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Off topic & small talk: Psychotherapy for gambling (Page 3)

Topic created on 27th Jan. 2024 | Page: 3 of 4 | Answers: 47 | Views: 3,706
agnesaislami
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Psychotherapy for gambling

5th Feb. 2024, at 07:07 pm CET#31
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Whoever has read this far, or will read it. Believe me. Really, believe every single word I say. Everything I'm going through right now is because of gaming. And every single second is absolute hell. It doesn't get any worse than this. Protect your brain for as long as you can, don't go as far as me. My quality of life has dropped to 5-10% at the moment. Every day is torture, sometimes more, sometimes less.

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T0uchTheSky
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Psychotherapy for gambling

5th Feb. 2024, at 08:03 pm CET#32
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You only get psychological problems when gambling if you can't afford to gamble. You always have the thought of losing that money in the back of your mind, which is a great feeling of anxiety.

For example, if I Deposit 100 euros in a casino and I know that I don't need these 100 euros, i.e. it doesn't hurt me if this money is gone, why should I have mental problems when gambling?

That's exactly the case with some people, for example, you haven't paid your rent yet, you deposit this money in a casino in the hope that you can multiply it. Then he spins and spins, the balance keeps going down, now comes the psychological problem. Oh shit, the balance is only half, how am I supposed to pay my rent now?

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agnesaislami
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Psychotherapy for gambling

5th Feb. 2024, at 08:27 pm CET#33
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 05.02.2024 at 20:03: You only get psychological problems when gambling if you can't afford to gamble. You always have this thought in the back of your mind of losing this money, so you feel really scared.

For example, if I Deposit 100 euros in a casino and I know that I don't need these 100 euros, i.e. it doesn't hurt me if this money is gone, why would I get mental problems when gambling?

That's exactly what happens with some people, for example, they haven't paid their rent yet, they deposit this money in a casino in the hope that they can multiply it. Then he spins and spins, the balance keeps going down, now comes the psychological problem. Oh shit, the balance is only half, how am I supposed to pay my rent now?

Yep, that's exactly it. I deposited so much money that I actually needed. But according to the therapist, this can also happen without this approach. When you play, your brain is under constant stress. No matter how "clearly" you play. Unless you play with 0% interest, but that's not the case because otherwise you wouldn't play at all. Thinking about the game beforehand, thinking about the game afterwards and then, of course, thinking during the game. He is under constant stress. And this constant stress can lead to psychological problems

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Olli_Eule
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Psychotherapy for gambling

5th Feb. 2024, at 08:56 pm CET#34
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agnesaislami wrote on 05.02.2024 at 20:27:

Yep, that's exactly it. I deposited money so often that I actually needed it. But according to the therapist, this can also happen without this procedure. When you play, your brain is under constant stress. No matter how "clearly" you play. Unless you play with 0% interest, but that's not the case because otherwise you wouldn't play at all. Thinking about the game beforehand, thinking about the game afterwards and then, of course, thinking during the game. He is under constant stress. And this constant stress can lead to psychological problems

Exactly the thinking beforehand, hopefully I'll win, then during the betting, heart racing and anxiety, hopefully it goes well. If I lose, I'm frustrated and annoyed, I wish I'd taken the other game.


In the same way, I would have preferred to cash out or not.

It's all this confusion of thoughts in the brain.

Cashout drives you crazy. Because the brain has to make a decision.

Or if you make bets that you didn't want to make before, losing control also makes you sick.

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T0uchTheSky
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Psychotherapy for gambling

5th Feb. 2024, at 09:05 pm CET#35
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Olli_Eule wrote on 05.02.2024 at 20:56:

Exactly the thinking before hopefully I win, then during the bet heart palpitations and fear hopefully it goes well. If you lose, you're frustrated and annoyed, I would have preferred to take the other game.


In the same way, I would have preferred to cash out or not.

It's all this confusion of thoughts in the brain.

