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Off topic & small talk: New impressions from the Slotakademie (Page 5)

Topic created on 30th Jun. 2024 | Page: 5 of 5 | Answers: 45 | Views: 1,991
frapi07
Elite

Falke wrote on 03.07.2024 at 20:26:

Yes, except that the main money is not made with the number of views, but with advertising deals, apart from YouTube. I know a Youtuber who runs a finance channel with 10,000 followers. I don't know how much she earns now, but even with 2,000 followers she was already making almost 2k a month. Simply because the financial sector pays better and she was able to conclude a cooperation quite quickly. Today she probably earns at least twice that, if not three times as much.


What's more, you already have videos online. This means that the more videos you have, the more clicks you get per month, because your old videos are also clicked on. Of course, it all depends on the topic you're covering. While an opinion blogger only gets a few clicks on old videos, a financial blogger can also benefit from this in the long term.

Then most of them also have Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok or something else where they can also conclude advertising deals.

You just have to have crossed the magic threshold once, but once you've done that, money comes in from every side.

It doesn't matter, it doesn't have to be your thing and a good education is of course desirable. But I don't see what's wrong with being an influencer. You can earn really good money and do things that you enjoy.

Yes, the financial sector pays extremely well. It's also the most lucrative, but it's difficult to gain a foothold there. At our university, finance was a subject we had to drop out of because of the high failure rates. But if you got 1 or 2, you could specialize in it and then earn significantly more than, for example, a personnel manager.

What's not cool about that? That you can no longer go anywhere normally. IShowSpeed" is currently touring Europe and is often in Germany because of the European Championships. He was once at a public viewing in Frankfurt when Portugal played Slovenia. He couldn't watch the game and even had to be escorted by the police. He generally always has 1-2 bodyguards and people go completely crazy (not just children) when they see him.

This may be an exaggeration, but many content creators don't feel comfortable outside, sometimes feel they are being watched and report that they are often filmed and photographed. There is zero privacy and you can't really enjoy the good money. People are doxxed, especially female content creators have to struggle with this. Here's a video where you can see how intrusive people can sometimes be (even if it's just children) Monte is followed by children #monte #montanablack (youtube.com)


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Falke
Expert

frapi07 wrote on 03.07.2024 at 20:40:

Yes, the financial sector pays extremely well. It's also the most lucrative, but it's hard to gain a foothold there. At our university, finance was a subject we had to drop out of because there were high failure rates. But if you got 1 or 2, you could specialize in it and then earn significantly more than a personnel manager, for example.

What's not cool about that? That you can no longer go anywhere normally. IShowSpeed" is currently touring Europe and is often in Germany because of the European Championships. He was once at a public viewing in Frankfurt when Portugal played Slovenia. He couldn't watch the game and even had to be escorted by the police. Generally, he always has 1-2 bodyguards and people go completely crazy (not just children) when they see him.

This may be an exaggeration, but many content creators don't feel comfortable outside, sometimes feel they are being watched and report that they are often filmed and photographed. There is zero privacy and you can't really enjoy the good money. People are doxxed, especially female content creators have to struggle with this. Here's a video where you can see how intrusive people can sometimes be (even if it's just children) Monte is followed by children #monte #montanablack (youtube.com)



Actors have the same problem and most influencers like the hype around themselves. Besides, you're talking about influencers who are really well-known and have millions of followers. Seriously, who knows how many times we've come across influencers with 100,000 followers and don't even know it. Most of them aren't that famous. What's more, many influencers live in another country.


For example, they create content for German-speaking countries, but then live somewhere by the sea in Spain or similar, where nobody knows them. Of course there are downsides, but you're overdramatizing it a little. Someone who is so famous that they are recognized everywhere already earns seven figures a month. So it's a nice compensation. And if you also think it's great to have groupies, that's an added bonus.

But well, that wouldn't be a life for you. And that's perfectly okay.

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frapi07
Elite
Falke wrote on 03.07.2024 at 21:11:

Actors have the same problem and most influencers like the hype around themselves. Besides, you're talking about influencers who are really famous and have millions of followers. Seriously, who knows how many times we've come across influencers with 100,000 followers and don't even know it. Most of them aren't that famous. What's more, many influencers live in another country.


