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Off topic & small talk: Nagging Corner (Page 213)

Topic created on 24th Apr. 2019 | Page: 213 of 222 | Answers: 2,218 | Views: 305,470
Falke
Expert

Nagging Corner

22nd Nov. 2024, at 10:05 pm CET#2136
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I experienced something really strange again today.

I registered with a brand new casino because they sent me an email and I already knew the matrix, i.e. the structure of the website, from other casinos and therefore thought it was reputable.

So, I carefully deposited €30. It went well straight away and I limited myself almost exclusively to Pragmatic Play games, in turbo mode to 20 cents. I then had around 150 in my account within about 20 minutes. The free spins came in about 8 times, as can happen with the Bass games when they're going well. I only needed about 300 spins for this.

Then I changed the game and none of the games worked - error message. So I went to the Live Chat and they said that they were having a small problem, but that it would only take 1 or 2 minutes to fix it.

That was the case. Once the slots were working again, I played a total of 7 different Pragmatic Play games and didn't receive a single free spins round for the entire €150. Not a single one. As I play in turbo mode, the money was gone to 20 cents in about 15 minutes.

Then I deposited another 50 and the same thing: again, on 20 cents, not a single free spin. The 50 were gone in 5 minutes.

Yes, you can already guess. I think they've changed the system somehow. From pretty well running slots to completely dead slots. Now many can say "coincidence" or something similar, but I don't think so. I know the Pragmatic Slots and I think it's almost impossible that with a 20 cent bet and €200 credit, not a single free spin will be awarded.

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MisterL
Expert

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 12:47 am CET#2137
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as an experienced player, you notice this particularly early on

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Fatally
Amateur

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 02:57 pm CET#2138
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Falke wrote on 22.11.2024 at 22:05: I experienced something really strange again today.

I registered with a brand new casino because they sent me an email and I already knew the matrix, i.e. the structure of the website, from other casinos and therefore classified it as reputable.

So, I carefully deposited €30. It went well straight away and I had limited myself almost exclusively to Pragmatic Play games, in turbo mode to 20 cents. I then had around 150 in my account within about 20 minutes. The free spins came in about 8 times, as can happen with the Bass games when they're going well. I only needed about 300 spins for this.

Then I changed the game and none of the games worked - error message. So I went to the Live Chat and they said that they were having a small problem, but that it would only take 1 or 2 minutes to fix it.

That was the case. Once the slots were working again, I played a total of 7 different Pragmatic Play games and didn't receive a single free spins round for the entire €150. Not a single one. As I play in turbo mode, the money was gone to 20 cents in about 15 minutes.

Then I deposited another 50 and the same thing: again, on 20 cents, not a single free spin. The 50 were gone in 5 minutes.

Yes, you can already guess. I think they've changed the system somehow. From pretty well running slots to completely dead slots. Now many can say "coincidence" or something similar, but I don't think so. I know the Pragmatic Slots and I think it's almost impossible that with a 20 cent bet and €200 credit, not a single free spin will be awarded


But you were too greedy, weren't you?

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Pat1991
Top Member

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 04:08 pm CET#2139
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Falke wrote on 22.11.2024 at 22:05: I experienced something really strange again today.

I registered with a brand new casino because they sent me an email and I already knew the matrix, i.e. the structure of the website, from other casinos and therefore classified it as reputable.

So, I carefully deposited €30. It went well straight away and I had limited myself almost exclusively to Pragmatic Play games, in turbo mode to 20 cents. I then had around 150 in my account within about 20 minutes. The free spins came in about 8 times, as can happen with the Bass games when they're going well. I only needed about 300 spins for this.

Then I changed the game and none of the games worked - error message. So I went to the Live Chat and they said that they were having a small problem, but that it would only take 1 or 2 minutes to fix it.

That was the case. Once the slots were working again, I played a total of 7 different Pragmatic Play games and didn't receive a single free spins round for the entire €150. Not a single one. Since I play in turbo mode, the money was gone to 20 cents in about 15 minutes.

Then I deposited another 50 and the same thing: again, on 20 cents, not a single free spin. The 50 were gone in 5 minutes.

Yes, you can already guess. I think they've changed the system somehow. From pretty well running slots to completely dead slots. Now many can say "coincidence" or something similar, but I don't think so. I know the Pragmatic Slots and I think it's almost impossible that with a 20 cent bet and a €200 balance, not a single free spin is awarded.

