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7th Sep. 2018, at 02:39 pm CEST#1
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Right away, I type with mobile... Therefore forgive me typos
So now to my concern. When I signed up here some time ago, I was under the assumption that this site was created to offer players reputable casinos and also to stand up for the rights of players (and use). I no longer notice anything of that here..nothing at all. On the contrary.
Latest example . AKA complains that his payouts are really dragged out. Daniel then wrote, "he has contacted there and now it goes faster for Gamblerjoe members..now you're all good or? " Huh??? Daniel your serious ???
Can me well remember times, where you have because of such machinations here in the forum really opened a barrel. And now such sayings? What about the other players, it is quite ok that they are exposed to such machinations of such a dirty casino? And such a casino is listed here and called reputable?
Then the complaints are here more and more, the game behavior has changed significantly since the omission of Novoline and Merkur,... I thought there is an article. Or that also times the thing is pursued, to what extent the MGA still checks the casinos? For many, including me, this is all very strange. And my I'm not a frustrated player who has lost a lot of money, I'm still well in the plus. And nevertheless I have the feeling, here it goes no more with right things to... Of the last 22 days it ran with me 1.5 days well... The rest all dead.. Except today... Today is the day where I feel 1000 times 2 Scatter to see, but never a third. Bit of variety must be ma, with the big cheat on the players...
What does gj have to do with it? First of all nothing. But again.. I thought this was about educating players, protecting them and standing up for their rights. Nothing there.. Pustekuchen . On the subject of how funny it all goes now, absolute silence. On the contrary. In addition, recently the statement of Matthias in an article if a slot does not run... Continue to Deposit and deposit until it runs (slot must first was run, so his statement) ... When I read that, I was speechless ... I hope there were not still young and naive players who have also tried...
I think it's a shame how this has developed here ... It is only in favor of the casinos of the MGA and the slot manufacturers written here and argued... That is to say the least to vomit..
So that had to go out... This has accumulated over weeks / months ...
I hope here again a different direction is taken and especially there are no more casinos included here, which work with such crap methods..
I have finished..
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7th Sep. 2018, at 03:41 pm CEST#2
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It is definitely noticeable how negative the Online Casinos have been developing for 1 - 1.5 years.bonuses that are unplayable, opaque and arbitrary terms and conditions and the "search" for the hair in the soup when it comes to payouts.even the slots have long, felt no more 92-96% RTP.it seems almost as if the "Wild West" has broken out - it rules the right of the strongest.Completely unimpressed by all this, the control bodies such as "MGA" etc only fulfill a function that consists in their mere existence.And unfortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately seems to join GJ there.I do not understand it - and probably this thread, like many others, remains uncommented - or it is said through the flower :" you do not have to participate here".menno...... .
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7th Sep. 2018, at 03:57 pm CEST#3
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In principle, I think it is difficult to run such a forum for Online Casinos in a fair and unbiased way. On the one hand, of course, you feel sorry for the players here, who inform about various abuses every day - on the other hand, you advertise them in the header. I don't know how you can find the correct Concession, because the casino lobby lures you with a lot of Euros and Dollars.
I could imagine that one could lead such a forum as an association about donations halfway independently. But over advertisement for on-line Casinos is that in my opinion simply not possible. The idea itself is not bad, but also not new. The implementation, however, I think under such auspices not successful. But I don't want to talk everything down, because in the end we are all free people who can decide for themselves whether they want to gamble or not. Everyone knows the terrible risks and side effects and is responsible for themselves in the end!
Ronny1982 wrote on 07.09.2018 at 14:39 clock: So now to my concern... When I signed up here some time ago, I was under the assumption this site was created to offer players reputable casinos and also to stand up for the rights of players (and use). I no longer notice anything of that here..nothing at all. On the contrary.