Cashout drives you crazy. Because the brain has to make a decision.

Or when you make bets that you didn't want to make before, loss of control also makes you sick.

Of course your brain always has to think when you cross the road, your brain also has to think beforehand so that you don't get run over. When you're in the middle of the road, your brain is probably now thinking, cross quickly, otherwise I'll get run over. When you get to the other side of the road, your brain thinks, yay, I made it and survived, I'm so proud of myself, haha.


Every day our brain has to deal with stress, but when something gets too much, the brain naturally flattens out. What does Confucius always say: in moderation and not in masses!

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Olli_Eule
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Psychotherapy for gambling

5th Feb. 2024, at 09:35 pm CET#36
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 05/02/2024 21:05:

Well of course the brain always has to think when you cross the road, your brain also has to think beforehand to avoid getting run over. When you're in the middle of the road, your brain is probably thinking, cross quickly or I'll get run over. When you get to the other side of the road, your brain thinks, yay, I made it and survived, I'm so proud of myself, haha.


Every day our brain has to deal with stress, but when something becomes too much, the brain naturally flattens. What does Confucius always say: in moderation and not in masses!

What I mean by that is that other regions of the brain are probably triggered.


A compulsion to win, the pressure not to lose. Why does it all make you nervous, why do you get insecure, why do you get scared . Neck pain etc.

Or your head gets used to moments of happiness and when you lose you get depressed.

I don't know why it all affects the psyche.

Sure, if you're addicted and gamble away all your wages, you get scared that you'll end up on the street at some point. But that's not the case for me. Well

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Langhans_innen
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Psychotherapy for gambling

5th Feb. 2024, at 10:03 pm CET#37
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Olli_Eule wrote on 05.02.2024 at 20:56:

Just like Cashout, I would have preferred to cashout or not.

I think we've already discussed this topic before, knowing full well that the cashout function is a very central instrument for you: in individual cases, an early cashout can be correct or worthwhile, but using the cashout permanently is a guaranteed minus transaction. The bookmaker pays for this option in the form of a not inconsiderable discount. Every time you use it. Example: your winnings would be €100 if everything hits the mark. In the middle of the 2nd half, you get cold feet in the last game and sell the bet back for €70, even though it was already worth €85. That's not a good deal for the customer in the long run. Once you decide to stop using the feature, you have one less stress factor in your case and a better RTP in the long run. Even if a bet sometimes breaks painfully in the last few meters and you would otherwise have received a share. But then the next one is in full force.

I also don't see any point in placing a 4-bet combination if you're constantly thinking about using the cashout option after three hits anyway. A three-way combination would be more appropriate from the outset. My statistics with premature payouts are at least clearly negative, which is why I have now rigorously banned the button and don't regret it

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T0uchTheSky
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Psychotherapy for gambling

6th Feb. 2024, at 03:06 am CET#38
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Olli_Eule wrote on 05.02.2024 21:35:

What I mean by that is that other brain regions are probably triggered.


A compulsion to win, the pressure not to lose. Why does it all make you nervous, why do you get insecure, why do you get scared . Neck pain etc.

Or your head gets used to moments of happiness and when you lose you get depressed.

I don't know why it all affects the psyche.

Sure, if you're addicted and gamble away all your wages, you get scared that you'll end up on the street at some point. But that's not the case for me. Well

I understand you dear owl, that's why Confucius always says: in moderation and not in bulk! So from today, you can only place 1 bet per month

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Falke
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Psychotherapy for gambling

6th Feb. 2024, at 03:07 am CET#39
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 05.02.2024 at 20:03: You only get psychological problems when gambling if you can't afford to gamble. You always have this thought in the back of your mind of losing this money, so you feel really scared.

For example, if I Deposit 100 euros in a casino and I know that I don't need these 100 euros, i.e. it doesn't hurt me if this money is gone, why should I get psychological problems when gambling.

