One has it here probably wrongly understood.The 2€ are meant certainly as 2€ job.This money gets one to his unemployment benefits in addition.So the real wage is much higher, although not very high, but is so.Questionable are such jobs nevertheless.One pays e.g. only the minimum contribution into the pension fund.No one will earn here 2€ per hour, how should one pay then with it anything
Apart from the wage, what earns because so a workshop for the disabled? And if such jobs are questionable, why do you take them at all and carry them out?
Donnie wrote on 12.01.2023 at 13:29 clock: It has probably misunderstood here.The 2 € are certainly meant as a 2 € job.This money you get to his unemployment benefits in addition.So the real wage is much higher, although not very high, but is so.Questionable such jobs are nevertheless.One pays e.g. only the minimum contribution into the pension fund.No one will earn here 2 € per hour, how to pay for it because anything
Apart from the wage, what earns such a workshop for the disabled? And if such jobs are questionable, why do they accept them at all and carry them out?
Why one accepts such jobs? Because one has usually no other possibility! A job center juckt it at the end of the day little whether you have a job whether it makes you fun or brings you further the juckt only their quota to meet you from the list to have and if that does not work the payments in the form of benefits to reduce
I have seen in black and white how the healthy people have been pushed to take such jobs simply to have to pay 150-200 € per month less in benefits if you do not do it there is also less money
My opinion is simply no matter what a person does for a job whether he is disabled or not minimum wage must be in it that is for me at least also an aspect of dignity preserve
I am also of the opinion that there should be at least a reasonable minimum wage from which one can also live to some extent and such 2 € jobs should be offered voluntarily.there is anyway not enough work for all people / is also enough sick people and money is available for all German citizens in this country enough
so the disabled get additional social assistance in the amount of the citizen's allowance. In addition, they get 2 euros per hour in the workshop for the disabled. 200 euros workshop wage, but in addition to that, 80 euros of these 200 euros are credited to the social welfare.
so you have 120 euros more if you go to work, than other people who get social assistance and do not go to work.
There are outside jobs from the DRK, where you really have to work 8 hours, in kindergartens, as an electrical tester, in the retirement home as a nursing assistant, as a laundry service in the retirement home. And that's not recreation!!! but the disabled still get 200 euros a month, even if they do this kind of work. I see that really as a big mistake! even if one gets support! The person needs an incentive, a motivation to go to work?
Sure you get support and you should not become rich, but you should earn more, so that you are no longer so dependent on the support. So get more money from work and less welfare.
himmel80 wrote on 12.01.2023 at 17:05: so the disabled get ja zusätzlich Sozialhilfe in the amount of Bürgergeld. In addition, they get 2 euros hourly wage in the workshop for the disabled. 200 euros workshop wage, in addition, however, that of these 200 euros still 80 euros are credited to the social assistance.
so you have 120 euros more if you go to work, than other people who get social assistance and do not go to work.
There are outside jobs from the DRK, where you really have to work 8 hours, in kindergartens, as an electrical tester, in the retirement home as a nursing assistant, as a laundry service in the retirement home. And that's not recreation!!! but the disabled still get 200 euros a month, even if they do this kind of work. I see that really as a big mistake! even if one gets support! The person needs an incentive, a motivation to go to work?
Sure you get support and you should not become rich, but you should earn more, so that you are no longer so dependent on the support. So get more money from work and less welfare.
Then the 2 euro job would not even be an improvement to the previous 1 euro job, which was introduced in the Agenda 2010. In the 1 euro job you got exactly 120 euros per month and if you now write that in a 2 euro job 80 euros are deducted from the 200 euros, then it could have remained further in the 1 euro job. Ultimately, it is the same amount that remains at the end here as additional income. Such jobs would actually have to be completely abolished, because Germany has a huge demographic problem with the pension. It is urgently necessary that more people pay pension contributions, but who works in a mini-job or 1 or 2 euro job, this whole group falls away from these urgently needed contributors to the pension system.
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Why one accepts such jobs? Because one has usually no other possibility! A job center juckt it at the end of the day little whether you have a job whether it makes you fun or brings you further the juckt only their quota to meet you from the list to have and if that does not work the payments in the form of benefits to reduce
I have seen in black and white how the healthy people have been pushed to take such jobs simply to have to pay 150-200 € per month less in benefits if you do not do it there is also less money
My opinion is simply no matter what a person does for a job whether he is disabled or not minimum wage must be in it that is for me at least also an aspect of dignity preserve
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so you have 120 euros more if you go to work, than other people who get social assistance and do not go to work.
There are outside jobs from the DRK, where you really have to work 8 hours, in kindergartens, as an electrical tester, in the retirement home as a nursing assistant, as a laundry service in the retirement home. And that's not recreation!!! but the disabled still get 200 euros a month, even if they do this kind of work. I see that really as a big mistake! even if one gets support! The person needs an incentive, a motivation to go to work?
Sure you get support and you should not become rich, but you should earn more, so that you are no longer so dependent on the support. So get more money from work and less welfare.
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Then the 2 euro job would not even be an improvement to the previous 1 euro job, which was introduced in the Agenda 2010. In the 1 euro job you got exactly 120 euros per month and if you now write that in a 2 euro job 80 euros are deducted from the 200 euros, then it could have remained further in the 1 euro job. Ultimately, it is the same amount that remains at the end here as additional income. Such jobs would actually have to be completely abolished, because Germany has a huge demographic problem with the pension. It is urgently necessary that more people pay pension contributions, but who works in a mini-job or 1 or 2 euro job, this whole group falls away from these urgently needed contributors to the pension system.
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