This platform was created so that German-speaking players have the opportunity to rate Online Casinos uncensored. It was created so that the users can exchange uncensored about gambling in a forum. To increase the entertainment value of the site, we have enabled users to upload and share winning videos and winning pictures. This is the basic concept of GambleJoe. Of course, we make sure that we only list casinos that meet certain minimum standards, such as a European gambling license, and that no major scandals have been made known to the listed casino before the listing.
If an online casino constantly delays payouts or the support is poor (for whatever reason), then this will be reflected in the ratings over the short or long term and players can then form an opinion and decide not to play there.
It was also important to me to provide clarification, which is why there is the advice section on GambleJoe. The advice and education part is also linked (except here in the forum) on virtually all pages and the information there is unadorned.
I thought at the time that it is important to have such a clarification. If I had had this education when I started playing, I probably wouldn't have become a player or I would have become a responsible player.
The problem is that somehow far too few take the education, don't understand it or whatever. The result is ratings like "I lost at Casino XY, scam!" or on the other hand "I won at Casino XY, awesome casino!". Are these ratings that can help other players to make a decision? Rather not, because wins and losses are something personal and have nothing to do with the casino. This has only the consequence that actually bad casinos may come off too well and good casinos too bad.
Latest example. AKA complains that his payouts are really dragged out. Daniel then wrote, "he has contacted there and now it goes faster for Gamblerjoe members..now you're all good or? " Huh??? Daniel your serious ???
Can me well remember times, where you have because of such machinations here in the forum really opened a barrel. And now such sayings? What about the other players, it is quite ok that they are exposed to such machinations of such a dirty casino? And such a casino is listed here and called reputable?
Aka (is a player of thousands) has complained and we have been in contact with the casino. The casino replied that they are currently short of staff and they are sorry and will take care of it immediately
We were also assured that in the future players coming from GambleJoe will be prioritized. This does not mean that there will be no more problems. It also does not mean that the casino is now necessarily bad for all other players. Once a casino is slow in making a payout, it doesn't always have to be on purpose. Even at Videoslots I have had to wait 3 days for my payout (and that was not the 50K, but a smaller amount) and that although it was otherwise always transferred a few hours later. In every company (there are only people working in OCs) there are times (many employees are sick or on vacation) where not everything is running Tip-top.
This sucks and Aka has every right to post his experiences negatively in the reviews. If this remains an isolated case and everything goes well for the majority of players, then the casino remains listed above. If the casino is bad - or comparatively worse than other casinos - then it will fall in the rankings sooner or later.
r more and more that the game behavior has changed significantly since the omission of Novoline and Merkur... I thought there is an article. Or that even times the matter is pursued, to what extent the MGA still checks the casinos? For many, including me, this is all very strange. And my I'm not a frustrated player who has lost a lot of money, I'm still well in the plus. And nevertheless I have the feeling, here it goes no more with right things to... Of the last 22 days it ran with me 1.5 days well... The rest all dead.. Except today... Today is the day where I feel 1000 times 2 Scatter to see, but never a third. Bit of variety must be ma, with the big cheat on the players...
Nothing has changed in the gameplay. Why should something change in the game behavior, because Novomatic and Merkur are gone? If there was Manipulation, then it would be more likely that the other game manufacturers would have to pay out more wins in the short or medium term, in order to use the opportunity to draw the players to their side, as long as the competition is gone.
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7th Sep. 2018, at 06:47 pm CEST#5
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The problem that casinos have is their lack of credibility and transparency.
I have been denouncing this here for some time now.
There is hardly a casino that plays with open cards, and that makes them susceptible to speculation
susceptible to speculation.
And at the top of the list is the reason why there is never a shortage of staff when it comes to deposits
but there is a shortage of staff when it comes to payouts. The example was just given. The gamblers pay in enough
enough. And if I have a shortage of staff, I can still order the payouts
Then I don't have to look for the hair in the soup, but simply pay out,
and it will go faster!
Or if a Daniel interferes, why does it go faster?
Is the staff backlog reduced then? No, the payment is only brought forward,
but the basic problem remains, if it is true.
The reverse question is, why do they have staff shortages?
And why should the player suffer?
