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Official apology to all users and the Gamblejoe team
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I actually do not find that he has dealt against Avantgarde, only against another user. Probably he was/is embarrassed by it all himself, at least his behavior indicates that. Seems to be a person with decent problems but since I never had to do with him or one of his he/she/it is me ultimately also no matter what happens now. I'm with Tropper and also think we should wait until/if someone doesn't want to comment.
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Pardon... I meant this one too.
But I, too, will.nun here times wait, that comes on the part of GJ a statement...
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Even if you have nothing at least you can give him your paysafe winnings
I prefer to have an empty stomach than to have debts to strangers
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... and you think someone who invents 3 different or more personalities to get 50 euros or so has a sense of honor?
i don't think so... and you can't help such people... why do you think he moved... so he can't see the people where he owes everywhere...
makes just no fun to run around outside and then to be talked about by all etc...
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thanks, that has something when vivera apologizes to someone
you may the --> other <-- user gern beim namen nennen, dazu brauchts keine erlaubnis. ich lese mir das damalige nicht nochmal durch sonst fahren meine blutkörperchen wieder achterbahn.
wenn ich dann in einem post lese dass sich hammerdammer bei daniel auch noch beschwert hat warum andere mehr punkte sammeln dann bestätigt es meinen post wo es nicht nur mir passiert ist dass diese kleinigkeit gereicht hat und man es bei ihm auf ewig verscherzt hat und demnach seinen immer wieder kehrenden provokationen durch seine oder eine seiner anderen namen ausgesetzt war.
wahrscheinlich sitzt er aber auch heute abend wieder auf der couch, schleckt sich die finger nach gutem abendessen und lacht sich einen ab wie gut man doch gj und dessen user manipulieren und abzocken kann.
da er hier nicht mal mitschreibt ist von reue oder veränderung keine spur, genau wie seiner zeit wo er so etwas einfach aussitzen wollte.
mich würde dennoch die meinung -->no matter whether positive or negative <-- of other users who have witnessed him over the months, interested
and it is as I said, not only that I now feel uncomfortable if I want to write a new user a welcome and therefore do not do it, no these users also emphasize for a long time only quietly mitgelesen and only now with only one name to have registered. either anticipatory not to be suspected or immediately suspicious it could be about h.
please keep in mind that some users only have time to look in here on weekends.
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first off, I'd like to thank the members who have been exercising some patience waiting for our official statement. A well intentioned note to those members who are upset that we are not taking a stand at 2am: We are human beings, we have families, normal daily rhythms, and therefore cannot be available 24/7 to formulate posts of this nature.
Partly, you also have to think about what is happening in the forum before formulating a response. Even if I am sometimes displayed online for a short time, I just want to convince myself of the functionality of the site and not necessarily immediately comment on all problems.
The decision of unblocking
First, I want to make it clear that the decision to unblock Hammerdammer took a long time. I have written countless emails with Hammerdammer. In the meantime, he has confessed his actions after Domesum "washed his head". There were apologies from his side and assurances that he wanted to clarify everything with the community
In the team we have been aware that the Hammerdammer case has brought big problems, especially after we learned about Avantgarde83. I assumed after Hammerdammer's apologies that he would provide solutions for his mistakes.
A direct apology to Avantgarde83 and Iseedeadpeople was expected, furthermore we hoped for attempts of clarification for the deeds of the past. We simply wanted people to part on good terms, unless he could find a connection here. He should have the chance to solve the situation on his own, so we held back with official statements.
Hammerdammer was given a chance by us to move on GambleJoe by 8pm Wednesday night to formulate a sincere apology that would satisfy all members involved. Ideally, everything could have been resolved so that he could become a full member again. Most importantly for us, possibly the members he borrowed money from would have one last chance to communicate with him since he vowed insight and to mend his ways. We really thought he wanted to clean things up in some way.
Depending on how the community receives his apology, it should determine whether the suspension will be reinstated or implemented permanently.
However, your reactions have shown us that it is already becoming very difficult for him to become a part of the community again. Therefore, the decision is also clear for us to a certain extent, but we will wait until tomorrow to see what else comes out of the situation.
Certainly an official statement from us would have been important, but we wanted to give Hammerdammer personally the chance to set everything right, so that we get a realistic opinion of the community. We didn't want to influence your opinions in any way through a statement by GambleJoe.
In meetings we already talked about the fact that there could be shitstorms, I can understand your anger and frustration in a way, but we still wanted to find a halfway reasonable solution at least for Avantgarde83 and Iseedeadpeople this way.
The lack of communication certainly created the perception that Hammerdammer has a kind of "carte blanche" and gets off scot-free.
To say it again with all clarity: On GambleJoe nobody gets special rights.
On the subject of security on GambleJoe
We would like to emphasize at this point that we talk almost daily in meetings about how we can optimize GambleJoe in such a way that fake accounts can be blocked more quickly. We have numerous approaches and are currently developing a system that works transparently and also gives you the opportunity to see that we are already enforcing certain penalties.
It may sometimes seem to the outside world that we are doing nothing, but internally we are in contact with numerous members. Admonishments are issued, spam threads are removed daily, and members who want to harm GambleJoe are already blocked daily.
This is all a lot of work, but we do it all with passion and will solve these problems as well.
The hint with the Verification by cell phone number is interesting in any case and we will discuss if this is technically feasible. We don't want to check your ID cards for data protection reasons. So this option is not available for the time being.
What will happen to Hammerdammer now
Until tomorrow evening at 20 o'clock he can comment, apologize or explain himself here in the forum, however he will do it, he got this deadline from us and we will not shorten it prematurely.
It would be nice if he communicates via private message with Avantgarde83, how a solution of the repayment of the borrowed money could look like.
Here we advise the exchange of cell phone numbers, or other contact information, as we may block Hammerdammer's account again tomorrow evening.
This final decision will depend on whether he manages to reconcile with the community and offers credible solutions to the problem.
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For me it is a matter of principle. The way he behaved, I have never experienced in my 34 years of existence. Under all sow! there one asks oneself, how so someone at all with itself klarkommt.
Well, after I heard that he is already privately insolvent and has zich creditors, I no longer expect even one euro from his side. And after all the fairy tales he has told us and after his escape into "the poor gambling victim", I don't believe a word he says anymore. Personally, I have learned from this and something like this will not happen to me again.
hey, what's much better: i haven't gambled for over a month. THAT is a real win, which I can not outweigh with the paltry 400 euros of debt...
let's wait and see what he gives of himself.
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is waited, as he agrees with the people evt?
That does not make his past actions undone.
You are already aware that here at the moment no one trusts the other more.
And Hammer to keep a back door open, I can honestly understand zero!
It is and remains an unequal treatment, and you know that too!
As has already been stated, people have been banned for less.
Therefore, this explanation has at least in the regard a bland
Aftertaste.
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@matthias
your statement is very well thought out and it is as usual from you quite normal that one needs first of all some thinking time with every topic and should always take. thanks until here
would be happy if I had 400 you are right with the real win but the own suppression process with the thought --> you never get the 400 anyway <-- lets you just assume the thing would be over for you.
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On the subject of security here in the forum. I hope very much that you will find a solution. If I am written to by someone new, it is now a really stupid feeling. If one has written with someone and behind it someone else has hidden, that has given me personally a really doofes feeling. And that has spoiled me here very many things, I must confess, because I had met some nice people here. But I personally don't go here that clueless anymore.... The feeling of this Pia Mia things to have written, which finally arrived at Hammer... Without words...
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