For example, they create content for German-speaking countries, but then live somewhere by the sea in Spain or similar, where nobody knows them. Of course there are downsides, but you're overdramatizing it a little. Someone who is so famous that they are recognized everywhere is already earning seven figures a month. So it's a nice compensation. And if you also think it's great to have groupies, that's an added bonus.

But well, that wouldn't be a life for you. And that's perfectly okay.

Not everyone likes it. Many Youtubers (especially the older ones) are more introverted and only act in front of the camera. The best example is Unge: the guy is always "politically correct" in the videos, but in private he is completely different and celebrates/uses black humor.


When I met this Kelly, I spoke to her directly. It was completely normal and polite. She was so shy back then that she could hardly get a word out. I met her when I went to get a kebab (I always went there because it tasted good). But on YouTube and on TV she's very extroverted. Not only now, but also back then she was like that in the videos. You're forgetting that many people on social media wear one or even several face masks. Very few people know what they are like in private.

And not everyone lives in a village. I've met a few Instagrammers/Youtubers/Tik Tokers and I only live in Fürth/Nuremberg. If you live in Cologne or Hamburg, you're sure to see some of them walking around more often.

Someone who comes from my area and has a bit more success than this Kelly is Phil Laude (from the Y-Titty).

Not everyone likes the limelight, and it wouldn't be for me, you're right, but I think it hits influencers harder, precisely because they can't shut themselves off in their 20-30 million mansions like actors. They have to/want to go about their normal activities at some point, be it normal shopping or simply going for a stroll in the city. But most of them can't because they are disturbed and even if they can't, they develop this fear of always being watched and recognized.


Edit: look at Mois, the guy is the current proof of how Fame can break you and that's no fun.

Now Mois reveals his true drug routine - Raptastic

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Falke
Expert

frapi07 wrote on 03.07.2024 at 21:47:
Not everyone likes that. Many Youtubers (rather the older ones) are more introverted and only act in front of the camera. Best example Unge: the guy is always "politically correct" in the videos, but in private he is completely different and celebrates/uses black humor.


When I met this Kelly, I spoke to her directly. It was completely normal and polite. She was so shy back then that she could hardly get a word out. I met her when I went to get a kebab (I always went there because it tasted good). But on YouTube and on TV she's very extroverted. Not only now, but also back then she was like that in the videos. You're forgetting that many people on social media wear one or even several face masks. Very few people know what they are like in private.

And not everyone lives in a village. I've met a few Instagrammers/Youtubers/Tik Tokers and I only live in Fürth/Nuremberg. If you live in Cologne or Hamburg, you're sure to see some of them walking around more often.

Someone who comes from my area and has a bit more success than this Kelly is Phil Laude (from the Y-Titty).

Not everyone likes the limelight, and it wouldn't be for me, you're right, but I think it hits influencers harder, precisely because they can't shut themselves off in their 20-30 million mansions like actors. They have to/want to go about their normal activities at some point, be it normal shopping or simply going for a stroll in the city. But most of them can't because they are disturbed and even if they can't, they develop this fear of always being watched and recognized.


Edit: check out Mois, the guy is the current proof of how Fame can break you and that's no fun.

Now Mois reveals his true drug routine - Raptastic

So what? No one's forcing them to become influencers. Or what exactly are we supposed to do now? Start a petition to "save the poor influencers" or what exactly do you have in mind? Everything has pros and cons.


If it was so bad for them, they could just stop doing it. After just a few months, nobody will remember them anyway, because they simply don't do anything earth-shattering and you could do without them completely.

And Mois didn't go under because he's an influencer, but because he's apparently just a messed-up guy. He would have gone down completely without the internet, but then nobody would have noticed.

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Frankey
Experienced
frapi07 wrote on 03.07.2024 at 21:47:
Not everyone likes that. Many Youtubers (rather the older ones) are more introverted and only act in front of the camera. Best example Unge: the guy is always "politically correct" in the videos, but in private he is completely different and celebrates/uses black humor.


When I met this Kelly, I spoke to her directly. It was completely normal and polite. She was so shy back then that she could hardly get a word out. I met her when I went to get a kebab (I always went there because it tasted good). But on YouTube and on TV she's very extroverted. Not only now, but also back then she was like that in the videos. You're forgetting that many people on social media wear one or even several face masks. Very few people know what they are like in private.

