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Off topic & small talk: New impressions from the Slotakademie (Page 4)

Topic created on 30th Jun. 2024 | Page: 4 of 5 | Answers: 45 | Views: 1,989
mannymansch
Rookie
How cool is that? The best contributions from this thread summarized. Someone who can get that across well and I'm sure it'll be a great number with the best comedians in Germany. Really, amazing. It's been a long time since I've been this happy just reading this.

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mannymansch
Rookie

gamble1 wrote on 02.07.2024 at 21:28:

Wasn't there once a casino that was constantly getting on your nerves with "Hey Bro" and stuff?

I find the smileys for the conversations even more awesome. I wouldn't do that job. And the fact that they speak in children's language and without polite formulas is probably due to the fact (sorry to have to say it like this) that the younger the age group, the greater the stupidity. Every year the performance requirements drop and yet at the end of the year you realize that they haven't dropped enough. What you had to know 20 years ago to get a secondary school leaving certificate is certainly enough to get a university entrance qualification today.

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mannymansch
Rookie
I mean, they learn to write according to spoken language today........ Has anyone ever listened to what the pronunciation is like today? How is that supposed to work? It's so sad but true. Anyway, it's just embarrassing. Whether as a participant or as a "streamer" of such an ^^academy^^. I think you can compare it to a workshop for the disabled. But well. To each his own. I feel better now, thanks for letting me vent here

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gamble1
Legend
mannymansch wrote on 02.07.2024 at 23:56: I mean, they learn to write according to spoken language today........ Has anyone ever listened to what the pronunciation is like today? How is that supposed to work? It's so sad but true. Anyway, it's just embarrassing. Whether as a participant or as a "streamer" of such an ^^academy^^. I think you can compare it to a workshop for the disabled. But well. To each his own. I feel better now, thanks for letting me vent here

As the saying used to go that the older generation liked to use "If you don't learn anything, you'll end up at Daimler on the assembly line"


Today "If you don't learn anything, you'll end up at the Slot Academy as a Streamer ahhhh guilty as a lecturer"

But seriously, this generation of fast money on the Internet and in social media is making everyone stupid, but more than half of them certainly haven't done an hour of real work yet

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Rainmann
Elite

gamble1 wrote on 03.07.2024 at 11:08 am:
How did the saying always used to go that the older generation liked to use so much "If you learn nothing, you end up at Daimler on the assembly line"


Today "If you learn nothing you end up in the slot academy as a Streamer ahhhh guilty as a lecturer"

But seriously, this generation of fast money on the Internet and in social media is making everyone stupid, but more than half of them certainly haven't done an hour of real work yet

The problem is that you can earn more money as an influencer etc. than in a "normal" job. Influenza is now also a normal profession. If I could choose, I'd rather earn the money that way than break my back, which is now garbage from working anyway.

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gamble1
Legend

Rainmann wrote on 03.07.2024 at 13:22:

The problem is that you can earn more money as an influenza etc. than in a "normal" profession. Influenza is now also a normal profession. If I could choose, I would rather earn the money that way than break my back, which is now junk from working anyway.

Yes, that's true, but when I hear what a hard life they have, I always think it expresses pure contempt for anyone who earns their money, which is usually just enough to survive, with physical labor

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frapi07
Elite

Rainmann wrote on 03.07.2024 at 13:22:

The problem is that you can earn more money as an influenza etc. than in a "normal" profession. Influenza is now also a normal profession. If I could choose, I would rather earn the money that way than break my back, which is now junk from working anyway.

The likelihood of getting a chance like this is really low. It just has to fit and you have to be lucky, to put it bluntly. It's not easy for everyone to decide whether they want to be a "content creator" or something else.

and even if you're lucky, you have to somehow manage to stay interesting and that's even harder to do. I can name quite a few "content creators" who are irrelevant these days. Some had a short "hype" and were also taken off --> live like normal people today (example Hans Entertainment )



Nowadays it's difficult anyway because there are too many "content creators". In the beginning you earn very little (30-300€/month). You can't live on that and it has become more difficult these days to live until you have a flash of inspiration and are therefore in the hype or the content is doing well.

I wouldn't want to do that, even if I had a 10-year guarantee where I had a monthly income of €10,000. You ruin your future, it's difficult to gain a foothold in the world of work after 10 years without training or studying. In addition, you are recognized everywhere, you are stalked, doxxed (your address is published on the Internet and orders are placed). Money isn't everything and some people stop/ take a break.