That's exactly the case with some people, for example, you haven't paid your rent yet, you deposit this money in a casino in the hope that you can multiply it. Then he spins and spins, the balance keeps going down, now comes the psychological problem. Oh shit, the balance is only half, how am I supposed to pay my rent now?

But that's very short-sighted. You don't have to be completely broke for gambling to have a negative impact on your health.

You can also just be annoyed in general when you lose money. It can also simply be very tiring and mentally stressful if you gamble for 10 hours straight, perhaps even for days on end, even if you have only lost small amounts of money or can afford to do so.

It can also affect your psyche if you want to stop but can't, even if you don't have a problem with the rent. It can be the same when you realize how much money you have lost over time and how senseless it was/is.

Even if you just have 10k in your account, it can make you extremely angry if you've just lost 500. What's more, many people only play to compensate for something, there is often a completely different problem behind it, etc.

There are hundreds more examples of why gambling can have a negative impact on the psyche, without you having to look for returnable bottles to be able to afford your next rent. All players lose real money and losing money is never fun and is always associated with stress.

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agnesaislami
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Psychotherapy for gambling

6th Feb. 2024, at 11:11 am CET#40
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Falke wrote on 06.02.2024 at 03:07:
But that's very short-sighted. You don't have to be completely broke for gambling to have negative effects on your health.

You can also just be generally annoyed when you lose money. It can also simply be very tiring and mentally stressful if you gamble for 10 hours straight, perhaps even for days on end, even if you've only lost small amounts of money or can afford to do so.

It can also affect your psyche if you want to stop but can't, even if you don't have a problem with the rent. It can be the same when you realize how much money you have lost over time and how senseless it was/is.

Even if you just have 10k in your account, it can make you extremely angry if you've just lost 500. What's more, many people only play to compensate for something, there is often a completely different problem behind it, etc.

There are hundreds more examples of why gambling can have a negative impact on the psyche, without you having to look for returnable bottles to be able to afford your next rent. All players lose real money and losing money is never fun and is always associated with stress.


On point. That's exactly how you explain it. Quite "normal" people don't gamble (to exaggerate). For one very simple reason, there is absolutely nothing positive about it. Really, nothing at all.
I was finally lucky enough to sleep for 10 hours today without any problems. What is the most normal thing in the world for some people is now the greatest gift for me.

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agnesaislami
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Psychotherapy for gambling

2nd Mar. 2024, at 08:38 pm CET#41
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Hello everyone,

in case anyone is interested: I no longer have anxiety/panic attacks. Thanks to the (important) quick psychiatric help.
I've spoken to a lot of doctors in the last few weeks. It's unbelievable that I only got this because of the gambling addiction. I've been gambling-free since the first day I felt bad. Suffering and blessing at the same time. Take care of yourselves. Value your health. Life is a thousand times better without gambling

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MisterL
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Psychotherapy for gambling

2nd Mar. 2024, at 09:47 pm CET#42
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what are you doing now to satisfy your boredom?

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T0uchTheSky
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Psychotherapy for gambling

3rd Mar. 2024, at 12:31 am CET#43
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MisterL wrote on 02.03.2024 at 21:47: what are you doing now to satisfy your boredom?

Now he just tries to sleep, because with all other things he would probably get psychological problems again...

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Olli_Eule
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Psychotherapy for gambling

3rd Mar. 2024, at 03:42 am CET#44
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MisterL wrote on 02.03.2024 at 21:47: what are you doing now to satisfy your boredom?

Boredom will soon be my problem.

Especially at the weekends. That could backfire if I don't have any luck for a year.

I realize again that I always bet at the wrong time. But I'm not mentally stable enough anyway. I'll have to see.

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Donnie
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Psychotherapy for gambling

3rd Mar. 2024, at 05:44 am CET#45
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Man owl, sports betting has always been an eternal back and forth. No matter how well you analyze it. Some days it works and other days it's a disaster, that will never change

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