Instead of saying that the upper left corner of the ID card is missing, but everything else fits, we pay out, that's exactly what they don't do
pay out, that's exactly what they don't do. And that is personnel-intensive.
And if I don't have enough staff, then I'm doing the wrong thing in terms of personnel,
and I should put a stop to it as soon as possible. But that sounds like an excuse to me anyway.
And on the other topic, why should casinos cheat, the answer is still
quite simple. It is the normal human greed for more! Why does Warren Buffett
still working? Where does he want to go with all his billions? No matter, one always wants more
I don't know any billionaire who doesn't work more.
And the first thing I would look at as a casino operator would be opaque T&Cs as well as
Bonus rules, and the 2nd would be how can I turn on the AQ. Is it technically possible without the
Game manufacturers possible? If not, you can get in touch with them. Also these
do not get the neck of the money full! Everyone is susceptible to money, only the amount must be right!
Verifications in the length pull, so that the people gamble away again their money. Divide the player into
Divide them into categories. CAT A: assigns a payout, but always cancels, and gambles it all away again.
CAT C: instructs a Deposit, does not cancel it despite waiting for days! Note: other methods
verify.
And Daniel, why are there and were there the whole cartels, where always the largest manufacturers of the most different
Industries were involved? Did they need it? Haven't they earned enough already?
Yes they have, but they always want more. And that's exactly the motive for casinos.
And if some were already convicted of money laundering, the MGA is strangely lax in its control, and there is corruption
and there is corruption right up to the political level, further criminal machinations are only a stone's throw away....
But with the normal player is partly checked because of the money laundering law with Kleinstauszahlungen
already ünerprüft. This is ridiculous and a pretext for a joke.
There's no need to explain that anymore, is there?
The common sense says one nevertheless already that there much in the argen lies, and much we do not get at all
not with!
They will try everything possible in their power to increase the profit. And there everything is thematized, there
nothing is taboo. Neither ne RTP, which eh keienr can check, nor whether the slots really bring random images,
or whether the swamp goes much deeper in the direction of game manufacturers.
Actually, only that is the question!
And for these developments GJ can in principle nothing against it!
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7th Sep. 2018, at 07:21 pm CEST#6
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Daniel wrote on 07/09/2018 at 16:00
Nothing has changed in the gaming behavior. Why would anything change in gaming behavior because Novomatic and Merkur are gone? If there was Manipulation, then it would be more likely that the other game manufacturers would have to pay out rather more wins in the short or medium term to take advantage of the opportunity to pull the players to their side as long as the competition is gone.
So Daniel. You think nothing has changed in the months of playing? Really nothing at all? You must have a different perception than many others here. And I have been keeping records since I started playing. I know what kind of wins I could pay out and with what kind of deposits they were made. Gambling became a different thing in January and since March it has increased extremely. It is no longer feasible for me to play my way up, so as soon as I have won something, I pay out immediately
On the other hand..the casino is short of staff? Ahja...always surprising that there are NEVER problems with deposits and the casinos have their money in no time, with the payouts countless reasons are advanced, why it takes grad times laaaange. And even if it were so, the problem is there...The wins there always remain cancelable and can not be secured. That's just method what they do there..point!
Why do you go with your criticism that we players express here against the casinos, even critical with the casinos in court, but always argue for the? That is exactly what I no longer understand. Sorry....
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7th Sep. 2018, at 07:24 pm CEST#7
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skri....For me, the MGA is developing more and more into a "sham regulator". The English Glücksspielkomesion is yes in the last time against Casinos proceeded, which had abnormal clauses in the AGB. On the part of the MGA happens there NIX. And if it would say, "The player can not get his winnings paid out because he has an account with the savings bank".... Then the MGA would still argue..."The terms and conditions are binding", instead of going against it. And exactly that is so slowly no longer comprehensible.
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That's the way it is. Lasche controls, and refer in a complaint case always to the terms and conditions of the
respective casino, even if they are so ridiculous, and only there to not have to pay off
to have to.
