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Off topic & small talk: Nagging Corner (Page 191)

Topic created on 24th Apr. 2019 | Page: 191 of 212 | Answers: 2,119 | Views: 279,874
Donnie
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gamble1 wrote on July 31st, 2024 at 4:47 pm:

On top of that, it's just ridiculous to make a customer wait so long for a measly €17 doesn't speak well for the store

Most of us here on this forum are not just for no deps or that you can win any coins. Above all, we are here to criticize, to question, to uncover grievances, to protect each other from black sheep. Wunderino does not come off well in this number with Frapi. The right thing to do would be to pay out the balance and then block him if they really want to do that


A small case of mine regarding good customer service. I recently deposited money at Bet at Home for sports betting, but the money ended up in the slots area. I'm sure I did everything right, but maybe I missed something, whatever. Contacted support and I was allowed to withdraw my deposited money without any turnover. Came straight away and then deposited again in the sports betting area. That's what you call customer service and customer friendliness

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frapi07
Elite
Donnie wrote on July 31st, 2024 at 6:23 pm:

Most of us here in this forum are not just here for No Deps or that you can win any coins. Above all, we are here to criticize, to question, to uncover grievances, to protect each other from black sheep. Wunderino does not come off well in this number with Frapi. The right thing to do would be to pay out the balance and then block him if they really want to do that


A small case of me when it comes to good customer service. I recently deposited money at Bet at Home for sports betting, but the money ended up in the slots area. I'm sure I did everything right, but maybe I missed something, whatever. Contacted support and I was allowed to withdraw my deposited money without any turnover. Came straight away and then deposited again in the sports betting area. That's what you call customer service and customer friendliness

Yes, you're mostly right. You share your experience and reading about how a licensed shop behaves towards a customer may also be a warning for some people. For me, it was never about the €17, because I don't currently have any money problems, quite the opposite: I'm doing well financially. My point is that I won't let a penny into these shops. I can't in good conscience play (and finance) a casino that offers slots with an 84.45% RTP. Besides, I'm entitled to my rights, I had access to the promotion, so I'm using it.

I could understand if I only dusted off the no Deposit from the epic tuesdays and then "saved up" the win until the minimum payout (€10), so to speak. But I have not done this. If I won €2 from this, for example, I kept playing and tried to get to €10. The €16.60 resulted from an Epic Tuesday.

Yes, your experience with bet@home is positive and that keeps customers loyal. The one employee who told me "more" even apologized that she wasn't allowed to tell me anything more about it. I then wrote to her saying that I understood, that she was just doing her job and that I wasn't angry with her. The criticism only goes out to Wunderino, the support staff can't be held responsible for things like duration, Verification and communication. The fact that they can't tell me anything concrete about it is an internal decision that they have to follow.


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gamble1
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Pragmatic is the last Wi*****club 70 free spins in various games none of them have paid their shitty value !

And the biggest joke is this stupid double chance or these more anglers in the Big Bass Games age of 10 free spins with more anglers I had in all 1-2 in which universe do these morons from Pragmatic actually live where something like that is the meaning of "MORE" because without this shit there are more anglers in every free spin everything is bullshit

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frapi07
Elite
gamble1 wrote on 01.08.2024 at 04:49: Pragmatic is the last Wi*****Verein 70 free spins in various games not a single one have paid their shitty value !

And the biggest joke is this stupid double chance or these more anglers in the Big Bass Games age of 10 free spins with more anglers I had in all 1-2 in which universe do these morons from Pragmatic actually live where something like that is the meaning of "MORE" because without this shit there are more anglers in every free spin everything is bullshit

You should know yourself that the FS are scripted. Even with Big Bass. It doesn't matter what you get, whether it's the boot or everything, you can win with any set up from 10x to max win. These "extras" usually bring nothing. Only at "level 2" do you know that you can already expect wins of x2. All other "extras", whether more fish, anglers or spins, are meaningless and are intended to provide more excitement.

But it's awesome that with 70 Bonuses you didn't have a single one that paid 100x or more. My experience so far is that out of 10 bonuses I get 1 >150x and 2-3 at 80-100x and the rest <50x. I can't say whether Pragamtic is the worst, because there are volatile slot providers (Hacksaw, No Limit) where you like to get 0x or 1-3x bonuses. Wanted dead or a Wild is son slot where you can buy 10 bonuses and 8-9 of them can pay <10x.

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gamble1
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frapi07 wrote on 01.08.2024 at 05:27:
You should know yourself that the FS are scripted. Even with Big Bass. It doesn't matter what you get, whether it's the boot right away or everything, you can win with any set up from 10x to max win. These "extras" usually bring nothing. Only at "level 2" do you know that you can already expect wins of x2. All other "extras", whether more fish, anglers or spins, are meaningless and are intended to provide more excitement.