Unusual indeed, but not impossible. That's about 1000 spins (without interim winnings), normally it's about 100 spins per free spin trigger.

But if there can be 3x free spins within 10 spins, why not the other extreme?

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frapi07
Elite

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 04:17 pm CET#2140
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Pat1991 wrote on 23.11.2024 at 16:08:
Unusual indeed, but not impossible either. That's about 1000 spins (without intermediate wins), normally it's about 100 spins per free spin trigger.

But if there can be 3x free spins within 10 spins, why not the other extreme?

Speaking of extremes, here's my experience: I have received 0x or 3x (when the game pays the scatter) several times (easily 5 times) with Pragmatic, but never the other extreme, i.e. a max. win. I don't want to say that you can never lose, but 0x / 3x in a bonus should be just as rare as the max. win. In my experience, however, this is not the case.

But this is not only the case online. Even offline, many slots (Eyes Of Horus) have a 0x, better known as "Feature Finished"

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Stromberg
Legend

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 06:30 pm CET#2141
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frapi07 wrote on 23.11.2024 at 16:17:

Speaking of extremes, here's my experience on this: I've gotten 0x or 3x (when the game pays the scatter) on Pragmatic several times (easily 5 times), but never the other extreme, i.e. a max win. I don't want to say that you can never lose, but 0x / 3x in a bonus should be just as rare as the max. win. In my experience, however, this is not the case.

But this is not only the case online. Even offline, many slots (Eyes Of Horus) have a 0x, better known as "Feature Finished"

But we are also talking about completely different probabilities. Maxwin in the 1 in tens of millions range.

0x, where it is possible, probably more in the 1 in 100 to 1000 range or so (only estimated, unlike maxwin there is no information on this)

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Patizi
Elite

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 08:26 pm CET#2142
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Well, it's not a new topic when it comes to slots. Frapi actually gave a good example. However, if you are extremely convinced of the Manipulation and it bothers you, then you should consider what is really strange. Is it really strange if the slots give such different results, or not? Or is it really strange that you still put your money into it? I would say the latter!

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Pat1991
Top Member

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 08:32 pm CET#2143
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frapi07 wrote on 23.11.2024 at 16:17:

Speaking of extremes, here's my experience on this: I've gotten 0x or 3x (when the game pays the scatter) on Pragmatic several times (easily 5 times), but never the other extreme, i.e. a max win. I don't want to say that you can never lose, but 0x / 3x in a bonus should be just as rare as the max. win. In my experience, however, this is not the case.

But this is not only the case online. Even offline, many slots (Eyes Of Horus) have a 0x, better known as "Feature Finished"

I've also had this several times with Sweet Bonanza. I've never had a Max. I've never had a max. win either, but I've often had around 500x-800x (like the other day in the middle of No Deposit *grumble*). Most of the time it's around 50x-100x, although the 1000x variants feel like they drop significantly more often.

Normal, they have to refinance the super profits somehow...

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Falke
Expert

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 08:36 pm CET#2144
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Patizi wrote on 23.11.2024 at 20:26: Well, not a new topic when it comes to slots. Frapi actually gave a good example. However, if you are very extremely convinced of the Manipulation and it bothers you, then you should consider what is really strange. Is it really strange if the slots give such different results, or not? Or is it really strange that you still put your money into it? I would say the latter!

What was particularly strange was that it was directly after the error message and after the casino had "fixed" the problem. That was too obvious for me.

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Falke
Expert

Nagging Corner

23rd Nov. 2024, at 08:40 pm CET#2145
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Pat1991 wrote on 23.11.2024 at 16:08:
Unusual indeed, but not impossible either. That's about 1000 spins (without intermediate wins), normally it's about 100 spins per free spin trigger.

But if there can be 3x free spins within 10 spins, why not the other extreme?

Because this is very unusual, especially with the Big Bass games. It very rarely takes 200 spins to get the free spins, but never more than 1,000 spins and this is split over several games.


Normally you even get free spins in the Bass games, even if they are going badly. There are hardly any interim winnings in these games anyway. Then you just get 2 free spins in 100 spins, which have paid a total of 8 euros, and at the end of the 100 spins you are still far in the red.

However, the fact that nothing happens over 1,000 spins (I think it will have been around 1,200 spins) is very unusual. And the fact that it happened directly after the error message and the casino changeover makes the whole thing even fishier.

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