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Off topic & small talk: The old Turk (Page 2)

Topic created on 30th Jan. 2018 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 22 | Views: 5,362
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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 01:09 pm CET#11
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what strikes me so, that the regular players win almost nothing more and only people who have either never been seen in the hall or come at the highest once a month, bring in the big wins with minimal stakes. There is nothing more with coincidence g*

And since the owner of the hall plays there himself and at the Bally always clears the jackpots I doubt whether that runs legally in there at all. But I also don't know where you can or should report such a dubious hall

And what I am still so interested: What happens if I win something bigger, but the operator then accuses me of having manipulated and does not pay me the win? Purely theoretically, has not happened to me so far.

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 01:39 pm CET#12
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Dipson wrote on 30.01.2018 at 13:09: what strikes me so that the regular players win almost nothing more and only people who have either never been seen in the hall or come at most once a month, with minimal play the big wins. There is nothing more with coincidence g*

It can appear to you also only in such a way, since one has as players often a distorted perception. But in German gaming houses there is basically the highest Risk of manipulation. Audits are rarely carried out and operators who use savings boards often cheat the German treasury and / or the players for years. Most of the time, this only comes out by chance, and most of the time, audits are only conducted if the tax office suspects that it is losing tax money.

And since the owner of the hall plays there himself and at the Bally always clears the jackpots I doubt whether that runs legally in there at all. But I also don't know where to report such a dubious hall.

You can send an anonymous letter to the public order office of your city. If you want to cause an audit with the highest possible probability, then you should have information that the operator of the gaming hall is evading taxes by means of manipulated devices - then also write to the responsible tax office. If only gamblers are affected, there is usually no reaction. The operators are also usually caught when a disgruntled ex-employee or ex-wife wants to p**s on the operator's leg.

I used to complain about an arcade when I was gambling and nothing was checked. I also complained at the time about a pub whose landlord let minors play on slot machines. The regulatory office showed up and the landlord stopped allowing minors to play on his machines.

And what else interests me: What happens if I win something bigger, but the operator then accuses me of having manipulated and does not pay me the win? Purely theoretically, has not happened to me so far.

I have heard that some landlords or kebab shop owners refused to pay out "big" wins and when the player called the police it was claimed that the player had manipulated the machines. However, I do not know how the case turned out. I know the story only from hearsay. One knows one who knows one, etc.

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 05:37 pm CET#13
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Only know the Monarch, he apparently had all the vending machines emptied in the 80s

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 05:40 pm CET#14
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Tropper wrote on 01/30/2018 at 5:37 pm: Only know the Monarch, he apparently had all the vending machines cleaned out in the 80's

In my opinion this is an advertisement the vending machine industry disguised as a documentary. A clever way to get around the advertising ban. The monarch in the video is an unknown actor named Dieter Wendtland.

I don't want to know how many people started to be interested in gambling machines because of this "documentary". And I don't want to know how many of them got addicted. Ask all the grandfathers who today bring through their pensions in the gambling houses, if they know the monarch ...

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 05:46 pm CET#15
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In the old forum, the opinions at the time were also very different. I have no idea ^^

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 05:53 pm CET#16
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Tropper wrote on 30/01/2018 at 17:46: In the old forum, the opinions at the time were also very different. I have no idea ^^

So in my estimation this is 99% a fake doc commissioned by the vending industry. Otherwise the monarch would just be a complete moron. Who would please publicly disclose how he makes a lot of money with a vending machine trick? So that this loophole is then closed by the manufacturers and his source of income is gone? Simply makes no sense!

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 05:56 pm CET#17
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As far as I know, the machines were completely mechanical back then, but today they have software on them. Maybe this was the core and he knew when the machines would spit. As far as I remember, he had hired informers who visited various cafes and stores for him and somehow gave him information

@kurz offtopic, can you upload complete sessions here? I sometimes record sessions via obs for fun (records) and ka what to do with it ^^.

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Daniel
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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 06:24 pm CET#18
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Tropper wrote on 01/30/2018 at 17:56: As far as I know the vending machines were completely mechanics back then, today yes software is on it. Maybe this was the core and he knew when the vending machines were going to spit. He had as far as I remember hired informers who visited various cafe and stores for him and somehow gave him information.

Yes, but what good would that do him in announcing his "business" to the general public and the machine manufacturers? It doesn't make sense, because the developers would then counteract and try to counteract and destroy the monarch's business model.

@kurz offtopic, can you upload complete sessions here? I sometimes record sessions via obs for fun (records) and ka what to do with it ^^.

Currently the video upload is not available at the moment. The development has been very difficult - besides all the other developments. But the video upload is as good as finished and will be online soon. And you can also upload long sessions. But we are still discussing internally if we allow all uploads or only videos with a Win factor of at least 75x or 100x stake.

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 06:26 pm CET#19
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yes, of course, that's true again

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The old Turk

30th Jan. 2018, at 06:32 pm CET#20
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Sascha666 wrote on 30/01/2018 at 00:13: I want to tell you a story.

It is about a man in his fifties. He can show up at any time and in any casino.
People who have met him before just call him the "old Turk".
The old Turk always wears an old, worn-out coat, and a brown hat.
He always changes 50€ into jetons or 2€ coins.
No more, no less.
A few minutes after he starts his game, he wins 3-4 figures.
The old Turk never loses, he cannot lose.
He comes, wins and leaves.
He does not eat, does not drink, does not smoke.
Every attempt to talk to him fails, because he only says confused words.
If you follow him to the toilet, he is no longer there.
If you follow him to the exit, he disappears from the face of the earth.
The old Turk is a mystical apparition, and he makes every casino tremble with fear.

Who among you has ever seen the Old Turk?
Does he really exist?!


HA HA HA

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