From such an "independent" authority I expect that with accumulation of complaints times something more exactly
is looked at, and as a final consequence, the license is withdrawn.
But since this is not so, I assume a "cooperation" of the MGA and the casinos.
After all, these licenses cost quite a bit, and you do not dig your own clientele
away......
I don't know at best what these are for.
Only in Verification difficulties and delays in the payout they help a little.
They can't do anything else if the case is crystal clear.
But if after weeks the decision comes, the casino has achieved exactly what it wanted to
what it wanted - to delay!
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7th Sep. 2018, at 07:48 pm CEST#9
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stkrie wrote on 07/09/2018 at 19:46: That's how it is. Lasche controls, and always refer in a complaint case to the terms and conditions of the
respective casino, even if they are still so ridiculous, and only there to not pay out
to have to.
From such an "independent" authority I expect that with accumulation of complaints times something more exact
is looked at, and as a final consequence, the license is withdrawn.
But since this is not so, I assume a "cooperation" of the MGA and the casinos.
After all, these licenses cost quite a bit, and you do not dig your own clientele
away......
The problem is that we have to work with what's there. If there is only shit, then I have to work with the turds that stink the least. If it were up to me, then all casinos would be blacklisted here that only have the 5€ maxbetrule. But if 95% of all casinos have the 5€-Maxbetrule now, then there would be only 2 - 3 casinos here.
In addition, I have the MGA at no point praised for their work and I am of the same opinion as you that the casinos should design their terms and conditions as far as possible customer-oriented. However, I have no influence on this and unfortunately I can not influence it. If I could, believe me, I would immediately abolish the €5 maxbetrule today. I would introduce that Online Casinos could not deny wins due to the violation of bonus terms. If a casino wants to offer Bonuses, then the casino must also be technically capable (such as Videoslots or SlotsMillion ) to implement the rules technically so that players can not violate them in the first place.
@stkrie I have heard you so far only grumble. Can you send me a list of online casinos which are top in your opinion or is there no single casino which is good or at least acceptable in your opinion? Something like that would be really helpful (I'm serious).
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So now to my concern. When I signed up here some time ago, I was under the assumption that this site was created to offer players reputable casinos and also to stand up for the rights of players (and use). I no longer notice anything of that here..nothing at all. On the contrary.
Latest example . AKA complains that his payouts are really dragged out. Daniel then wrote, "he has contacted there and now it goes faster for Gamblerjoe members..now you're all good or? " Huh??? Daniel your serious ???
Can me well remember times, where you have because of such machinations here in the forum really opened a barrel. And now such sayings? What about the other players, it is quite ok that they are exposed to such machinations of such a dirty casino? And such a casino is listed here and called reputable?
Then the complaints are here more and more, the game behavior has changed significantly since the omission of Novoline and Merkur,... I thought there is an article. Or that also times the thing is pursued, to what extent the MGA still checks the casinos? For many, including me, this is all very strange. And my I'm not a frustrated player who has lost a lot of money, I'm still well in the plus. And nevertheless I have the feeling, here it goes no more with right things to... Of the last 22 days it ran with me 1.5 days well... The rest all dead.. Except today... Today is the day where I feel 1000 times 2 Scatter to see, but never a third. Bit of variety must be ma, with the big cheat on the players...
What does gj have to do with it? First of all nothing. But again.. I thought this was about educating players, protecting them and standing up for their rights. Nothing there.. Pustekuchen . On the subject of how funny it all goes now, absolute silence. On the contrary. In addition, recently the statement of Matthias in an article if a slot does not run... Continue to Deposit and deposit until it runs (slot must first was run, so his statement) ... When I read that, I was speechless ... I hope there were not still young and naive players who have also tried...
I think it's a shame how this has developed here ... It is only in favor of the casinos of the MGA and the slot manufacturers written here and argued... That is to say the least to vomit..
So that had to go out... This has accumulated over weeks / months ...
I hope here again a different direction is taken and especially there are no more casinos included here, which work with such crap methods..