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Falke
Expert
frapi07 wrote on 03.07.2024 14:49:

The probability of getting such a chance is really low. It just has to fit and you have to be lucky, to put it bluntly. It's not easy for everyone to decide whether they want to be a "content creator" or something else.

and even if you're lucky, you have to somehow manage to stay interesting and that's even harder to do. I can name several "content creators" who are irrelevant these days. Some had a short "hype" and were also taken off --> live like normal people today (example Hans Entertainment )



Nowadays it's difficult anyway because there are too many "content creators". In the beginning you earn very little (30-300€/month). You can't live on that and it has become more difficult these days to live until you have a flash of inspiration and are therefore in the hype or the content is doing well.

I wouldn't want to do that, even if I had a 10-year guarantee where I had a monthly income of €10,000. You ruin your future, it's difficult to gain a foothold in the world of work after 10 years without training or studying. In addition, you are recognized everywhere, you are stalked, doxxed (your address is published on the Internet and orders are placed). Money isn't everything and some people stop/ take a break.

If you manage to be a successful influencer for 10 years, then you're already set. 10.000 € is rather mediocre success, we are talking about influencers with only a few followers.


I would do it immediately. Being invited by hotels for free just so you can post something about them once. Dusting off huge sums of money from several companies just to show the product briefly in a video, etc. Getting rich by simply pursuing your hobby and then posting.

And if it's so important to you to have a good education, then as an influencer you can do a degree or something similar because you can manage your own time. So an influencer can do something at any time, whereas someone with "only" a good education can't even become an equally successful influencer.

Of course, there are also many negative examples. The guy you posted, in particular, let himself be ripped off enormously and couldn't handle money. Nevertheless, he made almost 2 million in just a few years with ZERO talent or ability. Instead of drinking the money away and getting ripped off, he would have almost made it now if he had invested it wisely or started his own company or whatever. Can't for the life of me understand what's better about earning 3k a month instead.

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frapi07
Elite

Falke wrote on 03.07.2024 at 17:54:
If you manage to be a successful influencer for 10 years, then you're already set. 10.000 € is rather mediocre success, we're talking about influencers with only a few followers.


I would do it immediately. Being invited by hotels for free just so you can post something about them once. Dusting off huge sums of money from several companies just to show the product briefly in a video, etc. Getting rich by simply pursuing your hobby and then posting.

And if it's so important to you to have a good education, then as an influencer you can do a degree or something similar because you can manage your own time. So an influencer can do something at any time, whereas someone with "only" a good education can't even become an equally successful influencer.

Of course, there are also many negative examples. The guy you posted, in particular, let himself be ripped off enormously and couldn't handle money. Nevertheless, he made almost 2 million in just a few years with ZERO talent or ability. Instead of drinking the money away and getting ripped off, he would have almost made it now if he had invested it wisely or started his own company or whatever. Can't for the life of me understand what's better about earning 3k a month instead.

i don't know how much a few followers is for you, but you don't get 10k net (just from YouTube) just like that. You can expect 1€ per 1,000 clicks, so even videos that have 500,000 views will fetch 5000€ per video. 500k views is already a lot and larger Youtubers who are scratching the million subscriptions mark can achieve this. 1 million subscriptions is already one of the top Youtubers. Once again, only a small percentage of all Youtubers achieve this. Then, as I said, keep these click figures stable over the years, because the audience gets older or you become uninteresting.


If you post videos twice a week, that's 8 per month. If we assume 100k per video, that's 1k€/video, i.e. 8k gross. Just under half goes to the tax authorities, so on average you get 4k out of it (Christmas will be a bit more, because more is always paid there). Then there are the production costs. You can't live off YouTube alone, which is why most people stream on Twitch.

Depending on how often, you can add the same again, but here you need people who not only watch your streams, but also subscribe, donate and what else. The same with Tik Tok. There's also merch, then you get booked etc. But you have to have a community to get 100k views, it doesn't happen overnight. Before you can live such a lifestyle, you have to "work" for it for years and make do with little money.

If it turns out badly, your videos will be yellow, i.e. you won't get any money for them. It depends on the content.

I don't know if you know how much time and energy it takes to study, but you can't do it on the side. Some people have tried, many have dropped out afterwards. One of the few who did it is ABK. But he's more poor than rich.

