Off topic & small talk: Temu and Co (Page 3)

gamble1 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 00:16:
Well Temu at least uses similar providers for shipping as Amazon because it is usually handled by DHL or partners abroad right from the start, very few things really still arrive here the old-fashioned way by ship, many things are even already in warehouses in the EU, especially since all this climate Co2 nonsense is mentioned at every corner, but it is completely disregarded what we actually contribute for a tiny part in this big pile of shit called the world with the direct comparison to India or America

The main thing is that we pay attention to everything, pay tax for every crap everything completely overpriced because we want to save the world and the other big countries itch the climate exactly 0.0 % so what use is it if we destroy ourselves if we don't even contribute a quarter of it ? None at all!

Your other argument is just as bad because what does Temu do ? Temu mediates end customers to manufacturers so what happens if we don't buy it ? Right dropshippers buy it and sell the same crap we can buy here for 3€ for 60€ you get more ? No way, I know two people who earn their money with dropshipping and some of them also buy in China for cents and then sell it on Amazon for 40 times as much

No matter how you twist and turn it you can't blame anyone except the companies directly creating such conditions

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Stromberg wrote on 06.08.2024 at 12:46 pm:


Without the customer, the company doesn't exist, of course you can also blame the customer.

Of course, an Adidas shirt for 30€ is not necessarily produced more fairly than another shirt for 5€.

Whether I therefore have to buy junk that is so cheap that a reasonably fair production is impossible... Well, everyone has to know for themselves.
The fact that goods are already in a warehouse in Europe also means that they have to be brought here, I would think.
It's clear that a ship doesn't set sail for every order.
Simply saying I can't change it anyway is just a stupid excuse because you don't feel like it.
If everyone acts a little prudently, especially if you have enough money, which you seem to have, I think you can achieve something.
The restrictions wouldn't even be major and have nothing to do with the miserable green policy.

But well, I'm not a prime example either, but don't tell myself that I don't have the opportunity.

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Patizi wrote on 06.08.2024 at 15:15:

"If everyone" <--- Great idea but won't happen. Just let go and don't try to save the world in your few years. Accept things as they are and live with it. Whether I buy a T-shirt for 3 euros or 60 euros doesn't matter in the end. It's all about how you feel about it. Some people have a guilty conscience when they buy 3 euro T-shirts and others don't because they don't think about it that much. Why should they? At the end of the day, you're just worrying about something that is just the way it is.

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Stromberg wrote on 06.08.2024 at 16:04:

Right won't happen because too many have your attitude.

And mine too, as I said, I'm also a comfortable person.

I just try to avoid the companies that always have to go one better and throw even cheaper shit on the market, to the detriment of the environment, people and, last but not least, health.

Just keep accepting everything as a given, you're welcome, but I don't need advice on how to spend my few years either. 😄

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Donnie wrote on 06.08.2024 at 16:23:

You may be able to afford a 60€ t-shirt, but what about others? Who says that the producers of a € 60 shirt produce under humane conditions? The stuff from the brand manufacturers also comes from Asian countries and is produced cheaply, no one is better than the other. They all have dirt on their hands and are aware of the working conditions of the seamstresses, who are not always of age

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Stromberg wrote on 06.08.2024 at 16:04:


I just try to avoid the companies that always have to go one better, always have to throw even cheaper shit on the market, at the expense of the environment, people and not least health.

Just keep accepting everything as a given, you're welcome, but I don't need advice on how to spend my few years either. 😄

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gamble1 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 00:16:
Well Temu at least uses similar providers for shipping as Amazon because it is usually handled by DHL or partners abroad right from the start, very few things really still arrive here the old-fashioned way by ship, many things are even already in warehouses in the EU, especially since all this climate Co2 nonsense is mentioned at every corner, but it is completely disregarded what we actually contribute for a tiny part in this big pile of shit called the world with the direct comparison to India or America

The main thing is that we pay attention to everything, pay tax for every crap everything completely overpriced because we want to save the world and the other big countries itch the climate exactly 0.0 % so what use is it if we destroy ourselves if we don't even contribute a quarter of it ? None at all!

Your other argument is just as bad because what does Temu do ? Temu mediates end customers to manufacturers so what happens if we don't buy it ? Right dropshippers buy it and sell the same crap we can buy here for 3€ for 60€ you get more ? No way, I know two people who earn their money with dropshipping and some of them also buy in China for cents and then sell it on Amazon for 40 times as much

No matter how you look at it, you can't blame anyone except the companies directly creating these conditions

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Frankey wrote on 06.08.2024 at 19:22:

I agree with you. But I can draw attention to the misery caused by these companies. There are of course alternative cheap stores. Otto, for example. I haven't bought from Amazon for years because you can find a lot of things in classified ads, especially in a big city. Cell phone cases, for example. Otto always has some brands at -50% or so. The only good thing for me on Amazon is their book search. The algorithm is great when it comes to suggestions etc. I don't want to save the world. I'm 46 and it doesn't affect me anymore. Great uncle for a year. And I want the generation to experience a lot of things the way I did. in 1993 we had our first vacation abroad. So not just West Germany, but camping in Italy. In Ascona, on Lake Maggiore. Today the lake is almost dry. We also spent a few days in Switzerland. I was totally amazed by the Matterhorn. The snow and the glaciers everywhere. Last week, an episode of Joko Klas um die Welt from 2019 played there. I was horrified. All I have left is gray rock and few glaciers. When I think of Canada, I see green forests, snow and a moose standing by the lake. I'm not standing in front of a thousand-kilometre column of fire that is so hot it has developed its own climate. 200,000 Canadians have become climate refugees as a result, and now firefighters, scientists, authorities, etc. are at a loss as to how to fight fires like those in Australia, California or Canada because these fires have given themselves an upgrade. Of course the world is a big pile of sh... and I like to draw attention to some of these piles. So that people come down and stop complaining about how bad things are for us. We're doing so badly here in the land of the outside world? Shelves full, health Insurance, car, even 2nd class. Why don't you fly to Benin or Somalia? You can see people starving to death there. with no way out They're in a really bad way.

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Justin wrote on 06.08.2024 at 23:52: It's almost amusing how naive some people are here.
China has not grown into an economic power with cheap end products, but as a cheap supplier. Anyone who thinks that a USB cable from Samsung is better than one from Temu is wrong.
They are all manufactured in identical factories in China. 80% of what is built into smartphones, TVs or kitchen appliances comes from sweatshops in China.

And then there are those here who think... Hey, but mine has a brand stamp on it and I paid 5 times as much. I don't support such misanthropic companies. Sorry, it really doesn't get much more naive than that.

Just because cheap parts are assembled in Western (or Eastern) countries, in many cases the supplier is still the Chinese sweat store.

Samsung hires tens of thousands of Filipino workers for its mega-factories in Korea, who work 12-hour shifts a day, 6 days a week on the assembly line for $300-400 a month, assembling Chinese components so that the pseudo-humanitarian Westerner doesn't have to buy an "evil" Chinese product.

Until 2019, Samsung produced iPhone displays in China. Now they are produced with cheap labor in Korea. For years, almost all Apple components have been produced in sweat stores in Asia, then assembled in the West and sold at incredibly high prices.

The same applies to sporting goods manufacturers, clothing companies, etc. Nike, H&M, Adidas, Aldi, Lidl and many others have clothes made in sweatshops in Myanmar. The DAILY WAGE there is around €3-4 for 12-hour shifts and 1 day off per month.

Anyone who thinks that they are doing something about child and human abuse just because they buy more expensive products can count themselves lucky in their illusion, it just has little to do with reality.


Fun fact, the Rammstein T-shirts from the fake store in Bangkok for €10 are better quality than the €45 shirts from the original Rammstein merch store on tour.

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R3hab wrote on 07.08.2024 at 01:04: Haha how threads like this always develop 😂
When the time comes, I'll get myself a wooden frame 🤓
And become a hero who saves the world

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Justin wrote on 06.08.2024 at 23:52: It's almost amusing how naive some people are here.
China has not grown into an economic power with cheap end products, but as a cheap supplier. Anyone who thinks that a USB cable from Samsung is better than one from Temu is wrong.
They are all manufactured in identical factories in China. 80% of what is built into smartphones, TVs or kitchen appliances comes from sweatshops in China.

And then there are those here who think... Hey, but mine has a brand stamp on it and I paid 5 times as much. I don't support such misanthropic companies. Sorry, it really doesn't get much more naive than that.

Just because cheap parts are assembled in Western (or Eastern) countries, in many cases the supplier is still the Chinese sweat store.

Samsung hires tens of thousands of Filipino workers for its mega-factories in Korea, who work 12-hour shifts a day, 6 days a week on the assembly line for $300-400 a month, assembling Chinese components so that the pseudo-humanitarian Westerner doesn't have to buy an "evil" Chinese product.

Until 2019, Samsung produced iPhone displays in China. Now they are produced with cheap labor in Korea and delivered to Chinese factories and Korea. For years, almost all Apple components have been produced in sweat stores in Asia, then assembled in the West and sold at incredibly high prices.

The same applies to sporting goods manufacturers, clothing companies, etc. Nike, H&M, Adidas, Aldi, Lidl and many others have clothes made in sweatshops in Myanmar. The DAILY WAGE there is around €3-4 for 12-hour shifts and 1 day off per month.

Anyone who thinks that they are doing something about child and human abuse just because they buy more expensive products can count themselves lucky in their illusion, it just has little to do with reality.


Fun fact, the Rammstein T-shirts from the fake store in Bangkok for €10 are better quality than the €45 shirts from the original Rammstein merch store on tour.

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