I have finished..
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I could imagine that one could lead such a forum as an association about donations halfway independently. But over advertisement for on-line Casinos is that in my opinion simply not possible. The idea itself is not bad, but also not new. The implementation, however, I think under such auspices not successful. But I don't want to talk everything down, because in the end we are all free people who can decide for themselves whether they want to gamble or not. Everyone knows the terrible risks and side effects and is responsible for themselves in the end!
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This platform was created so that German-speaking players have the opportunity to rate Online Casinos uncensored. It was created so that the users can exchange uncensored about gambling in a forum. To increase the entertainment value of the site, we have enabled users to upload and share winning videos and winning pictures. This is the basic concept of GambleJoe. Of course, we make sure that we only list casinos that meet certain minimum standards, such as a European gambling license, and that no major scandals have been made known to the listed casino before the listing.
If an online casino constantly delays payouts or the support is poor (for whatever reason), then this will be reflected in the ratings over the short or long term and players can then form an opinion and decide not to play there.
It was also important to me to provide clarification, which is why there is the advice section on GambleJoe. The advice and education part is also linked (except here in the forum) on virtually all pages and the information there is unadorned.
I thought at the time that it is important to have such a clarification. If I had had this education when I started playing, I probably wouldn't have become a player or I would have become a responsible player.
The problem is that somehow far too few take the education, don't understand it or whatever. The result is ratings like "I lost at Casino XY, scam!" or on the other hand "I won at Casino XY, awesome casino!". Are these ratings that can help other players to make a decision? Rather not, because wins and losses are something personal and have nothing to do with the casino. This has only the consequence that actually bad casinos may come off too well and good casinos too bad.
Aka (is a player of thousands) has complained and we have been in contact with the casino. The casino replied that they are currently short of staff and they are sorry and will take care of it immediately
We were also assured that in the future players coming from GambleJoe will be prioritized. This does not mean that there will be no more problems. It also does not mean that the casino is now necessarily bad for all other players. Once a casino is slow in making a payout, it doesn't always have to be on purpose. Even at Videoslots I have had to wait 3 days for my payout (and that was not the 50K, but a smaller amount) and that although it was otherwise always transferred a few hours later. In every company (there are only people working in OCs) there are times (many employees are sick or on vacation) where not everything is running Tip-top.
This sucks and Aka has every right to post his experiences negatively in the reviews. If this remains an isolated case and everything goes well for the majority of players, then the casino remains listed above. If the casino is bad - or comparatively worse than other casinos - then it will fall in the rankings sooner or later.
Nothing has changed in the gameplay. Why should something change in the game behavior, because Novomatic and Merkur are gone? If there was Manipulation, then it would be more likely that the other game manufacturers would have to pay out more wins in the short or medium term, in order to use the opportunity to draw the players to their side, as long as the competition is gone.
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I have been denouncing this here for some time now.
There is hardly a casino that plays with open cards, and that makes them susceptible to speculation
susceptible to speculation.
And at the top of the list is the reason why there is never a shortage of staff when it comes to deposits
but there is a shortage of staff when it comes to payouts. The example was just given. The gamblers pay in enough
enough. And if I have a shortage of staff, I can still order the payouts
Then I don't have to look for the hair in the soup, but simply pay out,
and it will go faster!
Or if a Daniel interferes, why does it go faster?
Is the staff backlog reduced then? No, the payment is only brought forward,
but the basic problem remains, if it is true.
The reverse question is, why do they have staff shortages?
And why should the player suffer?
Instead of saying that the upper left corner of the ID card is missing, but everything else fits, we pay out, that's exactly what they don't do
pay out, that's exactly what they don't do. And that is personnel-intensive.
And if I don't have enough staff, then I'm doing the wrong thing in terms of personnel,
and I should put a stop to it as soon as possible. But that sounds like an excuse to me anyway.