And not everyone lives in a village. I've met a few Instagrammers/Youtubers/Tik Tokers and I only live in Fürth/Nuremberg. If you live in Cologne or Hamburg, you're sure to see some of them walking around more often.

Someone who comes from my area and has a bit more success than this Kelly is Phil Laude (from the Y-Titty).

Not everyone likes the limelight, and it wouldn't be for me, you're right, but I think it hits influencers harder, precisely because they can't shut themselves off in their 20-30 million mansions like actors. They have to/want to go about their normal activities at some point, be it normal shopping or simply going for a stroll in the city. But most of them can't because they are disturbed and even if they can't, they develop this fear of always being watched and recognized.


Edit: check out Mois, the guy is the current proof of how Fame can break you and that's no fun.

Now Mois reveals his true drug routine - Raptastic

I don't think being in the spotlight is too much for them because that's why they do it in the first place. More clicks and followers more money.

But more followers also means that their mood can change very quickly. One wrong word or gesture and you're at the mercy of a shitstorm. Yesterday's 2000 more likes are suddenly 2000 dont likes. In addition, the ugly comments suddenly push your post even higher, at least on meta portals because their algorithms are designed to push content that comes across as negative, aggressively angry because such content gets more clicks, i.e. more money for Zuckerberg and meta shareholders.
How does a young person deal with this? They don't have any training beforehand or a public relations team to deal with it. And it's no longer enough to just have an Instagram or Twitch channel. You have to have a Tik Tok channel because that's the platform where you advertise your Twitch or Instagram channel.

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frapi07
Elite

Falke wrote on 03.07.2024 at 23:28:

So what? Nobody is forcing them to become influencers. Or what exactly should we do now? Start a petition to "save the poor influencers" or what exactly do you have in mind? Everything has pros and cons.


If it was so bad for them, they could just stop doing it. After just a few months, nobody will remember them anyway, because they simply don't do anything earth-shattering and you could do without them completely.

And Mois didn't go under because he's an influencer, but because he's apparently just a messed-up guy. He would have gone down completely without the internet, but then nobody would have noticed.

No, not that. I just wanted to point out that not everyone is great at the "profession".

A lot of people actually quit, either because they become uninteresting or because it all gets too much.

Regarding Mois: I don't think he would have dropped out. Fame put him on this path. But I don't know him personally, so I don't know what he was like before and what it could have been like.

Frankey wrote on 03/07/2024 23:34:
Being in the spotlight I don't think is what's too much for them because that's why they do it in the first place. More clicks and followers more money.

But more followers also means that their mood can change very quickly. One wrong word or gesture and you're at the mercy of a shitstorm. Yesterday's 2000 more likes are suddenly 2000 dont likes. In addition, the ugly comments suddenly push your post even higher, at least on meta portals because their algorithms are designed to push content that comes across as negative, aggressively angry because such content gets more clicks, i.e. more money for Zuckerberg and meta shareholders.
How does a young person deal with this? They don't have any training beforehand or a public relations team to deal with it. And it's no longer enough to just have an Instagram or Twitch channel. You have to have a Tik Tok channel because that's the platform where you advertise your Twitch or Instagram channel.

That's also true - as you can see from the current scandals. Even if I don't want to define them as scandals, well-known influencers are currently being exposed. The good influencer XY, who is otherwise so nice and sweet, then turns out to be a narcissist. Half the internet is then shocked, for whatever reason. Many people really think that person X on the internet is also like that in private. As I've already mentioned, most people put on one or more masks to please the general public. If everyone were so real, then many wouldn't see the big money either. Good example is the good MontanaBlack, streamed nicely OC before and now no more. If he had stopped because he thought the business was shit or no longer wanted to support the industry, then it would be a different story, but the guy continues to play OC himself and only stopped because otherwise he would have slipped even further into the negative.

With more followers comes more pressure to perform better. Better performance here simply means generating high click numbers. People are fixated on numbers, be it click figures or whatever else there is. This can damage the psyche, and some people have reported that they were no longer able to enjoy their hobby because of it.


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