same game. With 5.3% amusement tax it goes directly further in the text. They should rather legalize drugs: there they could earn on it with, but would do in any case times what meaningful. I don't take any, but the step would definitely counteract the misery and above all: make it more difficult for criminal structures to earn money. Would then certainly still nen cheaper street market, but hefty sales would certainly fall away.

That by legalize drugs less criminals or dealers are on the road is not quite true, then just other drugs are sold. THC they should not legalize but rather decriminalize

So that the police can concentrate on the heavy drugs. You see in Holland how many accidents happen only because of THC in NL, that will do the people certainly not good, that only helps the state to collect more tax money and the dealers where THC sell then turn to coca or chemistry witness, they already know how it goes on.

Again on the subject of alk, my therapy has begun and there are many because of alcohol here, many were already countless times in a detox + long-term therapy
This is terrible for these people, they are suffering they also need a tool to protect themselves against it. We now have oasis which is a great tool to protect themselves. Why it doesn't exist for alcoholics, I really can't understand and I find that totally disgusting from our state that dry alcoholics don't get the support they actually need

If someone was 10 times in a detoxification and has made 4 long-term therapies, it is only sad for these people that they drink again and again because it is at Aldi and co at the checkout! Something has to happen
That is so bad. And it is very many women affected what has also shocked me a little

This system what runs there with the alcohol must be but very quickly different
Sorry but have zero understanding for it, it does not have to be more expensive but some kind of control for those who want to stay dry is very important. Something like oasis just for alk where you have e.g. in the ID nen sign where you then recognizes okay here is a dry alcoholic who then gets nothing more and kiosks should only be allowed to sell beer and nothing hard

This is a sensitive issue and there are many people affected by it

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Frankey
Experienced

Peter8 wrote on 10/16/2022 at 10:59 AM

That by legalizing drugs less criminals or dealers are on the road is not quite true, then just other drugs are sold. THC they should not legalize but rather decriminalize

So that the police can concentrate on the heavy drugs. You can see in Holland how many accidents happen only because of THC in NL, that will do the people certainly not good, that only helps the state to collect more tax money and the dealers where THC sell then turn to coca or chemistry witness, they already know how it goes on.

Again on the subject of alk, my therapy has begun and there are many because of alcohol here, many were already countless times in a detox + long-term therapy
This is terrible for these people, they are suffering they also need a tool to protect themselves against it. We now have oasis which is a great tool to protect themselves. Why it doesn't exist for alcoholics, I really can't understand and I think it's totally disgusting of our state that dry alcoholics don't get the support they need

If someone was 10 times in a detoxification and has made 4 long-term therapies, it is only sad for these people that they drink again and again because it is at Aldi and co at the checkout! Something has to happen
That is so bad. And it is very many women affected what has also shocked me a little

This system what runs there with the alcohol must be but very quickly different
Sorry but have zero understanding for it, it does not have to be more expensive but some kind of control for those who want to stay dry is very important. Something like oasis just for alk where you have e.g. in the ID nen sign where you then recognizes okay here is a dry alcoholic who then gets nothing more and kiosks should only be allowed to sell beer and nothing hard

This is a delicate issue and many people are affected by it

I agree with you. I myself am not affected but I have been working in homeless aid for almost 20 years and have accompanied people in therapy. The advertisement shows only the beautiful sides which alcohol has. Similar to the cigarette packets, alcohol advertising should also show the bad sides. The bruises, the accident wrecks and so on. And alcohol should not be visible everywhere. That would certainly help those affected. After all, you have to fight temptation for the rest of your life. I wish you much success with therapy . Stay stable 😉👍

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