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Off topic & small talk: Nagging Corner (Page 217)

Topic created on 24th Apr. 2019 | Page: 217 of 218 | Answers: 2,174 | Views: 291,077
Patizi
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Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 10:33 am CET#2176
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upola wrote on 09.12.2024 at 10:14 am:

Sure it's not legal.

But if they catch anyone, it's those who sell it.
As an end user, you don't need to be so afraid.

Almost. Of course they're after those who sell it, but of course using it is also a punishable offense. I have never uploaded music illegally. They were always after those who uploaded it for illegal downloads. I was caught anyway and had to pay for it. There are many things you can do illegally and the Risk is sometimes higher and sometimes lower, but in the end it's all punishable.


To get back to the point, I was just talking about the legal ways.

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frapi07
Elite

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 11:35 am CET#2177
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upola wrote on 09.12.2024 at 09:18:

But you usually had to pay for that too.


Yes, you had to. But I don't watch soccer with it, I watch it on the Internet. The quality is really good. Streaming is legal for viewers anyway. It's only illegal for those who stream it, i.e. show it on the internet. One of my internet friends is Russian and they have a lot of sites They're generally very well known for torrents etc

Patizi wrote on 09.12.2024 at 09:39:

I'm sure you mean IPTV. If you don't have a criminal record, it just gets expensive if you get caught. With a criminal record it just goes on. Ultimately, we're talking about something illegal. But I mean the legal way. Many people complain but still pay for it and there are a lot of them. The support is there despite so much dissatisfaction. I think you could distribute it even more and make it even more expensive and even then a lot of people would just keep going along with it because they don't want to do without soccer. As a company, you can of course use this to your advantage. And those who don't do it directly via Sky and the like will simply run to the betting providers and leave their money there (often both, of course). Of course there are a lot of sponsors and you can't boycott everything, but if you are totally against it then you should also boycott sports betting. Most people won't stop doing that either. The whole system works really well because everyone still participates in one way or another. And in terms of money, it's far from over.

Sky is a rip-off club just like the others. They lure you in with low subscription prices and then raise the prices when they expire. If you don't pay attention and cancel in time, you'll be caught in the subscription trap. They can't get their hands full enough and take full advantage of it.


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frapi07
Elite

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 11:36 am CET#2178
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Patizi wrote on 09.12.2024 at 10:33 am:

Yeah almost. They are of course after those who distribute it but of course using it is also punishable by law. I've never uploaded music illegally. They were always after those who upload it for illegal downloads. I was caught anyway and had to pay for it. There are many things you can do illegally and the Risk is sometimes higher and sometimes lower, but in the end it's all punishable.


To get back to the point, I was just talking about the legal ways.

But downloading is different from streaming. With IPTV, you are streaming, so to speak xD You don't own the video files on your PC, as with downloading. Streaming is still allowed.

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Stromberg
Legend

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 11:49 am CET#2179
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Interesting topic, I used to watch these streams too, but back then it was still impossible to watch... 😄

But legally, I don't think it's as clear-cut with streaming/downloading as you say?

https://praxistipps.chip.de/bundesliga-bei-livetv-ru-ist-das-legal_9626#:~:text=Bundesliga%20bei%20livetv.ru%20laut%20EU%2DUrteil%20illegal&text=Das%20Streamen%20von%20offensichtlich%20illegalen,Abmahnungen%20wegen%20livetv.ru%20bekannt.

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Patizi
Elite

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 11:49 am CET#2180
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frapi07 wrote on 09.12.2024 at 11:35 am:

Sky is a rip-off club like the others. They lure you in with cheap subscription prices and after expiry the prices are raised. If you're not careful and cancel in time, you'll be caught in the subscription trap. They can't get their hands full enough and take full advantage of it.



It's not about the rating of the companies. It's about people complaining, but you could offer every game from another Provider and it would still be subscribed to by dozens of people so that it continues to be supported. In this case, I'm not interested in how and what the individual companies do and what people think about them.

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Patizi
Elite

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 12:07 pm CET#2181
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Stromberg wrote on 09.12.2024 at 11:49 am: Interesting topic, I used to watch these streams, but it was still unmanageable... 😄

Legally, I don't think it's as clear with streaming/downloading as you say?

https://praxistipps.chip.de/bundesliga-bei-livetv-ru-ist-das-legal_9626#:~:text=Bundesliga%20bei%20livetv.ru%20laut%20EU%2DUrteil%20illegal&text=Das%20Streamen%20von%20offensichtlich%20illegalen,Abmahnungen%20wegen%20livetv.ru%20bekannt.


According to the article, punishable.


Someone who sells drugs is certainly prosecuted differently than someone who buys them. Nevertheless, both are punished. At least that would be news to me if it weren't the case. I think that's also the case here.

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frapi07
Elite

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 12:15 pm CET#2182
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Stromberg wrote on 09.12.2024 at 11:49 am: Interesting topic, I used to watch these streams, but it was still unmanageable... 😄

Legally, I don't think it's as clear with streaming/downloading as you say?

https://praxistipps.chip.de/bundesliga-bei-livetv-ru-ist-das-legal_9626#:~:text=Bundesliga%20bei%20livetv.ru%20laut%20EU%2DUrteil%20illegal&text=Das%20Streamen%20von%20offensichtlich%20illegalen,Abmahnungen%20wegen%20livetv.ru%20bekannt.


Streaming: threat of a warning? - Copyright law 2024

It's explained quite well here.

Patizi wrote on 09.12.2024 at 11:49:

It's not about the rating of the companies. It's about the fact that people complain but you could offer any game from another Provider and it would still be subscribed to by tens of people so that it is always supported. In this case, I'm not interested in how and what the individual companies do and what people think about them.

You will always find people who will pay for it. Look at how many people have bought sunflower oil for €5-6. As long as enough people do it, nothing will ever change with SKY and co. They are getting bolder and bolder, see DAZN. From 9€ (okay that was too cheap) to currently 29 or even 39€ wtf xD

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Malganes
Top Member

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 12:58 pm CET#2183
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Hm, this is supposed to be the bitching corner, but you've been on the topic of pay-TV for quite a while now, or am I seeing it wrong? The whole thing is kind of getting out of hand in this thread. Maybe you should create a new thread about pay-TV? I don't think I'm alone in thinking this, or how do others see it?

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Stromberg
Legend

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 01:02 pm CET#2184
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Malganes wrote on 09.12.2024 at 12:58: Hm, this is actually the bitching corner, but you've been on the subject of pay-TV for quite a while now, or am I seeing it wrong? The whole thing is kind of getting out of hand in this thread. Maybe you should create a new thread about pay-TV? I don't think I'm alone in thinking this, or how do others see it?

I think you only wrote that now because you want to complain in the bitching corner... 🤔

Well, I see the gripe corner like the chat corner, only with a negative touch😄

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Malganes
Top Member

Nagging Corner

9th Dec. 2024, at 01:14 pm CET#2185
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Stromberg wrote on 09.12.2024 at 13:02:
I think you only wrote that now because you want to complain in the bitching corner... 🤔

Wrong, wasn't meant to be a gripe, but a friendly hint

Stromberg wrote on 09.12.2024 at 13:02:
So I see the gripe corner like the chat corner, only with a negative touch😄

So everyone has their own views or perspectives

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