A good example is Kelly /MissesVlog. She's from Fürth (I saw her a few times when she wasn't so well known). She went to grammar school and did her A-levels there. Didn't do any studies/training afterwards either. She currently has 100-200k views per video and was very well known. Almost 2 million subscriptions, was also on TV (several times on TV-Total). She had her hype (and probably her peak) in the mid-2010s. She will certainly earn more than someone with a Master of Engineering, but the more time passes, the more difficult it will be for her to gain a foothold in the world of work. What will it look like at 50? Will she be able to make videos that pay that much?

Unge (unplayed) is currently doing it right, is well off and is retiring (also due to a "scandal"). He doesn't care, he lives in Madeira, has invested in real estate and probably lives off capital gains.

Hans may have made 2 million, but that was turnover. You just have to deduct costs. For someone who has no talent, that's a lot, of course. But he's not the only one who's been like that. Many people can't handle money, see a 5-digit figure for the first time in their lives and live like kings. Then the tax office comes knocking and many are surprised. I have no idea how many Youtubers have gone bankrupt


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Falke
Expert

frapi07 wrote on 03.07.2024 at 19:56:

i don't know how much is for you few followers, but net 10k (just from youtube) you don't get just like that. You can expect 1€ per 1,000 clicks, so even videos that have 500,000 views will fetch 5000€ per video. 500k views is already a lot and larger Youtubers who are scratching the million subscriptions mark can achieve this. 1 million subscriptions is already one of the top Youtubers. Once again, only a small percentage of all Youtubers achieve this. Then, as I said, keep these click figures stable over the years, because the audience gets older or you become uninteresting.


If you post videos twice a week, that's 8 per month. If we assume 100k per video, that's 1k€/video, i.e. 8k gross. Just under half goes to the tax authorities, so on average you get 4k out of it (Christmas will be a bit more, because more is always paid there). Then there are the production costs. You can't live off YouTube alone, which is why most people stream on Twitch.

Depending on how often, you can add the same again, but here you need people who not only watch your streams, but also subscribe, donate and what else. The same with Tik Tok. There's also merch, then you get booked etc. But you have to have a community to get 100k views, it doesn't happen overnight. Before you can live such a lifestyle, you have to "work" for it for years and make do with little money.

If it turns out badly, your videos will be yellow, i.e. you won't get any money for them. It depends on the content.

I don't know if you know how much time and energy it takes to study, but you can't do it on the side. Some people have tried, many have dropped out afterwards. One of the few who did it is ABK. But he's more poor than rich.

A good example is Kelly /MissesVlog. She's from Fürth (I saw her a few times when she wasn't so well known). She went to grammar school and did her A-levels there. Didn't do any studies/training afterwards either. She currently has 100-200k views per video and was very well known. Almost 2 million subscriptions, was also on TV (several times on TV-Total). She had her hype (and probably her peak) in the mid-2010s. She will certainly earn more than someone with a Master of Engineering, but the more time passes, the more difficult it will be for her to gain a foothold in the world of work. What will it look like at 50? Will she be able to make videos that pay that much?

Unge (unplayed) is currently doing it right, is well off and is retiring (also due to a "scandal"). He doesn't care, he lives in Madeira, has invested in real estate and probably lives off capital gains.

Hans may have made 2 million, but that was turnover. You just have to deduct costs. For someone who has no talent, that's a lot, of course. But he's not the only one who's been like that. Many people can't handle money, see a 5-digit figure for the first time in their lives and live like kings. Then the tax office comes knocking and many are surprised. I have no idea how many Youtubers have gone bankrupt



Yes, except that you don't make the main money with the number of views, but with advertising deals, apart from YouTube. I know a Youtuber who runs a finance channel with 10,000 followers. I don't know how much she earns now, but even with 2,000 followers she was already making almost 2k a month. Simply because the financial sector pays better and she was able to conclude a cooperation quite quickly. Today she probably earns at least twice that, if not three times as much.


What's more, you already have videos online. This means that the more videos you have, the more clicks you get per month, because your old videos are also clicked on. Of course, it all depends on the topic you're covering. While an opinion blogger only gets a few clicks on old videos, a financial blogger can also benefit from this in the long term.

Then most of them also have Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok or something else where they can also conclude advertising deals.

You just have to have crossed the magic threshold once, but once you've done that, money comes in from every side.

It doesn't matter, it doesn't have to be your thing and a good education is of course desirable. But I don't see what's wrong with being an influencer. You can earn really good money and do things that you enjoy.

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