And on the other topic, why should casinos cheat, the answer is still
quite simple. It is the normal human greed for more! Why does Warren Buffett
still working? Where does he want to go with all his billions? No matter, one always wants more
I don't know any billionaire who doesn't work more.
And the first thing I would look at as a casino operator would be opaque T&Cs as well as
Bonus rules, and the 2nd would be how can I turn on the AQ. Is it technically possible without the
Game manufacturers possible? If not, you can get in touch with them. Also these
do not get the neck of the money full! Everyone is susceptible to money, only the amount must be right!
Verifications in the length pull, so that the people gamble away again their money. Divide the player into
Divide them into categories. CAT A: assigns a payout, but always cancels, and gambles it all away again.
CAT C: instructs a Deposit, does not cancel it despite waiting for days! Note: other methods
verify.
And Daniel, why are there and were there the whole cartels, where always the largest manufacturers of the most different
Industries were involved? Did they need it? Haven't they earned enough already?
Yes they have, but they always want more. And that's exactly the motive for casinos.
And if some were already convicted of money laundering, the MGA is strangely lax in its control, and there is corruption
and there is corruption right up to the political level, further criminal machinations are only a stone's throw away....
In addition the article fits super:
https://www.online-casino.de/nachrichten/mafia-auf-malta-ist-die-gluecksspiel-aufsicht-unterwandert-29638/
But with the normal player is partly checked because of the money laundering law with Kleinstauszahlungen
already ünerprüft. This is ridiculous and a pretext for a joke.
There's no need to explain that anymore, is there?
The common sense says one nevertheless already that there much in the argen lies, and much we do not get at all
not with!
They will try everything possible in their power to increase the profit. And there everything is thematized, there
nothing is taboo. Neither ne RTP, which eh keienr can check, nor whether the slots really bring random images,
or whether the swamp goes much deeper in the direction of game manufacturers.
Actually, only that is the question!
And for these developments GJ can in principle nothing against it!
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So Daniel. You think nothing has changed in the months of playing? Really nothing at all? You must have a different perception than many others here. And I have been keeping records since I started playing. I know what kind of wins I could pay out and with what kind of deposits they were made. Gambling became a different thing in January and since March it has increased extremely. It is no longer feasible for me to play my way up, so as soon as I have won something, I pay out immediately
On the other hand..the casino is short of staff? Ahja...always surprising that there are NEVER problems with deposits and the casinos have their money in no time, with the payouts countless reasons are advanced, why it takes grad times laaaange. And even if it were so, the problem is there...The wins there always remain cancelable and can not be secured. That's just method what they do there..point!
Why do you go with your criticism that we players express here against the casinos, even critical with the casinos in court, but always argue for the? That is exactly what I no longer understand. Sorry....
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respective casino, even if they are so ridiculous, and only there to not have to pay off
to have to.
From such an "independent" authority I expect that with accumulation of complaints times something more exactly
is looked at, and as a final consequence, the license is withdrawn.
But since this is not so, I assume a "cooperation" of the MGA and the casinos.
After all, these licenses cost quite a bit, and you do not dig your own clientele
away......
I don't know at best what these are for.
Only in Verification difficulties and delays in the payout they help a little.
They can't do anything else if the case is crystal clear.
But if after weeks the decision comes, the casino has achieved exactly what it wanted to
what it wanted - to delay!
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I agree with you 100% ! So it is...
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In addition, I have the MGA at no point praised for their work and I am of the same opinion as you that the casinos should design their terms and conditions as far as possible customer-oriented. However, I have no influence on this and unfortunately I can not influence it. If I could, believe me, I would immediately abolish the €5 maxbetrule today. I would introduce that Online Casinos could not deny wins due to the violation of bonus terms. If a casino wants to offer Bonuses, then the casino must also be technically capable (such as Videoslots or SlotsMillion ) to implement the rules technically so that players can not violate them in the first place.
@stkrie I have heard you so far only grumble. Can you send me a list of online casinos which are top in your opinion or is there no single casino which is good or at least acceptable in your opinion? Something like that would be really helpful (I'm serious).
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