But it's awesome that with 70 Bonuses you didn't have a single one that paid 100x or more. My experience so far is that out of 10 bonuses I get 1 >150x and 2-3 at 80-100x and the rest <50x. I can't say whether Pragamtic is the worst, because there are volatile slot providers (Hacksaw, No Limit) where you like to get 0x or 1-3x bonuses. Wanted dead or a Wild is son slot where you can buy 10 bonuses and 8-9 of them can pay <10x.

Of course you already know the usual madness somehow but lately it's really extreme you really get absolutely nothing it rains free spins without end and they just pay nothing quite the opposite


30 bonuses pay 1/3 of the value the others pay significantly less I had exactly 5 of them that left me 10 € under value and the most annoying thing for me is when they start paying you according to the system, e.g. it always starts to get 1/3 of the value it happens in all Pragmatic games that you play bit by bit you already know when it triggers what you have 99% of the time at the end

And so the fun goes on for the last 4 weeks, the 70 free spins are now awesome from the last 3 days to get the same results over and over again

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frapi07
Elite

gamble1 wrote on 01.08.2024 05:41:

Of course you already know the usual madness somehow but lately it's really extreme you really get absolutely nothing it rains free spins without end and they just pay nothing quite the opposite


30 Bonuses pay 1/3 of the value the others well below I had exactly 5 pieces that left me 10 € under value and the most annoying thing for me is simply when they start paying you out according to the system, e.g. it always starts to get 1/3 of the value it happens in all Pragmatic games that you play bit by bit you know almost already when it triggers what you have 99% at the end

And so the fun goes on for the last 4 weeks, the 70 free spins are now awesome from the last 3 days to get the same results over and over again

Yes, I know how you feel. I once had bonuses on Platin 3 times in a row that spit out x10. I always bought €200 bonuses and got €20 or less. I felt like I was being taken for a ride and always paid extra xD

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T0uchTheSky
Elite
Played Rise of Olympus 100 on 20 cents for several hours at a Tournament today. I felt I had the bonus at least more than 50 times. Only 1 time I think I had over 350x, all the others were only 20 to 50x, in the end several hundred euros less...

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gamble1
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 02.08.2024 at 00:04: Today at a Tournament I only played Rise of Olympus 100 on 20 cents for several hours. Bonus I felt I had at least more than 50 times. Only 1 time I think I had over 350x, all others were only 20 to 50x, in the end several hundred euros less...


You can't be overlooked haha you're currently at 240 right ? No kidding, I would have known that I've been playing the game all day but wasn't registered for the tournament haha

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Falke
Expert

gamble1 wrote on 01.08.2024 at 04:49: Pragmatic is the last Wi*****Verein 70 free spins in various games not a single one have paid their shitty value !

And the biggest joke is this stupid double chance or these more anglers in the Big Bass Games age of 10 free spins with more anglers I had in all 1-2 in which universe do these morons from Pragmatic actually live where something like that is the meaning of "MORE" because without this shit in every free spin more anglers come everything is bullshit

I've already criticized that here. Pragmatic thinks the players are stupid. The features are completely meaningless.


I've often had all the features on Big Bass Splash and collected a x2 win for them. I once uncovered 8 features in Big Bass Amazon with 3 Scatters, which hardly ever happens. The result was a x5 win. How can you program slots so stupidly that features have no influence at all? What would be so difficult about the fact that higher wins are displayed with more features and lower wins with fewer features? Not always, of course, but on average it should actually follow these rules.

With Pragmatic, however, the features have zero influence on the following result. So why integrate these stupid features at all?

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gamble1
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Falke wrote on 02.08.2024 at 17:17:

I've criticized that here before. Pragmatic thinks the players are stupid. The features are completely meaningless.


I've often had all the features on Big Bass Splash and collected a x2 win for them. I once uncovered 8 features in Big Bass Amazon with 3 Scatters, which hardly ever happens. The result was a x5 win. How can you program slots so stupidly that features have no influence at all? What would be so difficult about the fact that higher wins are displayed with more features and lower wins with fewer features? Not always, of course, but on average it should actually follow these rules.

With Pragmatic, however, the features have zero influence on the following result. So why do you integrate these stupid features at all?

Quite simply because you think people are totally stupid and everyone celebrates this crap


Then they should make the stupid chance of getting the features smaller and at least give some meaning to the crap, but what's the point of a "bonus" in the bonus that runs like the biggest joke 20 times?

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